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St. Lawrence University: Big Time, Old Time Hockey 2014-15

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The doing away of verbal agreements is going to create a lot more volatility for everyone. Players can be more slippery and opportunistic and so can coaches. Outside of reputation risk, I see no reason why a coach doesn't say bye bye to someone if a better option becomes available if players can do the same.

In my opinion, this rule helps the big boys who can now purge other teams commits when their players leave early and it hurts the lesser hockey schools....in my mind, this hurts the entire ECAC.
 
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bothman said:
The doing away of verbal agreements is going to create a lot more volatility for everyone. Players can be more slippery and opportunistic and so can coaches. Outside of reputation risk, I see no reason why a coach doesn't say bye bye to someone if a better option becomes available if players can do the same.

In my opinion, this rule helps the big boys who can now purge other teams commits when their players leave early and it hurts the lesser hockey schools....in my mind, this hurts the entire ECAC.
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Especially the Ivies who have nothing BUT verbal commits. This is a major Foxtrot U from all the factory schools - coincidence that this happened just after the title has been won 2 years in a row by "little guys?" I think not...
 
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LynahFan said:
Especially the Ivies who have nothing BUT verbal commits. This is a major Foxtrot U from all the factory schools - coincidence that this happened just after the title has been won 2 years in a row by "little guys?" I think not...
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You guys suck at cheering a guy up!;) To be honest, there are programs that cheated on the verbal commitments too. In general, this gets sticky when you consider that few hockey players are going from their senior year to college to play hockey anymore, we have schools always trying to figure out which year to enroll players, and that if you keep sniping players, maybe yours will be sniped too as the revenge factor is in full effect. Maybe Minny just wants to steal that stud kid going to BU for the Vanek like rental?

Anyway, Mark Morris was cut loose from the Manchester Monarchs. I am sure the first round playoff exit hurt him, but that's a nice how do you do for a team that finished first in the east and second in the league in points!! Doubt he is ready to retire. Wonder where he turns up next.
 
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Got 6 said:
You guys suck at cheering a guy up!;)
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Awwww, give us a hug, G6.... And that's not just the 5 Shock Tops at the Ft. Lauderdale airport talking... Well, maybe a little. :)

Maybe Morris will go to Union after Bennett gets poached by a $$$ school... They should be so lucky to have 3 great coaches in a row.
 
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Awwww, give us a hug, G6.... And that's not just the 5 Shock Tops at the Ft. Lauderdale airport talking... Well, maybe a little. :)

Maybe Morris will go to Union after Bennett gets poached by a $$$ school... They should be so lucky to have 3 great coaches in a row.
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The big boys in college hockey are do everything in their power to make college hockey mirror women's basketball where you can pencil in 3/4 final four teams every year
 
Got 6 said:
You guys suck at cheering a guy up!;) To be honest, there are programs that cheated on the verbal commitments too. In general, this gets sticky when you consider that few hockey players are going from their senior year to college to play hockey anymore, we have schools always trying to figure out which year to enroll players, and that if you keep sniping players, maybe yours will be sniped too as the revenge factor is in full effect. Maybe Minny just wants to steal that stud kid going to BU for the Vanek like rental?

Anyway, Mark Morris was cut loose from the Manchester Monarchs. I am sure the first round playoff exit hurt him, but that's a nice how do you do for a team that finished first in the east and second in the league in points!! Doubt he is ready to retire. Wonder where he turns up next.
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Since Hershey's Haviland just got the CC job, I hope that MM winds up in Chocolatetown, USA.
 
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I'm ambivalent about it. It seems like an enormous change and it will take time to digest. My instinct is it will hurt the ECAC because we have higher admissions requirements. With coaches free to raid each other right up until the kid takes his first class, the only limitation on player mobility is admissions. If you got into Brown then you got into North Dakota, so North Dakota is always able to lure a Brown player; the converse is not at all true.

At the risk of sounding like an escapee from the Von Mises Asylum, there's something inherently attractive about eliminating restrictions on players' mobility. Of course, commitments also protected players, so this is not just a victory for the Factory Programs but also for elite prospects at the expense of the vast majority of players "who will be going pro in something else." It has the same critical error as most kinds of deregulation -- the elite (schools and players) strike it rich but everybody else loses their security.
 
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Re Appleton / SLU bands. FWIW, in the early '70s a bunch of my friends from the Canton High School Band used to show up at Appleton with trombones, trumpets and drums and even electric guitars in hand. They added a great deal to the character of the games even when there were just seven or eight of them. Maybe someone could go recruit a band at the end of State Street. For free hot dogs and sodas.

Also FWIW, the key to making Appleton more raucous IMO is always going to be getting more students to the games with greater consistency (and Canton kids too). The townspeople are loyal but they sit on their butts and they've been sitting on their butts for sixty years. SLU has 300 more students now than it had 4 or 5 year's ago. Is Appleton getting its pro-rata share of new hockey fans? When I was a young kid (early 60's), every game had far more students in attendance than I estimate are there today (admittedly via photos and webcasts and leaky memory). Appleton actually used to be a tough ticket. Kid's have far more choices on Friday night than they probably did in 1963 but there has got to be some more inexpensive marketing ideas for targeting the students on game days.

Has anyone ever tried to turn the soldiers and their families at Fort Drum into an SLU fan base by running busses from the base? It would be a 40 minute bus ride for world class hockey. What else are they going to do in the middle of the winter? Soldiers do noise really well.
 
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Spaceman said:
Bcarisle, good comments and I like the Fort Drum idea.

In other news, I was bummed to see Bob Prier resign from Princeton today. I good guy, who I'm sure will land on his feet somewhere.

http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2014/05/12_bob_prier_resigns_at_princeton.php
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I hope he lands on his feet. Even though Gadowski had success there it was a really tough gig. Princeton has never supported hockey and I don't think they get any favors from admissions. Bobby has integrity, a ridiculous work ethic and a passion for winning and I hope he lands in a good place.
 
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Got 6, do you think Bobby will head back into the assistant college hockey ranks or maybe seek a head coaching gig in the USHL?
 
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Spaceman said:
Got 6, do you think Bobby will head back into the assistant college hockey ranks or maybe seek a head coaching gig in the USHL?
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I bet he goes back home to coach the OHL Ottawa 67's.
 
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critsports said:
Tough week for SLU Grads. Shero is gone. Latest said the new GM (whoever that is) will decide Bylsma's fate.
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More than Ray Shero are on the brink in Pittsburgh.

Jacques Martin '75 is the Assistant Coach. Randy Sexton '82 is co-head of Amateur Scouting as is Jay Heinbuck (ex-SLU Assistant Coach). Not listed but I think Paul Gallagher '77 was or is scouting for the Pens' as well.

The press in Pittsburgh has been brutal on the scouting and drafting (They managed to miss Jonathan Toews) . I guess nobody remembers that the 2013 GM of the Year was Ray Shero. I'm betting Shero ends up with Barry Trotz in Washington, where they will torture Crosby, Malkin and Lemieux for years to come.
 
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