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rpi82 said:
It happens, but the solution is for fans to let the offender know that it's not acceptable. Bruce Coles, a black man from Montreal, was an excellent forward for RPI in the late '80s and early '90s. He went on to play for the Canadian National Team and many seasons in the AHL. At Harvard, I was sitting next to a young man that yelled racially-based taunts at Coles. They weren't slurs, but things he (and probably he alone) thought were clever, such as variants on the theme of "Give him a basketball." To my regret (particularly since I had my hispanic Litte Brother with me at the time) I let him yell a number of times before I told him to knock it off. He initially denied that they were racially-based, to which I responded with an expletive that the BB/BS program might not have approved of either. To the kid's credit, however, he thought about it and later admitted he was wrong.
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From back in 1995. Current NBC hockey analyst Anson Carter was a star player at Michigan State. Miami swept a series in East Lansing, and they attempted to carry on a tradition of scraping up ice chips to melt down and display as a "scalp" in their locker room. If that wasn't unsavory enough, the Spartans and (then) Redskins ended up in a brawl as MSU tried to prevent the scrape. In the middle of the mayhem, a Miami player (who went on to become a D-1 assistant coach) could clearly be heard calling Carter "midnight" as he yelled from behind the front line. That part isn't caught in the following video, but I was right along the glass to hear it in person and positively identify the player. I wonder what his own goalie Eustace King thought of that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZ_ret-PtcU

My favorite part is MSU captain Tyler Harlton throwing around a Miami player like a rag doll.
 
John J. MacInnes said:
From back in 1995. Current NBC hockey analyst Anson Carter was a star player at Michigan State. Miami swept a series in East Lansing, and they attempted to carry on a tradition of scraping up ice chips to melt down and display as a "scalp" in their locker room. If that wasn't unsavory enough, the Spartans and (then) Redskins ended up in a brawl as MSU tried to prevent the scrape. In the middle of the mayhem, a Miami player (who went on to become a D-1 assistant coach) could clearly be heard calling Carter "midnight" as he yelled from behind the front line. That part isn't caught in the following video, but I was right along the glass to hear it in person and positively identify the player. I wonder what his own goalie Eustace King thought of that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZ_ret-PtcU

My favorite part is MSU captain Tyler Harlton throwing around a Miami player like a rag doll.
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Its not excusable but I think in the "heat of the moment" people tend to revert to their basic nature or lose control of their inhibited behavior. Hopefully this basic nature is changed as people get smarter and value systems change. Its a continuous journey for all of us, self included.
 
Sol Diablo said:
Its not excusable but I think in the "heat of the moment" people tend to revert to their basic nature or lose control of their inhibited behavior. Hopefully this basic nature is changed as people get smarter and value systems change. Its a continuous journey for all of us, self included.
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Hopefully.

I was actually at MSU that night, but further away from the ice. What a melee.
 
Sol Diablo said:
Sure, if/when we all get a chance to play. Hated to see UAA fold, was hoping the West/NW/SW would be expanding.
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Me too. It’s terrible news. Our best shot at long term stability is more teams in the true west. It’d be nice to get the Colorado teams on board but none of them are going to leave their current situations.
 
The latest according to coach Powers includes;
team training begins Monday, the arena is still on track for opening summer/fall 2022 (we'll see if something doesn't get postponed on this). Also he is investigating the possibility of joining a conference during this COVID pandemic, being that only in-conference games might be an outcome, and such conference would be the conference to join longer term.

https://www.azfamily.com/sports/col...cle_d8d0b99c-e727-11ea-aa3a-9b47066b1b70.html
 
Sol Diablo said:
The latest according to coach Powers includes;
team training begins Monday, the arena is still on track for opening summer/fall 2022 (we'll see if something doesn't get postponed on this). Also he is investigating the possibility of joining a conference during this COVID pandemic, being that only in-conference games might be an outcome, and such conference would be the conference to join longer term.

https://www.azfamily.com/sports/col...cle_d8d0b99c-e727-11ea-aa3a-9b47066b1b70.html
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Sol, what conference do you see ASU landing in? I could see them having a one year scheduling arrangement with the Big Ten, but unsure the Big Ten would want to add them as a permanent member unless no other Big Ten school is likely to add hockey in the near future.
 
wsummers said:
Sol, what conference do you see ASU landing in? I could see them having a one year scheduling arrangement with the Big Ten, but unsure the Big Ten would want to add them as a permanent member unless no other Big Ten school is likely to add hockey in the near future.
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I have no clue, really don't.
 
SiouxFanatic said:
I wonder if they’re talking to the Big Ten? Could do arrangement similar to what Notre Dame is doing with the ACC in football for this upcoming season so they can get guaranteed games in.
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That makes sense, so stop it! ;). I see where Dixon Bowen is going to Finland. Great kid! I grew up with his great uncle in EGF.
 
SiouxFanatic said:
I wonder if they’re talking to the Big Ten? Could do arrangement similar to what Notre Dame is doing with the ACC in football for this upcoming season so they can get guaranteed games in.
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ASU has had a scheduling arrangement with B10 for several years so it is possible they could arrange to be the common non-conference foe for one year if the B10 goes to a conference only schedule. However, with budget cuts most B10 teams would prefer to schedule teams within busing distance to save airfare and hotel (if home and home) costs.

If ASU believes there are several west coast teams eager to start a D1 hockey program then they should join the WCHA and use it as a landing place for the new west teams. Otherwise, I’d see if it might be possible to replace Miami with Miami moving to CCHA. Geographically that would make sense.
 
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