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St. Lawrence Skating Saints '17-'18

Re: St. Lawrence Skating Saints '17-'18

I just deleted my post, as it was written in a fit of frustration and also was unfair to Greg. I had hoped to delete it before it was quoted, but you beat me to the punch. While it's your call, I'd nonetheless appreciate it, Drewcu, if you would delete your response that includes my post. BTW, CCT is looking very good this season. Good luck except when you play us. Also, I miss the Roundtable Chat Room. I had fun in there with the usual CCT guys, several of whom I've met.

Brian I don't think a whole lot of people saw it .......but I found out the hard way that something that was on our other Facebook thread for only 10 minutes, wound up causing some grief for someone (IMO) not deserving of it. I'm told there are spies and moles out there who screenshot our comments (if they are at all negative) and pass them on to you know who. Some of those who do it think themselves the "most loyal of fans".......but, in the end they are actually helping the cause because it did in fact bring things to a head. I don't think anyone at the University AD or Admin level has the stomach to do what's required (as it will tarnish our program and reputation, but we'll see if someone has the courage to step up.)

And Scott.......I do think everything is pretty much out there now. And, unfortunately it is already detrimental to the program in several areas. But isn't/hasn't that been the main gripe or complaint all along??? That all the good intent, character and caring for the student athletes first......... was and is what SLU was all about and no longer is? Regardless of outcome.......it's all out there, it will hurt recruiting (already has) and, I hope we can recover from it. And for those who were against or questioned the hiring in the first place.....isn't this issue what was at the core of all the discontent from the very beginning? If it plays out and proves any of those allegations are true.......then all that disagreement at the start will have been justified a thousand times over.
 
Re: St. Lawrence Skating Saints '17-'18

And Scott.......I do think everything is pretty much out there now. And, unfortunately it is already detrimental to the program in several areas. But isn't/hasn't that been the main gripe or complaint all along??? That all the good intent, character and caring for the student athletes first......... was and is what SLU was all about and no longer is? Regardless of outcome.......it's all out there, it will hurt recruiting (already has) and, I hope we can recover from it. And for those who were against or questioned the hiring in the first place.....isn't this issue what was at the core of all the discontent from the very beginning? If it plays out and proves any of those allegations are true.......then all that disagreement at the start will have been justified a thousand times over.

Yes, this is exactly what my main complaint (I do have a few others as well) about the situation has been the whole time. Not as much about what the allegations are and/or whether they are true or not. That is not for me or anyone else in a public forum to determine. My problem was and is still that all of this being posted online is harming the program. We now all know that it is. I never understood and still don't understand the point of doing what some people are choosing to do. They want to get Coach Morris out of there, I get that part, but how about not taking the entire program down with him? It's already done enough damage and I too hope we can recover from it.
 
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Done, as per your request. Hang in there.

Thanks, Drew. I owe you one. I really miss joining you and the others in the Clarkson Chat Room during games. We get to bust on each other (although I'm totally on my own, the CR loves to temporarily kick me out at least 10-15X per game (are SLU fans censored in there? LOL), and you CCT fans would be having a "field day" with me this season), but it's would have all been in good fun. Are there any plans that you know of for Scott or a designee(s) to get the CR back up and running this season? I hope so.
 
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Brian I don't think a whole lot of people saw it .......but I found out the hard way that something that was on our other Facebook thread for only 10 minutes, wound up causing some grief for someone (IMO) not deserving of it. I'm told there are spies and moles out there who screenshot our comments (if they are at all negative) and pass them on to you know who. Some of those who do it think themselves the "most loyal of fans".......but, in the end they are actually helping the cause because it did in fact bring things to a head. I don't think anyone at the University AD or Admin level has the stomach to do what's required (as it will tarnish our program and reputation, but we'll see if someone has the courage to step up.)

And Scott.......I do think everything is pretty much out there now. And, unfortunately it is already detrimental to the program in several areas. But isn't/hasn't that been the main gripe or complaint all along??? That all the good intent, character and caring for the student athletes first......... was and is what SLU was all about and no longer is? Regardless of outcome.......it's all out there, it will hurt recruiting (already has) and, I hope we can recover from it. And for those who were against or questioned the hiring in the first place.....isn't this issue what was at the core of all the discontent from the very beginning? If it plays out and proves any of those allegations are true.......then all that disagreement at the start will have been justified a thousand times over.

Mike, I had written a similar post for FB that I wrote here but then deleted on FB by asking John M. to not publish it (and I also deleted here on USCHO). Although very unlikely, perhaps the post you are referring to was mine which, again, I asked to be withdrawn and was not censored (not published) based on a decision by the "SLU FB Admin."
 
Re: St. Lawrence Skating Saints '17-'18

Brian I don't think a whole lot of people saw it .......but I found out the hard way that something that was on our other Facebook thread for only 10 minutes, wound up causing some grief for someone (IMO) not deserving of it. I'm told there are spies and moles out there who screenshot our comments (if they are at all negative) and pass them on to you know who. Some of those who do it think themselves the "most loyal of fans".......but, in the end they are actually helping the cause because it did in fact bring things to a head. I don't think anyone at the University AD or Admin level has the stomach to do what's required (as it will tarnish our program and reputation, but we'll see if someone has the courage to step up.)

