Setting Sail - Oswego State Lakers 2010-2011 Season Thread

[Irishdave]

Re: Setting Sail - Oswego State Lakers 2010-2011 Season Thread

Lest's not throw Dan Jones under the bus here the team in front of him did not have a stellar night.
EDIT: from collegehockeystats

Shots On Goal 	1st	2nd	3rd	Total	 	Penalties/Minutes	SHGF 
 Oswego 	10	11	6	[B]27[/B]	 	 Oswego 	 10	 /	 [B][COLOR="red"]31[/COLOR][/B]	 0 
 Hobart 	17	12	13	[B][COLOR="red"]42[/COLOR][/B]	 	 Hobart 	 7	 /	 14	 0

This may be a good wake up for the team the undefeated monkey is off their back, the loss was not in league, they may lose one or two first place votes, this is just one loss.

 

[Laker28]

Re: Setting Sail - Oswego State Lakers 2010-2011 Season Thread

Hobart did not have 42 shots they had maybe 30 and Oswego had maybe 20. Jones did not look good at all, they blew a couple by him that almost hit him without him moving. He gave them a ton of room and tried to make the big glove saves that he didn't have to make. The rest of the team was just sluggish and unfocused all night. They gave the game to Utica last night but they didn't have the horses to take it, Hobart did. Oswego has been playing uninspired for a few games now but have still one, hopefully this one kicks them in the nuts and they respond with a couple of big wins in the pathfinder.

 

[adfrey]

Re: Setting Sail - Oswego State Lakers 2010-2011 Season Thread

Hobart did not have 42 shots they had maybe 30 and Oswego had maybe 20. Jones did not look good at all, they blew a couple by him that almost hit him without him moving. He gave them a ton of room and tried to make the big glove saves that he didn't have to make. The rest of the team was just sluggish and unfocused all night. They gave the game to Utica last night but they didn't have the horses to take it, Hobart did. Oswego has been playing uninspired for a few games now but have still one, hopefully this one kicks them in the nuts and they respond with a couple of big wins in the pathfinder.

Were you at the game?

 

[CARDS_rule_the_Burgh]

Re: Setting Sail - Oswego State Lakers 2010-2011 Season Thread

Nice to see you've conceded the fact that Plattsburgh can't beat Oswego anymore

but to hope for an injury?...come on Nate...you're better than that. You want to beat your arch-rival at full strength, fair and square.

IIRC, a club goalie is ineligible to play for a varsity team once the season starts.

Nate (CardsRuletheBurgh) would be the one to consult on this as he is the director of hockey operations of the Siena Club team.

That's one of the benefits certain teams have in fielding a JV team rather than (or in addition to) a club team. They are able to call up players.

I know of no restriction on a player getting called up. In fact, I'm almost certain it is allowed. However, a player going from the NCAA team to the ACHA team must sit out a year, and his ACHA eligibility is equal to his remaining NCAA eligibility (even in D2, which allows for 5 years of eligibility, so former NCAAers only get 4).

But I'll keep looking through the rules to see if I'm wrong.

 

[adfrey]

Re: Setting Sail - Oswego State Lakers 2010-2011 Season Thread

I really don't think the Lakers will be calling up a goalie from their club team even if they are able too. I was looking at Clarksons' roster to see how they stacked up at goalie since Tim Potter was a nice transfer previously in the mid-season as well. Clarksons' head coach George Roll coached the Lakers prior to Gosek and it would seem as if they still maintain a good relationship.

 

[Laker28]

Re: Setting Sail - Oswego State Lakers 2010-2011 Season Thread

Were you at the game?

Yes I was. Oswego was outhustled big time and took some more dumb penalties which killed any chance they had. Jones made a couple of good glove saves and he did a really good job of sealing things off on scrambles in front of the net but they ate him up one on one. On Friday he was in great position for everything, tonight he gave a lot of room on the glove and Hobart was able to capitalize. He was not the reason they lost but his weaknesses were exposed for sure.

As for the shot totals it looked like a lot of shots were blocked and four or five hit the outside of the net so it just didn't seem like the real totals should have been that high. Hobart did however dump it straight at Jones a few times which I believe is counted as an official shot.

Broadwater looked solid but he didn't have to be much better than that, a lot of blocked shots by the statesmen greatly decreased his workload. The save on Leimbrock's breakaway was solid position, although I would have like to see Tyler make him work for it a little more.

The officiating was awful but was really only a small factor in Oswego losing.

For several games now Oswego has been playing just good enough to win, tonight that wasn't good enough. Now they need to put this behind them, work on cleaning up their game and start another winning streak.

 

[adfrey]

Re: Setting Sail - Oswego State Lakers 2010-2011 Season Thread

Now they need to put this behind them, work on cleaning up their game and start another winning streak.

