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Tennis...Anyone?

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Glad to see Fed win another one, crazy to think how good he still is at age 35. I wonder how many people that age or older have won one on the men's side, at least during the more modern era of tennis.

I feel like the age gap between Nadal and Fed isn't as pronounced as it used to be, Fed's body has held up better and I think part of it is due to the differences in style of play.
 
trixR4kids said:
Glad to see Fed win another one, crazy to think how good he still is at age 35. I wonder how many people that age or older have won one on the men's side, at least during the more modern era of tennis.

I feel like the age gap between Nadal and Fed isn't as pronounced as it used to be, Fed's body has held up better and I think part of it is due to the differences in style of play.
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Sampras won his last grand slam when he had just turned 31. Thinking back to those days he seemed ancient. After he retired there was hardly anyone in their 30's in the top 100 for a while. It seems like there was a golden generation of players born in the 80's. Even guys like Hewitt and Roddick were a lot better than they get credit for.
 
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Drew S. said:
Sampras won his last grand slam when he had just turned 31. Thinking back to those days he seemed ancient. After he retired there was hardly anyone in their 30's in the top 100 for a while. It seems like there was a golden generation of players born in the 80's. Even guys like Hewitt and Roddick were a lot better than they get credit for.
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Roddick is the only player I can think of who only lost 1 service game in an entire match, broke his opponent's serve twice, yet lost a 5-set match. It was that amazing 5–7, 7–6(8–6), 7–6(7–5), 3–6, 16–14 2009 Wimbledon final.
 
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Drew S. said:
I guess a lot of it depends on the draw. I would think there is a decent chance at least one of them is in the final of Wimbledon and French Open. I actually would be very surprised if at least one isn't in the final at Roland Garros. They could both have a nice run next couple of years.
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Nadal is going to need someone else to take out the Joker at the French Open IMHO. I think Djokovic has a bunch more titles in him but he's like....8 (?) behind. That's a lot to make up especially since he'll be hitting 30 himself shortly.
 
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Rover said:
Nadal is going to need someone else to take out the Joker at the French Open IMHO. I think Djokovic has a bunch more titles in him but he's like....8 (?) behind. That's a lot to make up especially since he'll be hitting 30 himself shortly.
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I believe Joker has either 12 or 13 which would put him five or six behind. I don't think him and Murray will age well with their style. Once you get to 30 its hard to grind out results with your groundies. Fed has always had a really strong service game which has and will continue to serve him well. Nadal doesn't have the biggest serve around but where it is coming from the opposite side makes it tough for opponents.
 
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FreshFish said:
Roddick is the only player I can think of who only lost 1 service game in an entire match, broke his opponent's serve twice, yet lost a 5-set match. It was that amazing 5–7, 7–6(8–6), 7–6(7–5), 3–6, 16–14 2009 Wimbledon final.
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I'm sure Isman and Dr. Ivo have done it to some guys, but I can't cite the specific matches.
 
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Drew S. said:
I believe Joker has either 12 or 13 which would put him five or six behind. I don't think him and Murray will age well with their style. Once you get to 30 its hard to grind out results with your groundies. Fed has always had a really strong service game which has and will continue to serve him well. Nadal doesn't have the biggest serve around but where it is coming from the opposite side makes it tough for opponents.
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He has 12 according to this http://www.totalsportek.com/tennis/grand-slam-titles-winners-mens-women/
 
Drew S. said:
I believe Joker has either 12 or 13 which would put him five or six behind. I don't think him and Murray will age well with their style. Once you get to 30 its hard to grind out results with your groundies. Fed has always had a really strong service game which has and will continue to serve him well. Nadal doesn't have the biggest serve around but where it is coming from the opposite side makes it tough for opponents.
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Hey, I agree with you on something! And I hope you're right- don't want either of these guys to pass Fed
 
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Could live with Djokovic getting the all time lead. Felt Nadal's titles were too French Open centered but I suppose that happens with a lot of players.
 
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trixR4kids said:
I feel like the age gap between Nadal and Fed isn't as pronounced as it used to be, Fed's body has held up better and I think part of it is due to the differences in style of play.
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My tennis coach used to say Nadal is what you'd get if you took a phenomenal natural talent and set out to design a style to destroy his body.
 
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Kepler said:
My tennis coach used to say Nadal is what you'd get if you took a phenomenal natural talent and set out to design a style to destroy his body.
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Yeah I was gonna write something up about it yesterday but never submitted. I think the biggest difference between the two is that Fed plays efficiently and tries to hit winners more frequently even if that means more errors as well (both forced and unforced). Nadal just focused on prolonging every single point and didn't hit nearly as many winners (at least against Fed) in every match I remember watching. IDK if there are stats on this out there but I always remember it ending up that way.

The other thing is that it always seemed like Fed moves more efficiently or has better footwork rather than relying on effort as much. That's kind of a subjective thing but that's always how it seemed to me anyhow.
 
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I remember Roddick's finals attempts vs. Federer and noted each time how Andy put so much, "oomph" into every shot while Roger was always cool as a cucumber. I thought at the time a person can't expend that much energy on every shot and expect to last.
 
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trixR4kids said:
Yeah I was gonna write something up about it yesterday but never submitted. I think the biggest difference between the two is that Fed plays efficiently and tries to hit winners more frequently even if that means more errors as well (both forced and unforced). Nadal just focused on prolonging every single point and didn't hit nearly as many winners (at least against Fed) in every match I remember watching. IDK if there are stats on this out there but I always remember it ending up that way.

The other thing is that it always seemed like Fed moves more efficiently or has better footwork rather than relying on effort as much. That's kind of a subjective thing but that's always how it seemed to me anyhow.
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Sounds accurate to me. Love Nadal. Never liked Roger very much. Loved Agassi, never liked Sampras very much. It's almost like I always in Tennis pick the horse that ends up in second in the rivalry over their timespan.
 
ScoobyDoo said:
Sounds accurate to me. Love Nadal. Never liked Roger very much. Loved Agassi, never liked Sampras very much. It's almost like I always in Tennis pick the horse that ends up in second in the rivalry over their timespan.
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I'm the opposite. Love the classical style of Sampras and roger, hate the power game of nadal. Oh, also hate the grunting. Shut UP Rafa
 
ScoobyDoo said:
Never bothered me. Loved Monica Seles, hated Steffi Graff. I hope the guy that stabbed her rots in hell for eternity.
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I loved Monica too. Her grunting was annoying but not as much as Rafa.
As a kid I used the two handed forehand to copy Monica.
 
ScoobyDoo said:
Sounds accurate to me. Love Nadal. Never liked Roger very much. Loved Agassi, never liked Sampras very much. It's almost like I always in Tennis pick the horse that ends up in second in the rivalry over their timespan.
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Well Nadal still holds that head to head record I'm pretty sure, at least in grand slams. But guessing Fed has narrowed the gap a bit in recent years.

I haven't followed tennis super closely now that I don't play it anymore so I could be wrong about all of this :D
 
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