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Tennis...Anyone?
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Kepler
Cornell Big Red
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Here it's flat. Though I've noticed that 90% of the kids who are playing are Indian (dot, not feather) so maybe we're sitting on top of a demographic renaissance when whitey dies off.
Here it's flat. Though I've noticed that 90% of the kids who are playing are Indian (dot, not feather) so maybe we're sitting on top of a demographic renaissance when whitey dies off.
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That's good in your area its not down. It seems to me in New England it has been dropping like 2% or so a year. You don't notice it much year to year but over time can tell its down a ways. I'm sure the game is in a great way financially but the USTA should do more to encourage participation.
That's good in your area its not down. It seems to me in New England it has been dropping like 2% or so a year. You don't notice it much year to year but over time can tell its down a ways. I'm sure the game is in a great way financially but the USTA should do more to encourage participation.
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
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In all honesty you may just be seeing the erosion of the middle class. Where and when I grew up (70s, John McEnroe's backyard) tennis was ubiquitous. It was weird not to play. But that implies certain costs (equipment, lessons) and other resources (mostly time) that many families just no longer have. Tennis is tracking like other high entry cost leisure activities (skiing, sailing): from pursuits of the rich they had a brief run of mass popularity before Reaganomics plowed us all back under and they've been retreating back again to the province of the rich.
In all honesty you may just be seeing the erosion of the middle class. Where and when I grew up (70s, John McEnroe's backyard) tennis was ubiquitous. It was weird not to play. But that implies certain costs (equipment, lessons) and other resources (mostly time) that many families just no longer have. Tennis is tracking like other high entry cost leisure activities (skiing, sailing): from pursuits of the rich they had a brief run of mass popularity before Reaganomics plowed us all back under and they've been retreating back again to the province of the rich.
That could be part of the reason, but I think tennis is much cheaper/easier than skiing or sailing(not that I've ever sailed.) Around here there are tons of nice public courts and you certainly can buy a really good racket for under a hundred dollars. Its a very interesting theory you have though. Maybe along with economic changes their mentality has changed as well?
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
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It is true there are free courts and a bad racket is very cheap. Lessons are expensive, though. Maybe I should have said tennis is expensive to play well, as I am learning every week.
It is true there are free courts and a bad racket is very cheap. Lessons are expensive, though. Maybe I should have said tennis is expensive to play well, as I am learning every week.
It is true there are free courts and a bad racket is very cheap. Lessons are expensive, though. Maybe I should have said tennis is expensive to play well, as I am learning every week.
I'll help you and save you some money! If you want to get better you really need to put a lot of time into improving your footwork. That will help your game much more than any lesson will.
You are right though, to really play proper tennis it does take some money.
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
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I'm pretty sure not being a fat f-ck would help my game more than anything.
They are of a piece.
I'm pretty sure not being a fat f-ck would help my game more than anything.
They are of a piece.
Slap Shot
I got nothing
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I miss playing tennis competitively. i started playing at a very early age (both parents were very into the game) including club, state and regional competitions. I even took David Wheaton (we went to HS together) to 3 sets once. His name may not the that recognizable but he won the 1990 US Clay Courts, was a doubles runner-up with Annacone at the 1990 US Open, won the 1991 Grand Slam Cup against Michael Chang and reached the semis of Wimbledon beating Lendl and Agassi before bowing out to Becker.
Played serve and volley and loved my backhand. I could run all day but I was notorious for blowing leads and psyching myself out for whatever reason.
My wife also played in HS in Thailand and our first date in Bahrain was a tennis match. We just recently took it up again for the first time in probably 15 years and we bought racquets for the kids in hopes they will come to love it as much as we have. It's a wonderful game of endurance and skill but I love the strategy as much as anything.
I miss playing tennis competitively. i started playing at a very early age (both parents were very into the game) including club, state and regional competitions. I even took David Wheaton (we went to HS together) to 3 sets once. His name may not the that recognizable but he won the 1990 US Clay Courts, was a doubles runner-up with Annacone at the 1990 US Open, won the 1991 Grand Slam Cup against Michael Chang and reached the semis of Wimbledon beating Lendl and Agassi before bowing out to Becker.
Played serve and volley and loved my backhand. I could run all day but I was notorious for blowing leads and psyching myself out for whatever reason.
My wife also played in HS in Thailand and our first date in Bahrain was a tennis match. We just recently took it up again for the first time in probably 15 years and we bought racquets for the kids in hopes they will come to love it as much as we have. It's a wonderful game of endurance and skill but I love the strategy as much as anything.
