SLU Hockey 2011-2012

[hockeyplayer1015]

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Losing 9-3 to Michigan. Embarassing......I cannot believe the Saints are that bad. Too much talent to be losing like this. Its apparent without Joe, we are a completely different program.

Even worse, it was 10-3. It's hard to tell if we got outplayed that much, or if Michigan is just that good and can finish. The stats show a pretty even game.

Let's look at some positives though: only 3 penalties, 1 in each period. 2-6 on the PP. 3-3 on the PK. Also, Grilk played the 3rd, and we all know he is the 4th horse in that barn.

I am concerned that our goaltending situation looks pretty underwhelming with now. Weninger has had a couple bad games now, and Moss hasn't played real well either. I would like to see Spads get the nod Saturday to see how he fares, but I don't know if he made the trip. I certainly didn't expect this game to be real close, but I also didn't expect to give up a 10-spot to the Michigan Foot.. I mean hockey team.

On to RIT Saturday before a few weeks off before league play against the Capital District. Let's hope they put forth a good effort to build on Saturday night.

 

[Pirateasaurus]

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10 goals on 34 shots? Yeesh. Even if they had 34 breakaways that would be around average.

by the way, I'm a Michigan State guy so i was hoping you guys would win tonight.

 

[Harp 34]

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Sorry Tim - was referring to $ both team's spent on long, massive contracts for their #4 & 5 hitters: ARod, Teixera and Howard.

Tough one tonight for SLU - hopefully they can make the necessary adjustments and tack on the first W of the season at RIT.

 

[TimU]

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Sorry Tim - was referring to $ both team's spent on long, massive contracts for their #4 & 5 hitters: ARod, Teixera and Howard.

Tough one tonight for SLU - hopefully they can make the necessary adjustments and tack on the first W of the season at RIT.

I agree with that 100%. You can pay them a billion dollars a year, but it doesn't mean they're going to hit.

I hope SLU can manage a win tomorrow too, but I'm not holding my breath at this point. Tough travel weekend, and they didn't exactly come out firing on all cylinders this year. And if you don't have a goaltender playing well, it doesn't much matter what everybody else does. One of those guys has to step it up (or better yet, two of them).

 

[hockeyplayer1015]

I agree with that 100%. You can pay them a billion dollars a year, but it doesn't mean they're going to hit.

I hope SLU can manage a win tomorrow too, but I'm not holding my breath at this point. Tough travel weekend, and they didn't exactly come out firing on all cylinders this year. And if you don't have a goaltender playing well, it doesn't much matter what everybody else does. One of those guys has to step it up (or better yet, two of them).

One of the Michigan posters said on their thread we dominated the first 12 minutes or so, but then #4 in the country woke up and played like #4 in the country should be playing. Sounded like both teams slept in the 3rd until Michigan's 8th goal, then SLU packed it in and didn't play at all. They mentioned that Flanny showed up to play... but not much else.

I'm with you, Tim. Hoping for a spark tomorrow night, but not expecting anything.

 

[GoldenBear]

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Losing 9-3 to Michigan. Embarassing......I cannot believe the Saints are that bad. Too much talent to be losing like this. Its apparent without Joe, we are a completely different program.

Wanted to say something after last weekend but figured it was only the first weekend and should keep my mouth closed. However, it is already extremely clear that the team is in complete disarray without Joe. Last weekend was the sloppiest and most undisciplined SLU hockey team I have seen in my 25 years of following them. Then to play hard for the first 10 minutes last night then completely bag it the rest of the way is embarrassing. I know they are young and it's early in the season and the other 30 excuses we can throw out there for them but it is very evident this team needs a major shake-up and saying that only 3 games in is not good at all.

Praying harder then ever for a speedy recovery for Joe.

 

[Muskieman]

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10 to 3. There's nothing else to say.

 

[Got 6 Want More]

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Ummm, I think Sabathia was the 5th, 6th, 7th and part of the 8th best pitcher. What a tank of love he has turned into. A-roid sucked as he generally does when it counts. But, at least, it was not the Red Sox implosion with the starting rotation drinking beer in the clubhouse during games, playing video games and eating french fries and hotdogs. I don't even know what Francona and Epstein do in that situation, but I would put them on waivers and call up all of Pawtucket. That is just inexcusable. It's all good now though...really don't care who wins. Different reasons to root for any of them.

 

[Got 6 Want More]

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Wanted to say something after last weekend but figured it was only the first weekend and should keep my mouth closed. However, it is already extremely clear that the team is in complete disarray without Joe. Last weekend was the sloppiest and most undisciplined SLU hockey team I have seen in my 25 years of following them. Then to play hard for the first 10 minutes last night then completely bag it the rest of the way is embarrassing. I know they are young and it's early in the season and the other 30 excuses we can throw out there for them but it is very evident this team needs a major shake-up and saying that only 3 games in is not good at all.

Praying harder then ever for a speedy recovery for Joe.