And Scott.......I do think everything is pretty much out there now. And, unfortunately it is already detrimental to the program in several areas. But isn't/hasn't that been the main gripe or complaint all along??? That all the good intent, character and caring for the student athletes first......... was and is what SLU was all about and no longer is? Regardless of outcome.......it's all out there, it will hurt recruiting (already has) and, I hope we can recover from it. And for those who were against or questioned the hiring in the first place.....isn't this issue what was at the core of all the discontent from the very beginning? If it plays out and proves any of those allegations are true.......then all that disagreement at the start will have been justified a thousand times over.

So, some people are very paranoid if there are indeed spies and moles out there monitoring social media. Said people should be far more concerned with finding ways to fix this instead of (IT APPEARS) covering their butts:

http://www.uscho.com/rankings/pairwise-rankings/d-i-men/

CCT is tied for 1st and we are dead last at #60. How the mighty have fallen!
 
Re: St. Lawrence Skating Saints '17-'18

Thanks, Drew. I owe you one. I really miss joining you and the others in the Clarkson Chat Room during games. We get to bust on each other (although I'm totally on my own, the CR loves to temporarily kick me out at least 10-15X per game (are SLU fans censored in there? LOL), and you CCT fans would be having a "field day" with me this season), but it's would have all been in good fun. Are there any plans that you know of for Scott or a designee(s) to get the CR back up and running this season? I hope so.

Sent an email to Scott asking if he has any plans to resurrect the chat room. Stay tuned and to the SLU faithful, hang in there.
 
Re: St. Lawrence Skating Saints '17-'18

Thanks, Drew. I owe you one. I really miss joining you and the others in the Clarkson Chat Room during games. We get to bust on each other (although I'm totally on my own, the CR loves to temporarily kick me out at least 10-15X per game (are SLU fans censored in there? LOL), and you CCT fans would be having a "field day" with me this season), but it's would have all been in good fun. Are there any plans that you know of for Scott or a designee(s) to get the CR back up and running this season? I hope so.

Hey Muskie, no worries at all , being a gentleman is above all. SLU is a rival, but I want you guys at your best (a little below Tech, of course) and wish you guys a quick recovery. I would find it hard to believe that anyone at Clarkson is happy with your struggles.


PS
beer is good......payable at the Hoot one day. :D
 
Re: St. Lawrence Skating Saints '17-'18

Hey Muskie, no worries at all , being a gentleman is above all. SLU is a rival, but I want you guys at your best (a little below Tech, of course) and wish you guys a quick recovery. I would find it hard to believe that anyone at Clarkson is happy with your struggles.


PS
beer is good......payable at the Hoot one day. :D

At 1-12-1, beer is extra good. I'll be there. :)
 
Re: St. Lawrence Skating Saints '17-'18

KHL Red Star fired Mike Keenan ....can a triumphant Canton return be far off? Let the rumors swirl! 😜
 
Re: St. Lawrence Skating Saints '17-'18

KHL Red Star fired Mike Keenan ....can a triumphant Canton return be far off? Let the rumors swirl! 😜

From the sounds of it...........I don't think it would provide much of a change. Two coaches (current one Morris) and Keenan both old school and of the same "beloved by all their players" school. As Brandon pointed out "Iron Mike" is staying put for the time being, but, you've got to think he'll want to be back in the states soon. From everything I've read.......living over there and not speaking the language are very difficult things.
 
Re: St. Lawrence Skating Saints '17-'18

@LeifSkodnick

BREAKING: St. Lawrence University has hired Bond, Schoneck, and King to review allegations of violations of NCAA rules and university policies by the men’s hockey program, citing need for fairness in hiring outside firm to investigate. #CawlidgeHawkey

@LeifSkodnick

2/ the allegations prompting the investigation were circulated via social media and message boards, and were communicated to the university admin. via email as well, per the memo sent to the SLU community announcing the investigation.


https://twitter.com/LeifSkodnick/status/938197117197258754
 
Re: St. Lawrence Skating Saints '17-'18

Morris getting the Schiano treatment. Only thing left to mirror the Tennessee cluster ---- is to hire Marsh to handpick the next victim errr coach.
 
Re: St. Lawrence Skating Saints '17-'18

Are these "allegations" under Morris or under Carvel?

From the outside looking in, it does not look good, no matter who is involved. Odd that they would cite social media as a reason for an investigation though. E-Mails I could see being used as evidence. Hopefully for the program it is something to do with recruiting, rather than an investigation of the current coaching situation. Lord knows the program has taken enough hits as it is.
 
From the outside looking in, it does not look good, no matter who is involved. Odd that they would cite social media as a reason for an investigation though. E-Mails I could see being used as evidence. Hopefully for the program it is something to do with recruiting, rather than an investigation of the current coaching situation. Lord knows the program has taken enough hits as it is.

It isn't alleged recruiting violations. CHN has an article that lays it out for the most part.
 
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