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SCOTUS, Now with KBJ

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WeAreNDHockey said:
See the thing is, people on the left complain about their comrades all the time. We all b itc h and moan about our team constantly. Millions of democrats who voted for Obama one year did not vote for Hillary in another. We hold them accountable, or at least attempt to.

We hold each other accountable too. People aim their arrows at me on this forum. Kep and Handy go at each other all the time. I've even seen plenty of criticism directed at the most reasonable posters in this forum who are almost always measured and low key with their posts. But the other side? No. Fucking. Way. Lock (goose) step in place with each other 99.9999999999% of the time. All those trump loving morons who complained about J.D. Vance in Ohio being a trump supporter in name only? Come November they ain't pulling the lever for Tim Ryan, who at the very least would be an open-minded competent establishment member of the Senate. No they will ALL vote for Vance, some of them singing the same "both sides do it" song.

SO long story short, if you pull the "both sides are bad" trope out of your pocket, you are at best a clueless (and sadly gullible and naive) idiot who is doing the bidding of fascists and authoritarians. And anything less than at best you are complicit in the downfall and should be considered an enemy of the good and of this failing democracy we call the United States of America.
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I just want to clarify anytime I am critical of Democrats it isn’t in any way saying they are equally as bad as the right.

Being in power when times are tough is the worst possible position for a political party to be in. The Democrats need to pull out all the stops to limit the damage this fall.
 
And I want to clarify that during a time when the very survival of our democracy is at stake any notion from the "both sides are bad" team puts you on the wrong side. It doesn't need saying for one thing, because as human beings (allegedly) of course all politicians have flaws. But it gives cover to people to turn a blind eye to the real evil. And right now that is ALL centered on one party. All of it. If we voted only for democrats for the next 10 years, not only would this country not suffer defeat, it would improve. Full stop. End of story. Period.

Once America is not looking over the edge of the cliff and we have a functional and LOYAL opposing party it might be OK to remind us that both sides have their flaws if people are getting too connected to one side or the other. Right now, as far as I am concerned, if there is a D next to your name or the Democratic party has endorsed you (like for Judges in some states) you can have my vote. If there is an R next to your name, you can fuck yourself with a rusty railroad spike and die a horrible, slow and painful death.
 
French Rage said:
Sorry, which current members of Congress were around in 1973 when the Court made its ruling and it basically became the law of the land? Hell, how many were even around in 1991 (?) when Casey upheld Roe and further entrenched it as precedent? No recent Congress has done anything because it had become very entrenched over 50 years, and there were more than enough other problems to take care of rather than those that had been very largely moved out of their control.
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Congress has had the power to codify that decision from a "ruling" to hard law, and hasn't done it for 50 years.

And Joe Biden has been in DC since January 3, 1973 as either Senator or President of US Senate or POTUS (save for a recent particular four year stretch).

We're talking 50 years. Besides Biden, Senators Leahy's been there 48; Markey 45, Wyden 41, SCHUMER 41, and Rep Steny Hoyer 40. And they knew how to write the bill: align it to the Court's decision on Roe.
 
The Sicatoka said:
Congress has had the power to codify that decision from a "ruling" to hard law, and hasn't done it for 50 years.

And Joe Biden has been in DC since January 3, 1973 as either Senator or President of US Senate or POTUS (save for a recent particular four year stretch).

We're talking 50 years. Besides Biden, Senators Leahy's been there 48; Markey 45, Wyden 41, SCHUMER 41, and Rep Steny Hoyer 40. And they knew how to write the bill: align it to the Court's decision on Roe.
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Right, and if they wanted to they could have codified every single thing that has been decided and reaffirmed by every single SCOTUS decision just to be safe. Yes, they could do it; well, they could write it and bring it up for vote certainly; it also very well might fail and they know that ahead of time, and thus they would not waste time on such a fool's errand. But yes they could do it. Even though by the time anyone but the handful of people you mentioned, certainly nowhere near enough to actually pass anything, got into office it was seen as the upheld law of the land, so at that point the most effective thing they could do would be to make sure the Senate was appointing the justices they want to make sure it was continually upheld. But yes, I suppose they could do it. So yes, congrats on feeling you made some deep point there.
 
French Rage said:
Right, and if they wanted to they could have codified every single thing that has been decided and reaffirmed by every single SCOTUS decision just to be safe. Yes, they could do it; well, they could write it and bring it up for vote certainly; it also very well might fail and they know that ahead of time, and thus they would not waste time on such a fool's errand. But yes they could do it. Even though by the time anyone but the handful of people you mentioned, certainly nowhere near enough to actually pass anything, got into office it was seen as the upheld law of the land, so at that point the most effective thing they could do would be to make sure the Senate was appointing the justices they want to make sure it was continually upheld. But yes, I suppose they could do it. So yes, congrats on feeling you made some deep point there.
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Passing such a law would also be a bit unusual, it seems to me. Don't we typically operate from the standpoint that we assume you can do something, until there is a law that is passed that says you can't?