You are probably right and I bet it has last to do with X's and O's which Hurley and Carvey can cover in spades, but just the fire that Joe bring to the room and the fire breathing mentality he breathes on the players. I think the classic Joe speech is good for an extra goal or two per game. But after 4 games and 24 GA against and 8 for, with three of those games at home...ouch! Win at RIT is now almost a must to have something to build on for the rest of October, but that is going to be tough. This team is finding ways to show its youth and is a long way from where they want to be. Wishing Joe, Hurley and Carvey the best. If BP was still around I wonder which player would be wearing a chair right now. 10-1 at Maine, 10-3 at Michigan. Those are probably the two biggest **** shows ever for SLU hockey....well other than 8.1 @ Brown. Very frustrating sledding early.

 

[justlookin']

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I know that the performance of our Saints has been a little off so far in the early part of this season. But for posters here to say the lack of Joe is completely unfair to our coaching staff.

Last night Ferris beat RPI 4-0. I was at appletown for the Ferris games. While no real studs were in their roster, they were clones of one and other; big, skated well and had solid puck movement and overall, a very good team.

Thursday night, our goal tending had an off night. One in three shots went into the net. As one non-SLU poster put it...with 34 breakaways we could hope for about the same outcome. Wenny and Moss are certainly better than that, so let's chalk that up to an off-night.

This team is not a 20 win team but I'll bet they will be alright. In the meantime, I know the kids are really happy with the level of coaching they are getting and if you asked them if they need Joe or even BP to right the ship... (While they would be happy to have Joe back) they would say it has nothing to do with the guys behind the bench.

Just win baby!

 

[hockeyplayer1015]

I know that the performance of our Saints has been a little off so far in the early part of this season. But for posters here to say the lack of Joe is completely unfair to our coaching staff.

Last night Ferris beat RPI 4-0. I was at appletown for the Ferris games. While no real studs were in their roster, they were clones of one and other; big, skated well and had solid puck movement and overall, a very good team.

Thursday night, our goal tending had an off night. One in three shots went into the net. As one non-SLU poster put it...with 34 breakaways we could hope for about the same outcome. Wenny and Moss are certainly better than that, so let's chalk that up to an off-night.

This team is not a 20 win team but I'll bet they will be alright. In the meantime, I know the kids are really happy with the level of coaching they are getting and if you asked them if they need Joe or even BP to right the ship... (While they would be happy to have Joe back) they would say it has nothing to do with the guys behind the bench.

Just win baby!

This. We aren't losing to teams like AIC and UCONN, but rather some pretty good teams. Ferris may have been picked to finish 8th in the CCHA, but I'll guess they finish a little higher than that. RPI was picked by many to compete for a bye, and they just got beat in similar fashion to us.

I'm not standing on the edge of the bridge yet. It's quite possible we go 0-fer until the Princeton game or later. Obviously nobody hopes that happens, but we don't have a cupcake schedule leading up to the winter break. The fellas will be fine once things fall into place.

 

[Saints17]

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Just a reminder to those living in New York State, Time Warner Sports will be televising the Saints vs RIT tonight.

 

[critsports]

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This. We aren't losing to teams like AIC and UCONN, but rather some pretty good teams. Ferris may have been picked to finish 8th in the CCHA, but I'll guess they finish a little higher than that. RPI was picked by many to compete for a bye, and they just got beat in similar fashion to us.

I'm not standing on the edge of the bridge yet. It's quite possible we go 0-fer until the Princeton game or later. Obviously nobody hopes that happens, but we don't have a cupcake schedule leading up to the winter break. The fellas will be fine once things fall into place.

While RPI got shut out by Ferris State last night; the disappointing thing about our two games was the fact they were at Appleton. This is the year of the home schedule as opposed to the road schedule of last year so in that regard it was disappointing to not get something out of that weekend.

I do think tonight will be a much better indicator. Granted we will be on the road playing in front of a very large crowd in a big arena and that will be working against us.....but.....as good as RIT may or may not be, and they have been good of late, I think we will finally be playing a team of our caliber (or at least I think of our caliber). Not trying to sell us short but I do think this will be a better litmus test than Michigan at Yost.

I'm curious to see how the boys react tonight. After all the coaches have had a little time to work on things (like the penalties) and we sorely need a little bit of momentum as we have quite a break after tonight before the ECAC schedule starts in earnest.

I too am not selling the coaching staff short. With or without Joe (and he certainly is missed)......this is our coaching staff of the future and with the three of them we have arguably one of the best staff's in the nation. Without Joe it is still an impressive couple of coaches with top notch experience in professional hockey.

Let's see how it goes.

 

[TimU]

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Let's see how it goes.

Ummm, not good.

I don't want to overreact or anything, but it's WAY too early in the season to have found this many ways to lose games. This is a little scary.

 

[hockeyplayer1015]

Ummm, not good.

I don't want to overreact or anything, but it's WAY too early in the season to have found this many ways to lose games. This is a little scary.

