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Serious Ideas to Improve College Hockey

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What changes would you make to college hockey to improve the product?

2. Move the start of the college season back to Nov. 1. The season is too long right now. Get rid of the bye weeks and keep the same number of games.

I like the theory behind this, but I'm not sure about the execution. I think you need a couple of bye weeks for scheduling flexibility and general rest. I also don't see how you can realistically shorten winter break for most schools, between the holidays, final exams, and kids away for the WJC.

It would be nice for teams to have a week or two of practice before launching into games, however.

4. Reduce the number of conference games by four, thus opening up more inter-league play, which will help create less insualr schedules and a more representative NCAA tourney selection.

Love this idea, but as Ralph notes - we must put it in absolute terms. Cap conference schedules at 24 games max. That leaves non-Ivy teams with 10 OOC games to schedule (12 for teams with an Alaska trip)

5. While we’re on the subject of the NCAA tourney, I’d get rid of PWR and adopt KRACH as the team selection numerical reference. It’s just a better mousetrap.

Oh yeah.

9. Speaking of harmonizing, I would push for a deal where the NHL would contribute up-and-coming young officials to college hockey as part of their officiating development programs, as I believe they already do with Major Junior Hockey.

I think this is a great idea, but I'd just settle for more harmony with the conferences, yet alone within the larger pool of hockey leagues.

Would it be possible/desirable to take the officiating out of the conference's control and have one national body governing it?
 
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To be fair, while that's what ESPN originally stood for, it no longer is considered to refer to the acronym. They're just ESPN.

yeah i my joke didnt work without stating the old acronym.
the point is ESPN doesnt care about professional or college hockey!!

Its hard to get exposure and grow the sport when casual sports fans are disconnected from the sport. think about all the stories on ESPN right now: College football, pre-season NFL, baseball, and some soccer and general sports highlights. There's no mention of any college hky news, ie BGSU back in the right direction UAH problems, coaching changes, etc...

some of the posts have great ideas but until college hky has more media exposure casual sports fans wont pay much attention to it till the frozen four... despite being a revenue sport at the schools its given attention on tv as one of the supplemental non-revenue sports on campus.
 
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Im not too concerned with the 'clutch and grab'. Hockey is a game of skating, sure, but also of strength and conditioning. C&G has been around too long to put the genie back in that bottle.

I disagree with the shorter season idea for selfish reasons. From April to October, I daydream about the coming season. I think that if these players have any inkling to go to the next level, longer season is necessary.

I totally agree with the visor idea. When I coached youth hockey, we had a meeting with some of tUMD staff regarding injuries. They had research that showed that after the implementation of the full cage rule, injuries went up, not down. Credited it to the increased 'confidence' that players had due to more armor. How did the players 50 years ago do it with leather helmets(maybe), newspaper shin pads, and wood sticks??? Technology isnt always a good thing. Take the full cage away.

I would like to see more NC games, adds a little spice to the season.

And I say open the borders for the Canadian teams. People are right, Canada is a hockey-crazed country and their players are top notch. Opening the border would increase the competition nationwide (and put the pompous goofers at a disadvantage).

And YES, do away with the Olympic ice!!! talk about boring!!! give me a smaller sheet where the players can actually get to one another without an overnight trip and Im there!!! Let the Europeans have it, we want NHL sized ice!!!

Free beer is always good.

How about shrinking up the outfits the cheerleaders wear??? Maybe D-1 Hockey needs to be more like the St. Paul Saints minor baseball organization - More entertainment for your $$$. Good hockey, Shock and Awe(the Ralph) and fun will sell tickets.

thats all

stev
 
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A longer season will not happen. Hockey is already one of the longest seasons in the NCAA for games played (and the longest in terms of calendar duration). It will not be extended.

Ice size is also a non-starter. Universities are not going to change their rinks. Hell, if the freaking Winter Olympics isn't going to change ice sizes to meet the rules, college hockey sure isn't going to either. Besides, I like the variety between rinks - having some big sheets and some small sheets is fun.

"getting more media exposure" isn't exactly something college hockey can just change. Swami's idea of aggregating all available video and audio feeds is probably the best that college hockey, as a group, can do - lower the barriers to accessing that content. But you can't just make ESPN cover college hockey.
 
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"getting more media exposure" isn't exactly something college hockey can just change. Swami's idea of aggregating all available video and audio feeds is probably the best that college hockey, as a group, can do - lower the barriers to accessing that content. But you can't just make ESPN cover college hockey.

