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Season 95, Vol 2: Michigan Tech '15-'16

Re: Season 95, Vol 2: Michigan Tech '15-'16

To answer the first question asked of Mel, would flipping any of our losses to wins have gotten MTU into the tournament...the answer is yes, if MTU had won the GLI or split with UAA, MTU would be dancing right now...granted, that might have changed the effort from UMD against SCSU in the title game, but those are the facts.
 
Re: Season 95, Vol 2: Michigan Tech '15-'16

Mel's quotes in Detroit Free Press.
http://www.freep.com/story/sports/c...ney-field-set-u-m-ferris-state-fold/82047266/

Michigan Tech (23-9-5) finished the season with just two losses since January, but was hurt by its non-conference play.

Michigan Tech coach Mel Pearson said he’d like to see the NCAA consider a play-in game. With six automatic bids awarded to conference tournament champions, it leaves 10 spots for at-large berths.

“We knew we probably had to win,” Pearson said. “You don’t want to leave anything for chance. Unfortunately, we ran into a team who was a little more desperate than we were and played really well defensively.

“It’s still frustrating because I think we were eighth in the country in winning percentage. Top 10 in goals for, top 10 defense, top 10 power play, goal margin. Any way you slice it we’ve had a really good year.”
 
Re: Season 95, Vol 2: Michigan Tech '15-'16

Well, Mel's on the committee so at least his idea will get a voice at the table.

Given that the NCAA bouncy ball tourney feels the need to let in another four teams to make it "fair"* and prevent more woodwind players from crying (and maybe another 60 teams if they have their way), I don't see any reason why college hockey couldn't be expanded to 20 teams with 13-20 having a play-in game Thursday night. It could make for a three game weekend if you win them all, but that's no different than a conference round one playoff weekend with three games in three days. If you don't want to play the extra game, be a top 12 team.

If the tourney were to be expanded in some way, I think that also needs to include autobids for conference regular season champs as well. I really think that only takes away one at large bid as the Atlantic Hockey regular season champ is rarely a top 16 team. What happened to the WCHA this season I think would be rarely repeated. When was the last time the WCHA regular season champ didn't make the field? 1993-94? The same could be asked for the ECAC as well. I'm sure it would also be a pretty rare event. However one could argue that 33% of the teams making the tourney might be a bit high. Currently bouncy ball takes about 20% to the tourney and football takes less than 10%.
Ryan J

* PS - If anyone wants to explain to me why 2 of the NCAA play-in game are the #11 seeds, please do so. I watch zero bouncy ball but my engineering mind can't understand why a play in team gets seeded in the middle of the bracket.
 
Re: Season 95, Vol 2: Michigan Tech '15-'16

Well, Mel's on the committee so at least his idea will get a voice at the table.

Given that the NCAA bouncy ball tourney feels the need to let in another four teams to make it "fair"* and prevent more woodwind players from crying (and maybe another 60 teams if they have their way), I don't see any reason why college hockey couldn't be expanded to 20 teams with 13-20 having a play-in game Thursday night. It could make for a three game weekend if you win them all, but that's no different than a conference round one playoff weekend with three games in three days. If you don't want to play the extra game, be a top 12 team.

If the tourney were to be expanded in some way, I think that also needs to include autobids for conference regular season champs as well. I really think that only takes away one at large bid as the Atlantic Hockey regular season champ is rarely a top 16 team. What happened to the WCHA this season I think would be rarely repeated. When was the last time the WCHA regular season champ didn't make the field? 1993-94? The same could be asked for the ECAC as well. I'm sure it would also be a pretty rare event. However one could argue that 33% of the teams making the tourney might be a bit high. Currently bouncy ball takes about 20% to the tourney and football takes less than 10%.
Ryan J

* PS - If anyone wants to explain to me why 2 of the NCAA play-in game are the #11 seeds, please do so. I watch zero bouncy ball but my engineering mind can't understand why a play in team gets seeded in the middle of the bracket.

The answer to your question in the PS in that most of the 12-16 teams are auto bid teams from small conferences that would not have been there otherwise and only got in because of the autobid. Let's compare to hockey, Ferris got the WCHA autobid, Tech was better, so if there was a play in Tech could be playing another team better than Ferris for a 3 seed since they are both better than Ferris and Ferris is only there because of the autobid and gets the 4 seed.
 
Re: Season 95, Vol 2: Michigan Tech '15-'16

* PS - If anyone wants to explain to me why 2 of the NCAA play-in game are the #11 seeds, please do so. I watch zero bouncy ball but my engineering mind can't understand why a play in team gets seeded in the middle of the bracket.

The logic behind it is that the play-in games for the 11 seeds are the "last four in" as at-large bids. If you notice, all the 12-16 seeds are autobids from mid-major/low-major conferences.

I don't necessarily agree with doing it this way, but the idea is that it's not just autobid teams in the play-in games but also the theoretically weakest at-larges. To analogize with this year's hockey bracket, it's like if there was a play-in between Cornell and Michigan Tech for the #15 overall seed (because in the analogy, Ferris State and RIT would also play-in for the #16, opening up an at-large spot).
 
