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Serious Ideas to Improve College Hockey

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ExileOnDaytonStreet said:
I don't get The Modern Idiot's obsession with ties being the bane of our existence. It's not nearly as bad in the hockey world as it is in the football world, where the Apocalypse began when Philly tied Cincinatti last year.

Is it really so hard to accept that sometimes, for just one night, two teams are equal to each other?

Its this level brainpower that allows us to live in a world where Budweiser makes a **** load of money.
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****ed right about the ties...although I would add Miller products to the list too...I want to make millions selling **** water :D
 
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Do not acknowledge any verbal commitment from any player who has not completed his Junior year of high school. Do as much as possible to discourage unofficial recruiting of players before that same point. Let the kids mature more before pushing them into making a college choice.
 
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I know most people out there are against the Ford Field Frozen Four, as am I on principle. In reality this is a chance to make noise that Hockey can be on the same level as College Basketball and Football when it comes to the championship. Filling a building as large as Ford Field would probably grab the attention of many schools who currently don't field a hockey team and cause them to sit down and consider starting a team up.
 
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Flashy Man said:
I know most people out there are against the Ford Field Frozen Four, as am I on principle. In reality this is a chance to make noise that Hockey can be on the same level as College Basketball and Football when it comes to the championship. Filling a building as large as Ford Field would probably grab the attention of many schools who currently don't field a hockey team and cause them to sit down and consider starting a team up.
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While I like the idea of a bigger arena for the F4, there is such a thing at this time as TOO big. Many have mentioned (and rightly so) that an empty arena on TV is not good for the sport.

Maybe instead of finding a place that could seat 65K or whatever, go for a 40K or so. That way, there's a chance it will fill up, and then maybe in a couple years, work your way up to the bigger building.

Or maybe hold it outdoors. :eek: Kidding. But that would be kinda cool.
 
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Flashy Man said:
I know most people out there are against the Ford Field Frozen Four, as am I on principle. In reality this is a chance to make noise that Hockey can be on the same level as College Basketball and Football when it comes to the championship. Filling a building as large as Ford Field would probably grab the attention of many schools who currently don't field a hockey team and cause them to sit down and consider starting a team up.
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Agree, as distasteful as it might be for some people to watch the game in a football stadium with what most likely is going to have terrieble sight lines for those in the seats, having some 50,000+ people there for the Semifinals and perhaps 55,000+ for the championship, thats going to get a few people talking about college hockey.
 
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Handyman said:
****ed right about the ties...although I would add Miller products to the list too...I want to make millions selling **** water :D
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Milwaukee's Best (easily Miller's worst product) is a very ironically named beer, considering that its the worst beer made in this town.

But even then, its not fair to put in the same category as Budweiser. Not until they start using rice malts.

I know that you're mostly snarking here... but I gotta make sure I'm clear on this one: no beer deserves to be compared to Budweiser, because anything that is actually a beer can possibly be as bad as Bud.
 
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ExileOnDaytonStreet said:
Milwaukee's Best (easily Miller's worst product) is a very ironically named beer, considering that its the worst beer made in this town.

But even then, its not fair to put in the same category as Budweiser. Not until they start using rice malts.

I know that you're mostly snarking here... but I gotta make sure I'm clear on this one: no beer deserves to be compared to Budweiser, because anything that is actually a beer can possibly be as bad as Bud.
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Bud > anything Miller. Espeically High Life. Then again, Bud Light < anything on this earth.
 
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Since we're talking about beer, can anyone tell me why in the hell they don't sell Michelob Golden Light outside the Midwest, specifically Minnesota and the Dakotas? I cannot understand this. The Silver Bullet just isn't as refreshing, and I happen to hate both Miller and Bud Light.
 
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ExileOnDaytonStreet said:
I oughtta put you on ignore...

And believe me, that's not out of any love towards Miller.
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Bud is a sentimental fave. Nothing more, nothing less.


HoosierBBall_GopherHockey said:
Since we're talking about beer, can anyone tell me why in the hell they don't sell Michelob Golden Light outside the Midwest, specifically Minnesota and the Dakotas? I cannot understand this. The Silver Bullet just isn't as refreshing, and I happen to hate both Miller and Bud Light.
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They sell Mich Golden Light in 5 states, from what I know: MN, WI, ND, SD, IA. That is because Miller Lite sells more than Bud Light in those states. So Mich Golden Light is sold only in those states. And it works.

Although, due to a brief 'net search:

At this time, Michelob Golden Draft and Michelob Golden Draft Light are only available in select areas of Wisconsin, Minnesota, South Dakota, North Dakota, Michigan, Illinois, Iowa and Nebraska. At this time we do not have any information about a possible expansion of Michelob Golden Draft or Michelob Golden Draft Light to Missouri. We sincerely apologize if this causes you any disappointment.
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But that doesn't separate Mich Golden and Mich Golden Light.
 