Agreed. And I don't know that you'd want ESPN to cover it anyway. This gets back to the Vs/ESPN argument in the NHL thread: would you rather have (relatively) quality coverage that fewer people can get to but is still very much focused on your sport, or do you want to start subjecting your school to having games start at 9 pm on Tuesday just so you can be on a channel that will cut away to a mini-sportscenter at a moment's notice?

Considering the footprint that Vs. has compared to College Hockey's footprint and the "primetime" aspect, I'd think that that would be a better channel to target anyway. That or we could see if USA wants to get more sports... but that's a non-starter. College hockey as a whole can't do too much to control which networks pick up games.
 
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I like the Olympic Ice Sheet size. The more room you have out there, the more speed and skating skill will highlighted. I understand this is not realistic to implement, but, IMHO, I think ALL hockey should be played on that size of sheet.

Conferences should be based solely on geography. Less travel for fans and teams is a bonus.

Maximum of 8 teams in a conference. This would lead to more n/c games.

All teams should play the same amount of games.

Do not allow the Canadian College teams to get into the NCAA. That would hurt the quality of players the US universities will land. Plus the NCAA is an American institution.

It would be great to have more games on tv, even on a tape delay basis.
 
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The best way to improve men's college hockey is to get rid of Title IX, or at least have the supreme court get rid of the quota system it has become. [/url]

Another aspect of this is change the number of scholarships football gets. Even at the level formerly known a I-AA it is like 75 scholarships. Thats 2 deep at each position plus 9 more players.

Mean while hockey gets 18, plays 19 and dresses 20.
 
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With college hockey's poor media draw nationwide perhaps very little will ever happen in terms of expanding television coverage ($$$). Moreover, the NCAA is notorious for moving very slowly with any modifications or changes to college sports in general, except if someone is seriously injured (i.e. netting) or when it comes to issues involving a revenue stream.;) Even when considering online broadcasts there are often revenue conflicts with existing broadcast rights.
 
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1. Make major junior players who have played less than 20 MJ games eligible for college hockey. 95% percent of MJ players play for stipends far below the value of the financial aid college players get. Opening up the game would give more players and coaches more player development options, and I think it would improve access to talent.
I think a lot of Presidents would have a problem with the amateurism aspect, though I'm not sure I necessarily disagree with the idea. You may be opening a can of worms across other sports.
2. Move the start of the college season back to Nov. 1. The season is too long right now. Get rid of the bye weeks and keep the same number of games.
I think this is very likely to happen. Division II is cutting seasons, both date and game wise, across the board, and it wouldn't shock me to see Division I do something similar.
3. Allow players to choose visors instead of full face masks. This would reduce stickwork and “cage courage” and allow a greater emphasis on skills.
I think this will meet with heavy resistance due to liability concerns.

And I thought this was a topic for May, not September. ;)
4. Reduce the number of conference games by four, thus opening up more inter-league play, which will help create less insualr schedules and a more representative NCAA tourney selection.
Perhaps the CHA would still be around...
5. While we’re on the subject of the NCAA tourney, I’d get rid of PWR and adopt KRACH as the team selection numerical reference. It’s just a better mousetrap.
I think this would simply be a matter of convincing the Division I Men's Ice Hockey Selection Committee that it would be a good idea. Members are printed in the championship handbooks, which are freely available at ncaa.org.
6. I would like to see one of the national college hockey web sites become an aggregator of internet video feeds of games around the country into a single “dashboard” – allowing fans to pay a season, monthly or daily fee to watch many college games in one place. The schools would get a cut of the money for providing the feed, and the national site could keep the rest of the money to support their operations.
It would also require B2, Penn Atlantic, etc. to all play nice with each other. Easier said than done.
8. Harmonize instant replay and clock standards (e.g. displaying tenths of seconds) at all D-I schools. This might be a little expensive, but it’s not good to have differing standards.
The NCAA did this with basketball regarding tenths on all clocks and game clocks visible on all shot clocks across the divisions. A matter for the Men's and Women's Ice Hockey Rules Committee (membership available at ncaa.org).
9. Speaking of harmonizing, I would push for a deal where the NHL would contribute up-and-coming young officials to college hockey as part of their officiating development programs, as I believe they already do with Major Junior Hockey.
Certainly something that could be done on a league-by-league basis, as five of the six conferences hire their own officials.
10. Increase roster size to 30 players, and push the NCAA to get back to 20 scholarships per team as it was prior to the cut to 18. Teams need more depth due to the nature of the game and the length of the season.
The NCAA does not cap roster sizes outside of NCAA Tournament play. Now, active players available for each individual game is a different story, and you can already dress 23-24 (a fifth line, essentially) for exhibitions.
What changes would you like to see? (serious ideas preferred...)

