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St. Lawrence University: Big Time, Old Time Hockey 2014-15

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You are correct on this.

As an aside, Union is now 7-2 in NCAA D-1 games; SLU is 5-26. That just isn't fair - in particular for us SLU fans who are older farts:).

Union is 7-3. They lost to Minn-Duluth in the opening round of 2011.

I have SLU at 5-25. I must have missed something (or just added wrong).
 
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I believe the Men's Banquet was held 4/5 and the Women's Banquet was held on 4/12. Any updates about both events would be appreciated.

As for Appleton, one change that should be made is to place opposing teams' bands as far away from our Student Section as possible. Yeah, it's nice to be an accommodating host - BUT giving said bands some of the best seats in the house and allowing them to completely drown out our Student Section is just plain stupid. Duh?


For the life of me I could never understand the prime placement of (e.g.) Cornell band while I have been relegated to less than ideal seating at Lynah.

Nor can I understand the absence of a SLU student band which would add to the ambiance of a generally laid back Appleton crowd
Surely there must be some liberal arts students who play a musical instrument?

I hesitate to raise the latter for fear of being told to put my money where my mouth is
 
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Yep, pretty sure that's a standard rule either by NCAA or ECAC.
25 is the NCAA limit for NCAA tournament games, but they would not have any say over regular season games. I don't ever recall hearing about a limit imposed by the ECAC for league games, so I'm guessing this is just a SLU policy (which they are, of course, perfectly within their rights to set).
 
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25 is the NCAA limit for NCAA tournament games, but they would not have any say over regular season games. I don't ever recall hearing about a limit imposed by the ECAC for league games, so I'm guessing this is just a SLU policy (which they are, of course, perfectly within their rights to set).
Not sure if it's an ECAC rule or not, but QU limits visiting band numbers to 25 as well as far as I've heard.
 
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25 is the NCAA limit for NCAA tournament games, but they would not have any say over regular season games. I don't ever recall hearing about a limit imposed by the ECAC for league games, so I'm guessing this is just a SLU policy (which they are, of course, perfectly within their rights to set).

I believe this is correct, as other rinks (Starr & Lynah, for example) allow more than 25; I think they both allow 50, but it's been a while since I was in the band.
 
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Clarkson Roundtable says 2 non-conference SLU/Tech games. Didn't say where, so I'm guessing it'll be home/home
 
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Thanks Mike, that was a good read on the recruits.
 
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Thanks also to Mike for the link on the recruits.

There's a big oops in the following article now on USCHO - They are off by a year and Mr. Laylin must still have nightmares about Pete Lappin:):


Former Minnesota player Cory Laylin has accepted the head coaching position at Hamline.

Laylin has been the head coach of the North American Hockey League’s Brookings Blizzard the past two seasons.

“The entire Blizzard organization wants to wish Cory and his family all the best in the future,” said Blizzard owner Chris Canavati in a statement. “He has provided many young men the opportunity to grow and develop as hockey players. We want to thank he and his family for their time and service to our organization and the community of Brookings.”

Laylin played at Minnesota from 1988 to 1992 where his teams won two WCHA titles and played in the 1988 NCAA national championship game. He played professionally for 16 years in the United States and in Europe before starting his coaching career
 
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Clarkson Roundtable says 2 non-conference SLU/Tech games. Didn't say where, so I'm guessing it'll be home/home

They are home and home. At SLU on 10/31, at Clarkson on 11/1. League games are 12/6 at SLU and 1/31 in Hot **** Potsdam.
 
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Got6, I almost always agree with you on everything, but this subject I couldn't disagree more! When is the last time you have actually been to Appleton??? You're making it sound like the late 90's, when the team was struggling and so was the fan base. Your statement that the Clarkson band and fans bringing more than half of the energy leads me to believe you haven't frequented the SLU/Clarkson games at Appleton in years. SLU has restricted the number of members the Clarkson pep band are allowed to bring to 25 and it has made them irrelevant at Appleton ever since, which was much needed since those days back in the 90's. Plus, my opinion on this subject isn't just from being a homer fan, but from someone who has been to every single game since the early 90's. I have seen the ups and downs and the many changes to Appleton. Sometimes the energy is lacking a bit, but it's nowhere near the extreme that you made it appear here and 100% completely opposite of how you described the SLU/Clarkson games at Appleton.

