Re: Shannon Miller out at UMD?
The UM posse is out in full force.
OK you three amigos, let me try to clarify a bit more.
Brookster,
I could have posted positive stories about her that I am aware of but chose not to do so. I could have posted negative stories about her that I am aware of but also chose not to do so because I truly have no skin in this game. But that doesn't mean to say that I haven't appreciated some of the negative points/arguments that the dissenters such as yourself have put forward. I felt no need to add to the list since a lot of what has been posted is apparently well documented or well enough known. As a matter of fact, the negative side is already quite enthusiastically represented here.
So, all I've done by posting some articles is to point out a few things that people may want to consider on the other side of the equation...you know, balance, fairness, equity, objectivity since I find it interesting and since the other side seems to be absent on this board. But, by my doing so, you have concluded that I'm in charge of her cheerleading section. It might be nice if life were black and white like that, but it's not.
Eeyore,
Of course, "assuming what she says is true" and I've explained this here before indicating the possibilities...you seem to have forgotten that. I don't know what lie(s) you are referring to that Berlo may have uttered, since he's been silent on the issue since the first couple of days after he made the announcement. But I will remind you that it has already been proven that he lied initially, thanks to subsequent comments from Black, unless Black was lying when he indicated that he and Berlo had been less than honest when giving their reason for their decision to let her go. So, if you are following along, no matter which way you cut it, at least at the moment, Miller has the credibility, not Berlo...as in 0 for Miller, -1 for Berlo.
Chokepecker,
Yes the article is a lot of rehashed stuff but as I've already pointed out to you, watch the video.
Chokepecker & Brookster,
Of course there is new information in the video unless you guys have been privy to stuff that I am not.
For example, some (I don't think you guys) have bashed her for cutting players last year indicating how cold and cruel that doing so was. In the video she explained a lot of detail including her discussions with Berlo with respect to how that happened and the effort she put in to help place the players so that their needs were best met and that to her knowledge all of them are happy and that she has a good relationship with all of them. Pretty much the opposite picture that some here have been painting and using to bash her with.
She also explained how Berlo bushwacked her...stabbed her in the back. Anyone with an open mind, even if you hate her, would have to give pause (and yes, Eeyore, assuming what she says is true) and think how that might have helped the whole situation get to where it is today.
In pointing these things out I'm not waving Miller pom poms...just pointing them out...not arguing them. But because you guys seem to not want to consider anything but negativity toward her you figure I'm not objective, I'm a shill (and a paid one at that), I have no stones, etc..
Geez, I'd hate to be on trial wrongfully accused of some crime and have you open minded guys sitting on the jury helping to decide my fate. Your attitudes seem to be...if you're not entirely with us you're automatically against us...the Dubya thing.
And lastly Brookster,
We've disagreed in the past at length on something a lot more important than this topic and one where I stood to be ridiculed a lot more than I ever could here, (even if I was supporting Miller), and I had no problem telling you and everyone else where I stood in no uncertain terms. So, you've got to ask yourself, if I did it in that situation why in the world would I not do it in this one? The answer is, I already have done it at least three times now...it's just that you have somehow misunderstood my motives.