Yep. Winning breeds winning, and...we're not winning. That was a game we should have won, but we didn't. Capital district at home in 3 weeks, I'm guessing the boys aren't gonna be seeing much rubber for atleast a week.

The good? Our PP is doing pretty well. And we didn't really parade to the box this weekend. That's about it. Giving up 6 goals a game is going to get us about 30 losses.

 

[Saints17]

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Another loss, however RIT is an absolute disgrace to how they conduct themselves. They were flopping around like wounded seals tonight. Anytime a Saints player touched them they dove. Show a little pride in the game RIT. Its sad to win a game like this....watch out for those bluelines they raised them an inch this season.

 

[LtPowers]

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Another loss, however RIT is an absolute disgrace to how they conduct themselves. They were flopping around like wounded seals tonight. Anytime a Saints player touched them they dove. Show a little pride in the game RIT. Its sad to win a game like this....watch out for those bluelines they raised them an inch this season.

I'll let that slide since you're understandably disappointed, but I hope you revisit this tomorrow and reconsider your insult. RIT doesn't flop.


Powers &8^]

 

[blazer777]

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Another loss, however RIT is an absolute disgrace to how they conduct themselves. They were flopping around like wounded seals tonight. Anytime a Saints player touched them they dove. Show a little pride in the game RIT. Its sad to win a game like this....watch out for those bluelines they raised them an inch this season.

First beer aside, what game where you watching?

Your guys got called for four penalties, two for hooking, a holding call and an interference call. You'd think by your comment that you had a player in the penalty box the entire game!

For the rest of the Saints fans, your team played a very physical game and handled the puck well. I was pretty sure you had it with the 5-3 lead but the Tigers were able to come back with some big plays up front that found the net.

Good luck the rest of the season!

 

[critsports]

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Yep. Winning breeds winning, and...we're not winning. That was a game we should have won, but we didn't. Capital district at home in 3 weeks, I'm guessing the boys aren't gonna be seeing much rubber for at least a week.

The good? Our PP is doing pretty well. And we didn't really parade to the box this weekend. That's about it. Giving up 6 goals a game is going to get us about 30 losses.

I think the other positive is our freshman are scoring some goals. Not watching a game live and only listening to one, it's hard to form an opinion on how good they are, or, if they are giving up as much as they are getting.......but each game a different new player seems to get on the scorecard. On the other hand reading the summary and listening and hearing phrases like... "got behind the defense", "all alone at the post" or, "split the defense". Sure sounds like defense and goal tending are very suspect at this point. The goal to win the game for RIT sounded just like the heartbreaking ending to the Ylae game in Albany a few years ago.

Ummm, not good.

I don't want to overreact or anything, but it's WAY too early in the season to have found this many ways to lose games. This is a little scary.

Well Tim it is that scary time of the year with Halloween right around the corner.

Don't know if he is getting shots but Carey has yet to tickle the twine. He is getting points though. I'm sure after last year teams are keying on him.

On another note a great game between the Bruins and Blackhawks tonight. Peverley had a beautiful shorthanded assist on Kelly's goal and he missed a breakaway, shooting a backhander wide that could have won the game in regulation. B's prevailed though in the shootout with Thomas stopping Toews, Kane and Sharp in succession with Seguin scoring for the B's.

 

[hockeyplayer1015]

I think the other positive is our freshman are scoring some goals. Not watching a game live and only listening to one, it's hard to form an opinion on how good they are, or, if they are giving up as much as they are getting.......but each game a different new player seems to get on the scorecard. On the other hand reading the summary and listening and hearing phrases like... "got behind the defense", "all alone at the post" or, "split the defense". Sure sounds like defense and goal tending are very suspect at this point. The goal to win the game for RIT sounded just like the heartbreaking ending to the Ylae game in Albany a few years ago.



Well Tim it is that scary time of the year with Halloween right around the corner.

Don't know if he is getting shots but Carey has yet to tickle the twine. He is getting points though. I'm sure after last year teams are keying on him.

On another note a great game between the Bruins and Blackhawks tonight. Peverley had a beautiful shorthanded assist on Kelly's goal and he missed a breakaway, shooting a backhander wide that could have won the game in regulation. B's prevailed though in the shootout with Thomas stopping Toews, Kane and Sharp in succession with Seguin scoring for the B's.

Another positive to go along with the freshmen scoring early, is Flanny now has 5 goals in 4 games. While Carey hasn't scored yet, Flanny has. Let's remember too that Carey didn't score until the 6th game last season and did alright

After letting the initial feelings pass, I hope we'll benefit from this game going forward. We still have what I feel are winnable games against RPI (they have been shutout 4 out of 5 games), Princeton, and Harvard in our next several weekends of play. Michigan Tech looks like they have righted the ship this season, Union will be a top 4 team for sure, Dartmouth should be good, and Q looks like they'll make some noise. We have a lot of work to do in these couple/few weeks off, but I sense we're going to see a different team against the Capital District (namely one that isn't giving up 6 goals a game).