I am in pretty regular attendance at Appleton, however, the last Clarkson series was the three games in the playoffs in 2009 when McKenzie beat them singlehandedly in the 3rd of the third game. I would say that was more of a 50/50 energy show, but if I recall correctly the students were on break. It doesn't matter if the band is 25 members or 10 like the Brown band often is, in Appleton they are loud and generally the visiting bands are also obnoxious. I recall near brawls with the Cornell band in the last 5-10 years. My comparisons are from the 85 to 92 era where Appleton was loud, packed, and positive. I don't even sit in my preferred seats with the faculty anymore because there are some obnoxious townies that yell comments directed at the SLU players and, at the time, Joe Marsh which I can still hear on the other side of the rink. I can't sit there because I can't afford to spend time in the St. Lawrence County jail for putting my fist down their throats. I personally don't like the 'control' the administration and the nightly announcements exert over the crowd and especially the students. I miss things like the chicken man, and more students acting a bit out of control. I will say that the clear exception to that that I saw this year was the SLU - Clarkson game where SLU scored 2 quick and they place was bedlum. I'd like to see it like that more often so that Tom Budd's announcements about good sportsmanship are drowned out by energy producing borderline behavior. You see this in other rinks when you visit, Appleton needs more. I believe we can allow fans to get 'more into the game' and still keep it classy. I am not saying its bad, I am saying I don't agree with the tone they try to set with the announcements. I'd like to see more games with the crowd energy at the Clarkson level. For that to happen, one of the first things that has to happen is letting go some behavior that right now would get you tossed from Appleton provided the ushers are paying attention which they seldom are.
 
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PS I only see 4 games this year on the schedule for home where the students would be gone. Princeton / Qpac the weekend before Thanksgiving which often has some people there for at least Friday night and Cornell / Colgate on Jan 9/10.

Don't know about mid-semester break in mid October but that could impact the two at home on Oct 17-18.
 
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I am in pretty regular attendance at Appleton, however, the last Clarkson series was the three games in the playoffs in 2009 when McKenzie beat them singlehandedly in the 3rd of the third game. I would say that was more of a 50/50 energy show, but if I recall correctly the students were on break. It doesn't matter if the band is 25 members or 10 like the Brown band often is, in Appleton they are loud and generally the visiting bands are also obnoxious. I recall near brawls with the Cornell band in the last 5-10 years. My comparisons are from the 85 to 92 era where Appleton was loud, packed, and positive. I don't even sit in my preferred seats with the faculty anymore because there are some obnoxious townies that yell comments directed at the SLU players and, at the time, Joe Marsh which I can still hear on the other side of the rink. I can't sit there because I can't afford to spend time in the St. Lawrence County jail for putting my fist down their throats. I personally don't like the 'control' the administration and the nightly announcements exert over the crowd and especially the students. I miss things like the chicken man, and more students acting a bit out of control. I will say that the clear exception to that that I saw this year was the SLU - Clarkson game where SLU scored 2 quick and they place was bedlum. I'd like to see it like that more often so that Tom Budd's announcements about good sportsmanship are drowned out by energy producing borderline behavior. You see this in other rinks when you visit, Appleton needs more. I believe we can allow fans to get 'more into the game' and still keep it classy. I am not saying its bad, I am saying I don't agree with the tone they try to set with the announcements. I'd like to see more games with the crowd energy at the Clarkson level. For that to happen, one of the first things that has to happen is letting go some behavior that right now would get you tossed from Appleton provided the ushers are paying attention which they seldom are.

Re comments about Joe.............some people are just plain ignorant. Suppose some idiots expected Joe's teams to go undefeated each season. I started taking my son and his buddies (the boys) to games when Chris was 10. Well, Chris already knew how I (and other intelligent fans) felt about Joe. At their first or second game attended, some imbecile sitting a few rows behind the boys started in on Joe. The boys heard it one too many times, turned around to the imbecile, and told him to shut the blank up or the 4 of them would pay him a visit. I think the boys were ready to put their fists down that idiot's throat. Good thing I wasn't sitting with the boys that night because I'd have needed bail money from the boys!
 
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You can tell its the off season as things are slow here....