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Re: Season 95, Vol 2: Michigan Tech '15-'16

Well, Mel's on the committee so at least his idea will get a voice at the table.

Given that the NCAA bouncy ball tourney feels the need to let in another four teams to make it "fair"* and prevent more woodwind players from crying (and maybe another 60 teams if they have their way), I don't see any reason why college hockey couldn't be expanded to 20 teams with 13-20 having a play-in game Thursday night. It could make for a three game weekend if you win them all, but that's no different than a conference round one playoff weekend with three games in three days. If you don't want to play the extra game, be a top 12 team.

If the tourney were to be expanded in some way, I think that also needs to include autobids for conference regular season champs as well. I really think that only takes away one at large bid as the Atlantic Hockey regular season champ is rarely a top 16 team. What happened to the WCHA this season I think would be rarely repeated. When was the last time the WCHA regular season champ didn't make the field? 1993-94? The same could be asked for the ECAC as well. I'm sure it would also be a pretty rare event. However one could argue that 33% of the teams making the tourney might be a bit high. Currently bouncy ball takes about 20% to the tourney and football takes less than 10%.
Ryan J

* PS - If anyone wants to explain to me why 2 of the NCAA play-in game are the #11 seeds, please do so. I watch zero bouncy ball but my engineering mind can't understand why a play in team gets seeded in the middle of the bracket.

Basketball has 2 play-in games for the 4 lowest at-large teams (the 11-seeds this year) and 2 play-in games for the 4 lowest autobid teams (the 16-seeds this year).
 
* PS - If anyone wants to explain to me why 2 of the NCAA play-in game are the #11 seeds, please do so. I watch zero bouncy ball but my engineering mind can't understand why a play in team gets seeded in the middle of the bracket.

Compromise- Big schools wanted more teams in, because if you want the best 64, isn't it obvious that any Big 10 school can beat an automatic qualifier like Middle Tennessee State? The smaller schools said, "Earn your way in. Win something." As a compromise, the NCAA decided to expand the field, but making some play their way in. Those #11 games are set aside for at-large teams, the #16 games for low rates AQs
 
Re: Season 95, Vol 2: Michigan Tech '15-'16

Also, I highly doubt Mel's idea gets any traction because it really only helps WCHA/AHA. And then, who gets the WCHA autobid this year? MTU because of a tiebreaker? Also, Hockey already has the largest percentage of teams make the tournament at 16/60 (26.7%). I believe basketball is 2nd with (19.4%). I guess the other question is the autobid ratio...The main reason basketball expanded to 68 was because of the creation of more conferences...College Basketball has 47% of bids go to AQs while hockey has 37.5%.
 
Re: Season 95, Vol 2: Michigan Tech '15-'16

Tried to shorten my Mel P show notes, but there's a lot of content. Listen to the podcast once it's posted.

Biggest takeaways for me. Tourney for next year (Mariucci classic?) has fallen through. And Vallis stills has eligibility left and they want him back.

Mel P show notes:
Rewatched the game last night, hard to watch, didn't play poor, but they played with a litte more urgency
There was a lot of little puck battles along the boards we lost, and thus chasing the puck
Faceoffs a little in Ferris favor, some key faceoffs lost
It's tough when you have to win your tournament to get in, only 1 of 7 regular season champs won their playoffs, Quinnipiac

Real scary situation with ref, Butch, great guy and ref
Mel doesn't usually go on bench pregame, but did and a few Tech guys were waving help over to Butch
Hit his head pretty hard, players were shaken up

Outpouring of support has been fantastic, from all over, all ages, we want to be back in the NCAA conversation, league championships
We've brought the program to a certain point, next step is hardest, to get in tourney regularly and then dance in the tournament

Harder to swallow when you're the bubble team, can't count on other teams winning/losing
When's last time we only lost 9 games
Disappointment is still there, but have to reflect and build on all good things going on

Do you think next years team will be as good?
Yes, Jamie was excellent, like Pheonix was, but like all of our goaltenders. Any of the three could've played.
Not scheduled to lose any Dmen that played against Ferris. Plus a couple good ones coming in.
Will miss some scoring, but wasn't sure coming into the year, L'Esperance, Heinonen, Baltus, Luchini all contributed
Jake Jackson/Blacklock/E. Anderson can all play

Will B1G teams ever stop requiring 2 for 1 deals?
Yes, we have a 1 for 1 right now. Still more shifts coming up with college hockey.
Everyone is looking at western tourney attendance. There will be things going on. Plus ASU comign on.
B1G has to play home games in their big building, dollars.

Do you see the field being expanded at all?
Talked to Detroit Free Press yesterday. We're 8th in Win%, top 10 in offense, defense, scoring margain, 11th PP. Pretty good team, but not in it.
Mel starting to look at more of a possible play in game. Not sure on logistics, 1 or 2 play-in games. Especially when you're kicking out some good teams.
6 auto-qualifiers out of 16 is a lot.