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
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You won a set from a guy who beat Lendl and Agassi?! Holy sheet! Son, I am impress.
You won a set from a guy who beat Lendl and Agassi?! Holy sheet! Son, I am impress.
This wasn't looking very good 24 hours ago but now Nadal is gone, Murray is struggling with a hip problem, and Djoker has a shoulder problem. It's amazing how quickly things can change. It looks to me like Fed is going to have to beat Dimitrov(which he did yesterday), Raonic, and Cilic to win the tournwment which would be pretty symbolic of what has happened to tennis in the last five years.
That's a pretty crazy stat. I guess time goes by quicker as you get older, but I had no idea it had been that long for her. To be honest, it's not really a very good reflection on where the women's game is at right now.
I'm sure this has been mentioned by various pundits, but I just realized no one born in the 90's has won a men's grand slam title yet. It really is remarkable just how dominant the big four have been. I think even those of us who love the game take it for granted to a large degree.
Fighting Sioux 23
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It really is impressive, particularly given her age (37). However, it should be noted that it has been that long for her to win a Singles championship (she has won a half-dozen or so Doubles majors since her last Singles major). Also, it shouldn't be too surprising, as Venus advanced to the Final in the Australian Open this year and was a Semifinalist at Wimbledon last year, so obviously she is playing pretty good tennis of late. I hope she can finish it off.
It really is impressive, particularly given her age (37). However, it should be noted that it has been that long for her to win a Singles championship (she has won a half-dozen or so Doubles majors since her last Singles major). Also, it shouldn't be too surprising, as Venus advanced to the Final in the Australian Open this year and was a Semifinalist at Wimbledon last year, so obviously she is playing pretty good tennis of late. I hope she can finish it off.
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
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though Cilic was "only" 25 when he won the US Open in 2014....
EDIT: and Del Potro was 20 when he won the US Open in 2009. Someone born in 1991 would be 26 this year... though I agree on the dominance. Except for those two and Wawrinka's three Majors, wow!
Going back to the start of 2004: 54 Majors. Big 4 are 47 - 7 over that time span.
Also, regarding Venus, if it were not for losses to Serena, she'd probably have several more major titles and a shorter gap between Wimbledon singles titles....Venus is 5-3 in Wimbledon finals alone, all three losses to Serena.
though Cilic was "only" 25 when he won the US Open in 2014....
EDIT: and Del Potro was 20 when he won the US Open in 2009. Someone born in 1991 would be 26 this year... though I agree on the dominance. Except for those two and Wawrinka's three Majors, wow!
Going back to the start of 2004: 54 Majors. Big 4 are 47 - 7 over that time span.
Also, regarding Venus, if it were not for losses to Serena, she'd probably have several more major titles and a shorter gap between Wimbledon singles titles....Venus is 5-3 in Wimbledon finals alone, all three losses to Serena.
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American Sam Querrey takes down Andy Murray in five sets, first American to reach semi-finals at Wimbledon since Andy Roddick in 2009.
Roddick made Wimbledon finals three times. That 2009 finals match was a classic: Roddick only lost one service game the entire match!! while he broke Federer's serve twice. Yet Federer won, 5-7, 7-6, 7-6, 3-6, 16-14.
American Sam Querrey takes down Andy Murray in five sets, first American to reach semi-finals at Wimbledon since Andy Roddick in 2009.
Roddick made Wimbledon finals three times. That 2009 finals match was a classic: Roddick only lost one service game the entire match!! while he broke Federer's serve twice. Yet Federer won, 5-7, 7-6, 7-6, 3-6, 16-14.
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...while Federer wins in straight sets.
Semi-finals on Friday:
# 7 seed Cilic v # 24 seed Querrey
# 3 seed Federer v # 11 seed Berdych
Berdych beat Federer at Wimbledon in 2010 quarterfinals; Federer beat Berdych at the Australian Open last year and this year.
Cilic beat Federer in the US Open [semi-] Final in straight sets in 2014; Federer beat Cilic in Wimbledon quarterfinals last year in five sets.
...while Federer wins in straight sets.
Semi-finals on Friday:
# 7 seed Cilic v # 24 seed Querrey
# 3 seed Federer v # 11 seed Berdych
Berdych beat Federer at Wimbledon in 2010 quarterfinals; Federer beat Berdych at the Australian Open last year and this year.
Cilic beat Federer in the US Open [semi-] Final in straight sets in 2014; Federer beat Cilic in Wimbledon quarterfinals last year in five sets.
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