I agree completely. Hopefully Paul can get some rest over Christmas.

 

[Laker Ranger]

Re: Setting Sail - Oswego State Lakers 2010-2011 Season Thread

My turn to weigh in now, after watching Scrooge say "humbug" and before reading what else is going on in here - it's been a decent evening otherwise.

Well, everything that's seemed to play out at sub-par level for the Lakers this season finally reared its ugly head and delivered the L. Unable to break out of the defensive zone, sloppy passing, and an offense that couldn't get the quality chances - the Lakers looked completely listless. Perhaps the lack of their regular goaltender on the road for once (certainly not to take anything from DJ, as for besides the 4th goal, he did his job well, imho), or unable to figure out the cold Hobart rink, but bottom line is that the Statesmen had a strong, yet simple strategy of bottling up any attack (sort of like Utica) and capitalizing splendidly on OSU's inability to clear and move up ice.

It is not to take anything from Hobart for their solid performance tonight, but it will be very fitting for the Lakers to fall from first after today, because what I saw out there was panicked, undisciplined hockey, and nothing even close to Oswego's ability to outgun opponents last year in the event that defense could not solve the problem.

Two points I took from this game - one is on the personal level of admiration of Oz's fans turning out on the road in support, and their unmatched spirit when it comes to Campus Center play. When I'm on the road, and the home team beats the Lakers, it seems to be only when the final buzzer sounds that everyone stands and applauds. Absolutely no cheers or chants otherwise (I'll make one exception for Geneseo - that's it). Hobart is no exception - I don't care how cold the place is: you just knocked off the #1 team in the nation, and the best you could muster is a handful of lame cowbells on a goal. Show some spirit - turning out to just sit on your hands does not exemplify support. Make your voice HEARD!

The second point is that on paper, this is but a minor setback. 12-1 is not a record to sneeze at, nor the fact of losing to an NC opponent that's pretty decent, and that there's two weeks ahead for the Lakers to chew on this weekend's results. Hopefully, something will be learned from this debacle in that time frame. Losing #1 on a discussion-provoking poll is a small price to pay for getting your fanny kicked in a wake-up call game that shouldn't throw a wrench into the season in the long term...if an efficient recovery effort is made anyways.

Sorry for the long post - I had to mull over this one and try a post before reading the rest of them pertaining to tonight. Perfect seasons are a rarity, and I don't expect them at all, but this was a pure failure tonight. Now it's time to learn and move on.

 

[Laker28]

Re: Setting Sail - Oswego State Lakers 2010-2011 Season Thread

What I gather on Beckwith is a cracked collarbone and they look for him to be back for the tournament. That is not the official word so don't take it as the gospel.

I agree about the crowd, they were really nonexistent except for the goals and for a few seconds after the final buzzer. Get up and cheer people it is not gonna hurt.

 

[phillyhockey21]

Re: Setting Sail - Oswego State Lakers 2010-2011 Season Thread

I was at the game and I must say that Oswego was far from looking the #1 team in nation and did not even look close to the same team that took down Hobart 5-1 last year.

They made several nice saves but Broadwater and the Hobart defense played well and helped out by blocking shots.

Throughout the game Oswego were taking runs at Hobart players all night and a lot of stupid plays reminded me of Neumann hockey which is if we can't beat you by playing solid hockey then we will take runs and hit you from behind and hit you in the head if we can until you are too battered and bruised to finish the game. Oswego was extremely dirty and got away with a hit that left one player from Hobart on the ice for several minutes in the first and there were several other plays such as with 5 minutes left in the game that was similar.

It was just undisciplined hockey all the way around: unnecessary hits, sloppy passing, panicked shots, etc.

Officiating was suspect both ways with some calls.

That being said when Oswego let their skill players take the puck and skate it, no one could touch them.

I have not watched Oswego all year but from watching this game, it was hard for me to believe that no one was able to beat them until tonight.

I know the backup goalie was in for Oswego and that he was playing back to back nights against Utica and Hobart, I don't know if the starter for Oswego was out or giving him a rest heading into break. But if the backup is in, they are in big trouble. He had trouble controlling rebounds and the score could have been a lot worse if Hobart was able to take advantage by crashing the net hard on them. We will have to see what happens with Hamilton on the 30th and a potential rematch with Hobart on the 31st.

I am not sure what happened after the game but from reports I got from several people was that Coach Taylor was not happy with Gosek and how he allowed his players to play so recklessly including the fact that one of his players got kicked out for the hit with 5 minutes left in the game.

 

[#1Hobartfan]

Re: Setting Sail - Oswego State Lakers 2010-2011 Season Thread

The crowd is pretty sedate, although my loud mouth yells the entire game!

