SCOTUS 15: Help Us, Ruth Bader Ginsburg! You're Our Only Hope!

[dxmnkd316]

Couple that with corporations like mine actively pushing LGBT alliances within the workplace. This isn’t a small support group, we’re talking thousands of active members across the globe. Front page on the internal landing page. Raising the pride flag over the HQ. Donating time, money, and resources to activist groups.

Gay marriage isn’t going away. If anything we’re going to see more active work (from the highest levels of the company) on the letters coming after LGB. We have an executive VP specifically tasked with inclusion and diversity.

Bigotry is a liability to the bottom line. Inclusion alone is dollar neutral. Millennials and Gen Z demand employers participate and contribute to activism.

 

[Kepler]

Agreed. My conservative derp friends in sc who hate abortion don’t have an issue with gay marriage

I guess I'm judging by my religious derp co-workers. They are big on:

+ no gay marriage
+ no abortion
+ put prayer back in schools

They are mostly Catholics, not Thumpers. The Snake Handlers actually want to officially designate the country as a Christian Nation.

I think my experience may be a bit more... extreme... than many here. I rub shoulders with the real deal.

 

[SJHovey]

Where Hovey is being disingenuous is that death by 1000 paper cuts is still death. I have no doubt a Court will never explicitly overrule Roe. But they can easily nibble away at it until it's a right in name only. And a right wing court could do the same to gay marriage if it felt it was politically expedient to do so.

But courts nibbling away at say 2nd amendment or religious rights are just doing an honest days work?

Be happy for the nibbling counselor. It's what keeps you employed.

 

[unofan]

But courts nibbling away at say 2nd amendment or religious rights are just doing an honest days work?

Be happy for the nibbling counselor. It's what keeps you employed.

Why is every accusation is a confession from the right?

Religion* and guns have never been more protected. I mean, I'm fine turning back the clock on gun rights to the 1800s of you want, when sheriffs regularly confiscated firearms at town borders.

*offer only valid to Christians and some Jews. Muslims, atheists, and Sikhs need not apply.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

But courts nibbling away at say 2nd amendment or religious rights are just doing an honest days work?

Be happy for the nibbling counselor. It's what keeps you employed.

lmao.

There has been no nibbling of the 2nd Amendment. If anything it has been EXPANDED the last 20 years.

 

[Kepler]

religious rights

Give me a break.

 

[SJHovey]

lmao.

There has been no nibbling of the 2nd Amendment. If anything it has been EXPANDED the last 20 years.

There is constant nibbling at it. There is constant nibbling at pretty much every constitutional term or provision. That's the process, and I'm entirely cool with it. City Councils or Legislatures or Congress enact a law they think is good that nibbles at the boundary of what may or may not be constitutionally protected religious rights, second amendment rights, privacy rights, etc... The courts then decide whether they went too far or not. Great. That's our process.

You're telling me there are no laws regulating firearms in this country? There are all kinds of laws, most of which I think are excellent.

It's just that the laws you want, a complete ban on private ownership, haven't been enacted and/or would never be found to be constitutional.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

There is constant nibbling at it. There is constant nibbling at pretty much every constitutional term or provision. That's the process, and I'm entirely cool with it. City Councils or Legislatures or Congress enact a law they think is good that nibbles at the boundary of what may or may not be constitutionally protected religious rights, second amendment rights, privacy rights, etc... The courts then decide whether they went too far or not. Great. That's our process.

You're telling me there are no laws regulating firearms in this country? There are all kinds of laws, most of which I think are excellent.

It's just that the laws you want, a complete ban on private ownership, haven't been enacted and/or would never be found to be constitutional.

You're being delusional again. Most of the guns used in all the mass shootings right now were illegal at one time and now are not. You had a 17 year old kid in Kenosha, WI using one of those guns to shoot down civilians and being cheerleaded by the President of the Fucking United States.

Nibbling? BS.

 

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

Are there a lot on here who want to ban private ownership of guns? I don’t. I think high capacity rifles are different

religion has never had more freedom. You can literally discriminate and treat people like garbage because your garbage religion says so

 

[burd]

There is constant nibbling at it. There is constant nibbling at pretty much every constitutional term or provision. That's the process, and I'm entirely cool with it. City Councils or Legislatures or Congress enact a law they think is good that nibbles at the boundary of what may or may not be constitutionally protected religious rights, second amendment rights, privacy rights, etc... The courts then decide whether they went too far or not. Great. That's our process.

