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Sweet Valentine! The saga of the 2012 Boston Red Sox

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Red Sox win three in a row over a divisional foe heading into Marathon Monday, but the big news is Valentine calling out Youkilis and then not having him in the lineup today. In case you were afraid there wasn't enough drama on this team...
 
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If the message was important, fine. There's a lot of season left.

But it's tough to lose 1-0 with one of your better bats on the bench.
 
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Priceless said:
Red Sox win three in a row over a divisional foe heading into Marathon Monday, but the big news is Valentine calling out Youkilis and then not having him in the lineup today. In case you were afraid there wasn't enough drama on this team...
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I like Valentine's moves so far. He should be calling out Youk is he's batting .200 with no HR's. Yes he should have spoken to him beforehand but othewise what's the problem? Sox players are far too used to being babied.

Regarding Bard, let him learn how to get himself out of jams. If 37 year old Chris Carpenter could do it several times on the way to a WS championship last year, then a decade younger Bard needs to figure out how to do the same. Early in the season is a far better time for him to get this experience. The fans can S T F U.
 
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Rover said:
I like Valentine's moves so far. He should be calling out Youk is he's batting .200 with no HR's. Yes he should have spoken to him beforehand but othewise what's the problem? Sox players are far too used to being babied.
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At the media conference before the game yesterday, Bobby V disavowed everything he had said about Youk and implied that the reporter had taken a shot at Youkilis and Bobby was coming to his defense. If you listen to the question and then Valentine's answer, there is absolutely no way you can conclude A) the reporter was taking any shot at Youkilis or B) that anything Valentine said was a defense of Youkilis. It was a generic question and Valentine took three or four shots at him. If he wants to call out his players, so be it, but don't call them out one day and then backtrack the next. Either do it or don't do it. This is the third or fourth time Bobby V has done this and it's already getting old.

As far as your thoughts on Bard, Carpenter has been a starter for how long? This was Bard's second major league start. Anyone could have told you that Bard at 107 pitches, bases loaded and Longoria at bat would be trouble. As soon as I realized Bobby V was going to leave him in I stopped watching. It was a given what was about to happen. At least it was only a walk so TB only scored one run but that's all it took to win.
 
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I think the better argument with Bard is that the guy was a closer up until a few months ago, why is he throwing that many pitches in April? Is there some April pennant that I'm not aware of? The pen had been doing its job this week, I think it was a bad move to have Bard throw that much regardless of score or outcome.

Wouldn't you think they have him on an innings trajectory to manage his year? Why go to this extreme so early in the year?

Don't disagree with the babying comment, when your team does what it does last year, no player should be whining about some commentary...should Valentine have done that so early into the year?...maybe not, but if it motivates Youk to get his head and body into gear then I leave that to Valentine.
 
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Well that was not a nice game to watch in person.

In the space of about 10 minutes (or less), Mark Melancon's ERA went from 22.50 to 49.50.
Youk can't hit the barn side of a broad.
Of the 21 runs scored in the game, I believe just 5 (2 in the 2nd and 3 in the 3rd) did not come via the home run ball.

The good news is that I spent the last 2.5 innings in the Red Loge Box seats where there is fanny and leg room.

One more note hockey fans -- the Rangers stayed standing until the colors left the field after the National Anthem. Wish the Sox did that.
 
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New promotion from the Red Sox twitter. They normally do a "Tweet your Seat" and give away a T-shirt or some other memorabilia. Starting tomorrow, Tweet your Seat and you may have a chance to pitch an inning of relief!

Sweet Caroline is very appropriate tonight...

Oh, and don't forget to buy a brick.
 
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Well, thank goodness there's hockey to watch. The bullpen is comically bad.:rolleyes:
 
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Priceless said:
Oh, and don't forget to buy a brick.
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Old timers know what to do with a brick..

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One more thought -- as repeat offenders, can the bullpen get 25 games?
 
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This is a really bad day for Boston sports fans. Someone want to check and make sure Tom Brady is still alive and KG hasn't hurt himself on a trampoline?
 
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Priceless said:
This is a really bad day for Boston sports fans. Someone want to check and make sure Tom Brady is still alive and KG hasn't hurt himself on a trampoline?
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TB may be breathing, but since the Brazilian Bombshell got her hooks into him, he's a big oh-fer in SB's.
 
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The Boston Red Sox acquired outfielder Marlon Byrd and cash considerations from the Chicago Cubs in exchange for right-handed pitcher Michael Bowden and a player to be named later.


hmmmmm
 
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Looks like the front office is getting an early start on rearranging deck chairs on the titanic.
 
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I'm done with this team until things change. The players don't care - not one of them looked Bobby V in the eye as they filed past yesterday. The manager is out of touch - he said he left a reliever in to face a guy because the guy hadn't got a hit all year...the guy was 3-for-6 the night before AGAINST BOSTON! The front office is a neutered puppy - and every rival GM knows it. The ownership takes us for granted. As long as the precious string of *cough* sellouts *cough* continues, bricks are being sold and they play Sweet Caroline the owners don't care about the product on the field.

If I was John Henry...

Dump Larry Lucchino. Trade Beckett and Youkilis because they are clubhouse cancers. Either tell Ben Cherington the Red Sox are his baby, or get a GM you trust to do the job. That means when you tell him to hire a manager and he finds a manager he wants to hire, you don't take his balls and stuff them in a jar. You hire the freaking manager.

Or just sell the team, move to Liverpool and focus on the Reds. Or better yet, sell them too and go focus on NASCAR.

At least the NHL playoffs will keep me occupied until June.

Oh yeah, buy a brick. :rolleyes:
 
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mookie1995 said:
The Boston Red Sox acquired outfielder Marlon Byrd and cash considerations from the Chicago Cubs in exchange for right-handed pitcher Michael Bowden and a player to be named later.


hmmmmm
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11-30 in last 41 games... despite being 3rd in runs per game during that time (and 30th in ERA). Bowden is pretty terrible (though not any worse than melancon) but is trading pitching for hitting really the answer here?
 
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SteveF said:
11-30 in last 41 games... despite being 3rd in runs per game during that time (and 30th in ERA). Bowden is pretty terrible (though not any worse than melancon) but is trading pitching for hitting really the answer here?
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Bowden was out of options and was DFA anyway. Odds are that someone would have picked him up for nothing on the waiver wire. So at least the Red Sox got something...

Best part of the rainout is that the Red Sox can't lose! I hear the staff is still going to play Sweet Caroline at about 11:30 anyway.
 
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SteveF said:
11-30 in last 41 games... despite being 3rd in runs per game during that time (and 30th in ERA). Bowden is pretty terrible (though not any worse than melancon) but is trading pitching for hitting really the answer here?
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byrd is what so far this year?? 3 for 40?
 
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