 

[#1Hobartfan]

Re: Setting Sail - Oswego State Lakers 2010-2011 Season Thread

This was the best hockey Hobart has played since their frozen four loss vs. Neuman. Oswego is the team to beat and Hobart came out to do just that. It's always the way when you're the #1 team. It also stands to reason that Oswego was a bit "chippy" not "dirty"; they aren't accustomed to being on the losing end of the stick. The penalties 7 Oswego to Hobart 10 was actually pretty even, given the last three penalties Oswego took were the last minutes with one 5 min maj that was truly out of line. The one thing Hobart has struggled with is shooting the puck -- tonight they were doing that with the one thought of beating this team; although catching those rebounds left in front would make me happy! As far as the fans, I would agree, our fans are sedate. My husband would be happy to hear that you aren't all posting "how loud the chic at the end of the ice is" for Hobart. It was a good game, well-played by Hobart. Now Bart is the team that has to be on the "shtick" b/c when we play again the 'A' goalie will be in and Oswego will be out for revenge! Good posts.

 

[Laker28]

Re: Setting Sail - Oswego State Lakers 2010-2011 Season Thread

The two posters talking about the 5 Minute major to Mather, I agree it was completely wreckless and uncalled for, he should sit the next game or two because this is his second major in the last three games.

As for the hit by Huinink in the corner that left the Hobart player down for a minute or two, it was a simple push with the arm that the Hobart player dove into the boards and hit his head on the dasher on the way down. A nearly identical play happened in the Utica game the night before but Moodie was called on that one.

 

[PrezdeJohnson09]

Re: Setting Sail - Oswego State Lakers 2010-2011 Season Thread

If it's any consolation Oswego fans, atleast you got to hear Brass Bonanza five times last night. That's a win in itself

 

[Laker28]

Re: Setting Sail - Oswego State Lakers 2010-2011 Season Thread

If it's any consolation Oswego fans, atleast you got to hear Brass Bonanza five times last night. That's a win in itself

Oh that certainly was a plus, I thought I was at a Hartford Whalers game for a minute there.

I also want to give a little props, to a player I know you love Prez, and that is Joe Hall. He has never played goal before but he volunteered to be the backup and he stood in there and took some punishment with a smile on his face. That is the kind of guy that every team needs, a guy that is just happy to be on the team, works hard and accepts his fate that he is playing second fiddle to more talented players. Watching him in warm ups before the game was really the only highlight of the night. When Beckwith is back and healthy or they at least have two solid goalies, then he should get some PT as a skater for taking one for the team.

 

[OSU2010]

Re: Setting Sail - Oswego State Lakers 2010-2011 Season Thread

I'm probably spoiled with the CC, but I was surprised how small their rink was.

 

[LakerEagleLover]

Re: Setting Sail - Oswego State Lakers 2010-2011 Season Thread

As far as the fans, I would agree, our fans are sedate. My husband would be happy to hear that you aren't all posting "how loud the chic at the end of the ice is" for Hobart. It was a good game, well-played by Hobart.

You are welcome at the Campus Center anytime...we dig loud chicks...but leave the husband home...

 

[PrezdeJohnson09]

Re: Setting Sail - Oswego State Lakers 2010-2011 Season Thread

Oh that certainly was a plus, I thought I was at a Hartford Whalers game for a minute there.

I also want to give a little props, to a player I know you love Prez, and that is Joe Hall. He has never played goal before but he volunteered to be the backup and he stood in there and took some punishment with a smile on his face. Watching him in warmups before the game was really the only highlight of the night.

Hallsy is a good guy. It's too bad he was never able to translate his junior talents over to the D-III level. He's got a great set of hands and awesome snipe, just never had the legs and speed to break into Coach Gosek's lineup on a consistent basis.

It's too bad. I still remember the snipe he had in a game his freshman season at the CC. Took the puck by the halfboards above the circle and just unleashed a nasty wrister that went upper-90 far post that the goalie never saw. I wish I could remember who it was against. It was a beauty though.

EDIT: I think it was against Potsdam or Morrisville.

 

[PrezdeJohnson09]

Re: Setting Sail - Oswego State Lakers 2010-2011 Season Thread

I'm probably spoiled with the CC, but I was surprised how small their rink was.

You should have seen it a couple years ago when it didn't have four walls.

 

[Laker28]

Re: Setting Sail - Oswego State Lakers 2010-2011 Season Thread

I still remember the snipe he had in a game his freshman season at the CC. Took the puck by the halfboards above the circle and just unleashed a nasty wrister that went upper-90 far post that the goalie never saw. I wish I could remember who it was against. It was a beauty though.

That was against Potsdam and he also scored a beauty on a 2 on 1 against Morrisville that year as well, a rocket of a slapshot, top corner.