Well, in on ice news, here is a photo of Tyler Parks' goalie mask for next year: https://twitter.com/tparks30/status/457542277117009920/photo/1

I should say so Tayt.

On the other hand........if anyone is looking for a ton of fun and the ability to connect with former Saints players, the coaching staff, etc. There is a Saints Hockey outing on Cape Cod on June 2nd. They also have some fantastic auction items with all the NHL connections.

Here is a link for those interested.

http://alumni.stlawu.edu/Saints-Hockey-Golf-Outing
 
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Well, in interesting news at the coaches meeting in FL, it appears that the schools from Minnesota have pulled the plug on the gentleman's agreement in college hockey on verbal commitments. It should be interesting to see how this goes over the next few years.

Story here: http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2014/05/02_recruiting_mutiny_at_coachs.php

A "knee-jerk" reaction to Union winning the title?
 
Re: St. Lawrence University: Big Time, Old Time Hockey 2014-15

Well, in interesting news at the coaches meeting in FL, it appears that the schools from Minnesota have pulled the plug on the gentleman's agreement in college hockey on verbal commitments. It should be interesting to see how this goes over the next few years.

Story here: http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2014/05/02_recruiting_mutiny_at_coachs.php

Boy, I need to digest that. I don't know whether it is beneficial, neutral or Negative to SLU. I think it is mostly addressed at the schools that have 50 recruits a year on Heisenberg's site and it is directed at the Q-Suck, Hockey East and Big 10 type schools. De-committing can be really rough for players. I know Michigan dunces decommitted Joe Day. We have looked at guys that have decommitted from other programs or have been decommitted from other programs and passed on a lot of them. If a school decommits a guy its usually for a good reason such as not developing. We do fish in the same pools as Minny and the like, but not for the same type of player. A kid who wants 50,000 students and big city Minneapolis is not going to probably like SLU. Plus, I think often we are looking for higher academic caliber players than them. It sure does change the landscape though and now these schools that can bag anyone they set their sites on can pretty much let the NHL scouting bureau do their job for them. The interesting thing is that a lot of USHL players are PG's from high school. Maybe Minny wants the pick of the litter from Minnesota high schools. I agree its gotten out of hand. Maine just committed an 8th grader. But, it has always been something that set college hockey apart when the rules were followed. I know Maine broke those rules in the past with Kent Salfi. Just don't know. Would like to get Carvy's take on it.
 
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OK. I don't particularly like it, but what can you do? Coaches are paid (some very very well) to win national championships, especially the BCS schools. If you, Clarkson, or some other small, out of the way school has a committed player that some large program develops an interest in (thinking Beanpot school for a Mass kid, or a BCS school for most anyone else) and is willing to offer a 4 for 4, and the kid jumps, what are you going to do?

The only thing you hope is the coach has the decency to call you to tell you what he wants to do. You don't want to read about your prized recruit being poached in Heisenberg's site, twitter, or one of the message boards.
 
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OK. I don't particularly like it, but what can you do? Coaches are paid (some very very well) to win national championships, especially the BCS schools. If you, Clarkson, or some other small, out of the way school has a committed player that some large program develops an interest in (thinking Beanpot school for a Mass kid, or a BCS school for most anyone else) and is willing to offer a 4 for 4, and the kid jumps, what are you going to do?

The only thing you hope is the coach has the decency to call you to tell you what he wants to do. You don't want to read about your prized recruit being poached in Heisenberg's site, twitter, or one of the message boards.

Yes, but if you offered a kid and he accepted, you hope he has the integrity to let you know that he is still shopping the market. It should benefit players who could set off bidding wars. Program A offers 3 for 4, program B decides they need that player and offer them 4 for 4, etc. It doesn't do a **** thing about schools decommitting or cutting a player. Scholarships are generally resigned every year and any player that has signed an LOI and gets canned by admissions or any other thing can result in them getting cut loose. If I were a player or a parent of one, I'd look hard at that and the history of the coaching staff keeping promises to players. That is where the schools in the ECAC (especially SLU) would make out like bandits. The only benefit is a player can still field offers up to signing day. And, you know in some cases it hurts schools because if a player doesn't commit until the signing day, sometimes schools don't know what they have or don't have coming in.

Tough sledding for SLU guys in the AHL playoffs...Rochester, Springfield and Manchester all lost in the first round.
 
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