Why is hockey the only formula based selection?
In the past there's been other questions about why this team vs another. PWR does provide clarity.
We knew going in that we were on the bubble. We needed to win at least 1, probably 2. Rather have it that way than not sure.
The bonus points for top 20 team, we did not have opportunities. We were lowest bonus points in top 35 teams in country. Every night NCHC/Hockey East bonus points.
Our conference records vs. NCHC teams too.

Heartfelt thank you to fans, alumni, great turnout in Grand Rapids, we had more fans than Ferris.

What were ice conditions? The worst all year. Not good, but both teams play on it.

Non conference for next season?
GLI, early Oct at Michigan, Nov at Michigan State
We had a tournament all arranged, that fell through 2 weeks ago. Trying to get a deal with a team that was supposed to be in the tournament, Mel will talk to them today.
We're talking to a few teams, dates aren't working out. No agreement with LSSU at this point, but possible.

Any NHL flight risks?
Always have players with the opportunity. Our teams was followed by NHL scouts. We have free agents.
Never though JJ would leave, or Pheonix after sophomore year.
We have our scheduled meetings with all our players to see where they're at.
Not sure we have anyone that's ready for NHL or AHL yet.

Seniors, it'll be exciting. They're ready for their next adventure.
Jamie is drafted my Winnipeg. They were here several times.
A few teams have shown interest in Petan. Play in AHL or ECHL.
Gould will have a chance too.
Patrick will come back and work on his engineering.
Jimmy want to be a strength/conditioning trainer, could help with that next year to get foot in the door in profession.
Hyland has a job lined up for May if he wants to do that.
Vallis, has a year of eligibility if he wants it. Would like him back and will talk to him about that.
 
Re: Season 95, Vol 2: Michigan Tech '15-'16

And Vallis stills has eligibility left and they want him back.

Yay!



Also it sounds like a UMD-MTU non-conference series isn't working out. Boourns. This year was the first year those teams haven't played each other since the late 50's/early 60's.
 
Re: Season 95, Vol 2: Michigan Tech '15-'16

Yay!

Also it sounds like a UMD-MTU non-conference series isn't working out. Boourns. This year was the first year those teams haven't played each other since the late 50's/early 60's.
As far as I know, it sounds like there are hopes to restart it after the year with the icebreaker.
 
Re: Season 95, Vol 2: Michigan Tech '15-'16

As far as I know, it sounds like there are hopes to restart it after the year with the icebreaker.

I've heard the same. Unless Mel didn't mention it, the UMD-MTU series next season went from something that was going to happen...to not. Disappointing.
 
Re: Season 95, Vol 2: Michigan Tech '15-'16

And Vallis stills has eligibility left and they want him back.
Max would be a nice addition to next year's roster if he comes back for another season. I still don't fully grasp what was happening early in the season and why he wasn't seeing the ice, but he ended the season as #3 on the team in points per game at 0.833. Clearly whatever he is doing now is getting him ice time and he's not just a 4th liner when he is in the line-up. He seemed to be getting a lot of PP time.
Ryan J
 
Re: Season 95, Vol 2: Michigan Tech '15-'16

I want Vallis back, he was fun to watch the second half of the season, whatever he did through the first half to get into playing form worked as he kicked some major *** once he got into the lineup.
 
Re: Season 95, Vol 2: Michigan Tech '15-'16

I'm not in favor of the play in games, but if they didn't give so many QWB points to non deserving teams I would really like that. Beating number 28 is just as good as beating number 18 if you ask me.
 
Re: Season 95, Vol 2: Michigan Tech '15-'16

This year was very lopsided to HEA and NCHC. Even ECAC did well. Only 1 bid for three other conferences. How many times in the past has that happened?

I agree that it's not perfect, but it comes down to winning your NC match-ups. A few more wins by anyone in the conference against NCHC teams, and we would have been in. unfortunately, everything stacked up against us this year with the poor NC record by the WCHA. It meant playing a near perfect season to get in because any hiccup effected us more than someone from NCHC or HEA.
 
Re: Season 95, Vol 2: Michigan Tech '15-'16

I really don't think that play-in games should happen, even thought they would've helped WCHA schools in the last two seasons. As it is, NCAA D-I men's hockey has a higher ratio of teams playing in the postseason to those not of all of the major NCAA D-I sports, and more than many minor ones as well. I know that we at BSU and UAH like to tout our D-II titles, but there were under 20 teams playing. The move from 12-16 was big, and the CHA had their part in that, but I honestly don't see where moving to 18 or 20 teams helps a whole lot. After all, the WCHA is the league where you don't get an automatic spot at making the NCAAs.

GFM
 
Re: Season 95, Vol 2: Michigan Tech '15-'16

You might have missed it but Coach Pearson did say he expected the B1g not to require 2 for 1's every time. That's big news if you ask me.
 
Re: Season 95, Vol 2: Michigan Tech '15-'16

Flight Risk: Joel L'Esperance .... rumor has it, that he is being pursued hard right now. Hope he decides to stay....
 
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