You're telling me there are no laws regulating firearms in this country? There are all kinds of laws, most of which I think are excellent.

It's just that the laws you want, a complete ban on private ownership, haven't been enacted and/or would never be found to be constitutional.

Most of my friends are lib, and I don't know one who advocates a complete ban on private gun ownership. While that group, whatever it is, may be offensive to gun owners, including hunters, it is exceedingly small, IMO.

You are right, though, that a complete ban will never happen.

 

[Kepler]

Are there a lot on here who want to ban private ownership of guns? I don’t. I think high capacity rifles are different

religion has never had more freedom. You can literally discriminate and treat people like garbage because your garbage religion says so

I don't want to ban guns at all. I do want to allow the local population to ban guns within their town or city if they choose to.

The spectre of the state taking private guns against the will of the local population is a boogeyman to get rightwing votes and money. The reality that we live (and increasingly die) with is a few mentally unbalanced zealots demanding to keep their arsenals against the will of the local population and the Court enabling them for cynical political purposes.

The laws and standards of Bum-fck, Jesusf-ckistan are not appropriate for towns and cities with dense, educated populations who have real lives. I am for letting the Country Mice kill each other to their hearts' content. Just keep that bullsh-t away from the City Mice who have actual things to do, if they so decide.

 

[burd]

The laws and standards of Bum-fck, Jesusf-ckistan are not appropriate for towns and cities with dense, educated populations who have real lives. I am for letting the Country Mice kill each other to their hearts' content. Just keep that bullsh-t away from the City Mice who have actual things to do, if they so decide.

Wee, sleeket, cowran, tim’rous beastie,
O, what a panic’s in thy breastie!
Thou need na start awa sae hasty,
Wi’ bickerin brattle!
I wad be laith to rin an’ chase thee
Wi’ murd’ring pattle!

I’m truly sorry Man’s dominion
Has broken Nature’s social union,
An’ justifies that ill opinion,
Which makes thee startle,
At me, thy poor, earth-born companion,
An’ fellow-mortal!

 

[Slap Shot]

Restricted religious rights? Since 1962 (prayer in school) what have been these nibblings of any significance? Heck didn't the Supreme Court just side with religious conservatives including allowing states to fund religions schools indirectly while another protects religious schools from federal employment discrimination lawsuits?

 

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

I've written this before, been roundly mocked for it, but I'll write it again. I do not believe that we will see a US Supreme Court decision in which the Court says a person has a constitutional right to a certain thing, then a subsequent decision revoking that right. It won't happen for the right to counsel in criminal cases. It won't happen with respect to the right of interracial marriage, or abortion. It won't happen to gay marriage. That is what I firmly believe.

"Our institutions will save us", he muttered for the umpteenth time, in spite of all the warning signs he observed and ignored for the past 4 years.

 

[SJHovey]

"Our institutions will save us", he muttered for the umpteenth time, in spite of all the warning signs he observed and ignored for the past 4 years.

Was I wrong?

 

[Kepler]

"our institutions will save us", he muttered for the umpteenth time, in spite of all the warning signs he observed and ignored for the past 4 years.

Nobody ever said this!

 

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

Restricted religious rights? Since 1962 (prayer in school) what have been these nibblings of any significance? Heck didn't the Supreme Court just side with religious conservatives including allowing states to fund religions schools indirectly while another protects religious schools from federal employment discrimination lawsuits?

Didn’t you know? Letting gays get married has ruined the lives of good Christians

 

[ScoobyDoo]

Was I wrong?

Yes. Yes you were. They haven't held up. Talk to the 13 year old girl in Texas if you don't believe me. Getting raped and being forced to term is such a joy.

 

[Kepler]

Didn’t you know? Letting gays get married has ruined the lives of good Christians

That is basically what Alito and Thomas argued. Allowing gay people to marry violates the religious rights of Christians.

What the f-ck does that mean? You might as well argue that allowing atheists to hold public office violates the religious rights of Christians.

 

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

If anything, there is too much religious freedom in this country. Your freedom of religion should end where fundamental human rights begin.