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After the Great Britain Beer Festival, in London, all the brewery presidents decided to go out for a beer.
The guy from Corona sits down and says, "Hey Senor, I would like the world's best beer, a Corona." The bartender dusts off a bottle from the shelf and gives it to him.
The guy from Budweiser says, "I'd like the best beer in the world, give me 'The King Of Beers', a Budweiser." The bartender gives him one.
The guy from Coors says, "I'd like the only beer made with Rocky Mountain spring water, give me a Coors." He gets it.
The guy from Guinness sits down and says, "Give me a Coke." The bartender is a little taken aback, but gives him what he ordered.
The other brewery presidents look over at him and ask "Why aren't you drinking a Guinness?" and the Guinness president replies, "Well, I figured if you guys aren't drinking beer, neither would I."
 
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A lot of good suggestions out there.

Mine's a little simpler, IMHO.

A single refereing standard and probably a single ref pool to choose from. Naturally, there will be regional refs, but to have "conference" refs seems to cause more trouble come tournament time than not.

If the refs were all judged based on the entire pool vs. a conference, and were told as an entire pool what IS and what IS NOT a penalty, I think a lot of us would be happier.

For that matter, a single national standard for rules would be nice, too. Shoot outs nationally or NOT (ties are just fine with me); emphasis on a particular penlaty nationally instead of a handful of games.

Single enforecement standard, single set of rules, national pool of refs and linesmen.
 
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Brenthoven said:
Bud is a sentimental fave. Nothing more, nothing less.




They sell Mich Golden Light in 5 states, from what I know: MN, WI, ND, SD, IA. That is because Miller Lite sells more than Bud Light in those states. So Mich Golden Light is sold only in those states. And it works.

Although, due to a brief 'net search:



But that doesn't separate Mich Golden and Mich Golden Light.
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We asked someone from Budweiser about this when we were in St. Louis for the frozen 4, he said that Mich Golden is better than Bud Light, and that it would probably end up selling more than Bud Light, but Anheiser Busch wouldn't allow a Michelob branded product to outsell a Budweiser product. So they limit Mich Golden to the upper midwest. Not sure how true that is, or if this guy was just blowing smoke up our asses, but interesting regardless.
 
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bigblue_dl said:
We asked someone from Budweiser about this when we were in St. Louis for the frozen 4, he said that Mich Golden is better than Bud Light, and that it would probably end up selling more than Bud Light, but Anheiser Busch wouldn't allow a Michelob branded product to outsell a Budweiser product. So they limit Mich Golden to the upper midwest. Not sure how true that is, or if this guy was just blowing smoke up our asses, but interesting regardless.
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I'd believe it in a heartbeat.
 
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- going back to the Swami's original post, I think easing up on the Major Junior eligibility could improve the quality of players in the NCAA, while hurting the CIS at the same time (good CIS teams have a core of Major Junior graduates). For their part the CIS now allows kids who dabbled in the pros, as long as they are 21 or younger, to enter CIS hockey without penalty. It is a "second chance" rule that allows the kid to play his over-age year in junior (20) and then start the fall in the minor pros, say the ECHL, and then after Christmas see the light after all the bus trips and enroll in school and start playing CIS hockey right away, without losing any eligibility (other than the pre-Christmas term).

- I don't agree with increasing roster sizes. If anything, make them smaller, like the minor pro leagues. At least one CIS coach has told me he would like to see smaller rosters in Canada: a shorter bench means more ice-time per player and therefore a happier player (who is seeing his games player really reduced from Junior) who gets more development. It also means fewer scholarships to try to find the money for, and fewer hotel rooms and meals on the road.

- Visors. Two of the three CIS conferences (Canada West and AUS) have been using visors for a long time. There is noticeably less stick work than in the OUA, and is readily apparent when CW and AUS teams play OUA teams, or NCAA teams for that matter.

- Clock. All CIS conferences (I believe) use the tenths of second in the last minute. All have overtime (10 minutes in the AUS) and all follow that with a shoot-out. Not a bad thing for the NCAA to standardize on ... for the regular season as there no longer any ties.
 
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FreddyFoyle said:
All have overtime (10 minutes in the AUS) and all follow that with a shoot-out. Not a bad thing for the NCAA to standardize on ... for the regular season as there no longer any ties.
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It's not by NCAA standardizing, but all NCAA hockey games have over time. All NCAA hockey games can end in a tie, as far as PWR, RPI and KRACH are concerned. The only variant is that one conference (CCHA) is so desperate for short attention span morons to attend their games that they've added the shootout so that their tie games also have a bonus point in the conference standings, creating an illusion that they didn't just see a tie game.
 
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Bill said:
Do not acknowledge any verbal commitment from any player who has not completed his Junior year of high school. Do as much as possible to discourage unofficial recruiting of players before that same point. Let the kids mature more before pushing them into making a college choice.
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The kids aren't the ones that need to be reined in as much as the parents. They are the idiots that push the kids before they are in kindergarden and position them when they are in mites to 'be seen'. Do this and the parents will howl in protest. That said I think this is my favorite idea on the thread so far.
 
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