In other words, we don't pass a law that says everyone's right to drive a car shall be protected. Instead, we just assume everyone has a right to drive a car, but we pass laws saying you can't drive a car unless you are of a certain age, are licensed, insured, etc...

Constitutional provisions are written the opposite. The right of free speech or the right to assemble shall not be abridged, for example. But statutory law, I don't think you see a lot of "affirmative, you have the right to do this" sort of statutes.
 
French Rage said:
Right, and if they wanted to they could have codified every single thing that has been decided and reaffirmed by every single SCOTUS decision just to be safe. Yes, they could do it; well, they could write it and bring it up for vote certainly; it also very well might fail and they know that ahead of time, and thus they would not waste time on such a fool's errand. But yes they could do it. Even though by the time anyone but the handful of people you mentioned, certainly nowhere near enough to actually pass anything, got into office it was seen as the upheld law of the land, so at that point the most effective thing they could do would be to make sure the Senate was appointing the justices they want to make sure it was continually upheld. But yes, I suppose they could do it. So yes, congrats on feeling you made some deep point there.
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Ask sic what he’d think if kbj, kagan or sotomayor spouse texted to overthrow the election.

weird he won’t comment on that type of thing. It’s almost like there a pathetic, predictable pattern when he shows up
 
LA amended their language today to insure Ectopic pregnancies are included in homicide.

I’m literally sick to my stomach right now. Nothing is more painful than an ectopic pregnancy and I can vouch.

Maybe I can be thrown in jail for mine retroactively. Literally sentencing women to jail for homicide for something they have no control over.

trying to think of the equivalent for all the men out there. You have a prostate issue? Jail!
 
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Deutsche Gopher Fan said:
LA amended their language today to insure Ectopic pregnancies are included in homicide.

I’m literally sick to my stomach right now. Nothing is more painful than an ectopic pregnancy and I can vouch.

Maybe I can be thrown in jail for mine retroactively. Literally sentencing women to jail for homicide for something they have no control over.

trying to think of the equivalent for all the men out there. You have a prostate issue? Jail!
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Jesus
 
Deutsche Gopher Fan said:
trying to think of the equivalent for all the men out there. You have a prostate issue? Jail!
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I know you're trying to make light of a horrible situation, and that's probably a healthier path than I usually take, but there is no equivalent for we men, emotionally or physically. Because of that, any man who isn't pro-choice is a hypocritical piece of 5h!t who can go fuck himself with the same rusty railroad spike anyone who votes for a republican in the next 10 years (at least) can fuck himself with.
 
Deutsche Gopher Fan said:
LA amended their language today to insure Ectopic pregnancies are included in homicide.

I’m literally sick to my stomach right now. Nothing is more painful than an ectopic pregnancy and I can vouch.

Maybe I can be thrown in jail for mine retroactively. Literally sentencing women to jail for homicide for something they have no control over.

trying to think of the equivalent for all the men out there. You have a prostate issue? Jail!
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That wouldn't even qualify...it would have to be something like getting a vasectomy since that prevents fertilization.

I am not sure what these clowns are thinking...that is beyond even Taliban level authoritarianism. Unless the plan of the GOP is to completely split the US this is just beyond ridiculous. They are going to force anyone who believes in any right beyond 2A to flee to Blue States which will lead to dissolving of the Union. I get they think that is a cool plan and all but we have all the money, we will have all the work force and we will have all the jobs.(not to mention most of the women...surely the only ones you would ever want to spend any time with)
Even if they get to have their Fuckwit States of America it will last at most a decade before they have to sell themselves back because no-one outside Saudi Arabia and their ilk will do business with them. This is dumber than the South leaving over Slavery. They are celebrating turning themselves into a nation the UN usually is forced to help out to protect the people.

As someone who was raised to respect all beliefs and love this country warts and all (and also has an IQ higher than my belt size) I am just in awe of how much these fucking dickless flaccid pieces of cunt lint celebrate their evil stupidity. They think God loves them...no God would ever be happy with them. He made them dickless losers for a reason. And personally, I fully embrace our future female overlords we have earned every punishment they give us and then some.

Oh and Sic, joecct, and any other con who is giggling at our anger...you won't be remembered, you won't be honored and in the end everyone will celebrate when you die un-ceremoniously. If Hell exists even Hitler will laugh at the amount of suffering you do.
 
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