More teams is always better. If Division I shrinks too much more the championship as we know it could be lost altogether. Bylaw 18.2.3 requires 40 teams as a minimum for a divisional championship. Then the question would be whether or not to just axe the championship at the divisional level or neuter Division III ice hockey completely by merging into a national collegiate championship.

Consider that if all the Non-D1 schools returned to their native divisions, we have 36 full Division I schools playing ice hockey, and let that marinate for a minute.

I'm sure I have more, but duty calls.
 
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I like the Olympic Ice Sheet size. The more room you have out there, the more speed and skating skill will highlighted. I understand this is not realistic to implement, but, IMHO, I think ALL hockey should be played on that size of sheet.

That is my point. (Acknowledging it isn't going to happen) If a team always practices on big ice and "clutch and grab' is called, they will know how to use the big ice. To say that it is boring because some all-star teams thrown together at the last minute (current Olympics) of players who don't get a chance to play together and aren't used to playing a weaving open-ice puck-control game is not an accurate assessment of what a game played on Olympic sized ice can be. I personally think that watching those Pre-professional (I know CCCP and others weren't truly amateurs...) Olympic games in the 80's, with teams that practiced together for a year or longer, was some of the best hockey I've watched in my life.

I think I would become a regular NHL watcher if they played on Olympic ice.

And plans to shrink current Olympic rinks just might have a little to do with NCAA recommendations to make them all NHL sized and the small matter of having more seats to sell, as well.

(Shrinking the cheerleader outfits could make me forget about big ice though.)
 
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Do not allow the Canadian College teams to get into the NCAA. That would hurt the quality of players the US universities will land. Plus the NCAA is an American institution.

Too late.

I expect more than a few Canadian institutions to try and enter the process when Division I lifts its moratorium.
 
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I like 1, 3, 5, 9, and 10.

1. Why punish a guy for finding out MJ isn't his thing and he wants and education? Isn't the NCAA about the student-athlete? </cynicism>

3. It makes no sense to go from full cage, to visor, to full cage (college), to the professional ranks. How about a logical progression instead.

9. Mentioning logical progression, how about the same for officials moving up through the ranks.

However, 2 would be too difficult on the players, even with 10. 4 would make the grousing about who's coming to your rink each season even worse. 6 would be revenue-negative for some: no go.
 
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Another aspect of this is change the number of scholarships football gets. Even at the level formerly known a I-AA it is like 75 scholarships. Thats 2 deep at each position plus 9 more players.

Mean while hockey gets 18, plays 19 and dresses 20.

The FCS (formerly DI-AA) number is 63.
The FBS (formerly DI-A) number is 85.
The DII number is 36.
 
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The FCS (formerly DI-AA) number is 63.
The FBS (formerly DI-A) number is 85.
The DII number is 36.

A fairer comparison is to baseball, which gets 11.7 "equivilancies" to split among a maximum of 27 "counters" in Division I.

Football is a "counter" sport, such that if a player gets even $1 in athletically related financial aid, he counts as one of the 85/63/36
 
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Not allowing an alumni of a school to referee his own school's game. Seriously, it shouldn't be that hard to prevent.

I believe that this is a "policy" in a few leagues already... Are you citing any examples?
 
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the point is ESPN doesnt care about professional or college hockey!!

Is there any real reason that it should? Most college hockey games are played in prime time on Friday and Saturday nights. Do you think there is any chance a college hockey game of the week could be more profitable than what already airs?
 
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Conferences should be based solely on geography. Less travel for fans and teams is a bonus.
Yeah, because the conferences as they stand right now clearly aren't based on geography at all.

Maximum of 8 teams in a conference. This would lead to more n/c games.
Or you could just get conferences to make it a two-game round robin format. The ECAC already does this, and it works just fine for most basketball conferences.

All teams should play the same amount of games.
Good luck getting the Ivy League to agree to that.

Do not allow the Canadian College teams to get into the NCAA. That would hurt the quality of players the US universities will land. Plus the NCAA is an American institution.
Yay protectionism.[/sarcasm]

In short, a hearty nay to all of those.
 
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