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Scotus 11: Will Thomas Ever Speak Again?

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Seems to be some confusion on this virgin thing. Here's part of the transcript from Kavanaugh's interview:


(Pretty sure it's "Jesuit" not "judgement" high school btw. )


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MacCallum: ... Michael Avenatti says that he has significant evidence and another accuser, who claims that you and Mark Judge, at multiple house parties in the Washington, D.C., area during the 1980s, would participate in the targeting of women with alcohol and drugs to allow a train of men to subsequently gang-rape them.

There are multiple witnesses that will corroborate these facts, and each of them must be called to testify publicly. Did you ever participate in or where you ever aware of any gang-rape that happened at a party that you attended?

B. Kavanaugh: That’s totally false and outrageous. I’ve never done any such thing, known about any such thing. When I was in high school – and I went to an all boys Catholic high school, a judgment (ph) high school, where I was focused on academics and athletics, going to church every Sunday at Little Flower, working on my service projects, and friendship, friendship with my fellow classmates and friendship with girls from the local all girls Catholic schools.

And yes, there were parties. And the drinking age was 18, and yes, the seniors were legal and had beer there. And yes, people might have had too many beers on occasion and people generally in high school – I think all of us have probably done things we look back on in high school and regret or cringe a bit, but that’s not what we’re talking about.

We’re talking about an allegation of sexual assault. I’ve never sexually assaulted anyone. I did not have sexual intercourse or anything close to sexual intercourse in high school or for many years there after. ...


Kavanaugh is responding there to Avenetti's quazi-allegations there, not the ones from Ford or Ramirez.
 
Re: Scotus 11: Will Thomas Ever Speak Again?

Seems to be some confusion on this virgin thing. Here's part of the transcript from Kavanaugh's interview:


(Pretty sure it's "Jesuit" not "judgement" high school btw. )


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Kavanaugh is responding there to Avenetti's quazi-allegations there, not the ones from Ford or Ramirez.

Not confused at all. Look at the last statement.

We’re talking about an allegation of sexual assault. I’ve never sexually assaulted anyone. I did not have sexual intercourse or anything close to sexual intercourse in high school or for many years there after. ...

What does sexual intercourse have to do with sexual assault? Nothing. He could have been involved in any number of gang bangs and still remained a virgin.
 
Re: Scotus 11: Will Thomas Ever Speak Again?

Seems to be some confusion on this virgin thing. Here's part of the transcript from Kavanaugh's interview:


(Pretty sure it's "Jesuit" not "judgement" high school btw. )


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Kavanaugh is responding there to Avenetti's quazi-allegations there, not the ones from Ford or Ramirez.

And even then, he didn't answer the question.

Did you ever participate in or where you ever aware of any gang-rape that happened at a party that you attended?
 
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Appears to me that Kavanaugh is playing the Clinton game. It depends on what your definition of "is" is. After all, when Clinton said he didn't have sex with that woman he wasn't lying according to what Kavanaugh is saying here.
 
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Not confused at all. Look at the last statement.



What does sexual intercourse have to do with sexual assault? Nothing. He could have been involved in any number of gang bangs and still remained a virgin.

Here's the whole transcript, btw. I watched it this morning on line which probably gives better context.

I've just seen several comments here and elswhere that K's vigin comment is irrelevant because Ford doesn't accuse him of rape. Fine, but they asked him first about Ford, then about Ramirez, and he responded to each of those with whatever he had to say. Last they asked him about Avenetti, who's statements do contain in part the accusation he raped women. His "virgin" statement is direct response to that. He's not summing up or switching back to Ford in that last sentence, or only responding to part of Avenetti's allegations.
 
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Here's the whole transcript, btw. I watched it this morning on line which probably gives better context.

I've just seen several comments here and elswhere that K's vigin comment is irrelevant because Ford doesn't accuse him of rape. Fine, but they asked him first about Ford, then about Ramirez, and he responded to each of those with whatever he had to say. Last they asked him about Avenetti, who's statements do contain in part the accusation he raped women. His "virgin" statement is direct response to that. He's not summing up or switching back to Ford in that last sentence, or only responding to part of Avenetti's allegations.

For the 5th time today. His virgin comments are irrelevant to every question that has been posed. Period.
 
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And even then, he didn't answer the question.
Did you ever participate in or where you ever aware of any gang-rape that happened at a party that you attended?

I don't follow? He says. "That’s totally false and outrageous. I’ve never done any such thing, known about any such thing." How is that not an answer? :confused:
 
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I don't follow? He says. "That’s totally false and outrageous. I’ve never done any such thing, known about any such thing." How is that not an answer? :confused:

And Bill Clinton never had sex with Monica. And, that's the truth depending on your definition.
 
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Classy. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/24/business/brett-kavanaugh-yearbook-renate.html

Brett Kavanaugh’s page in his high school yearbook offers a glimpse of the teenage years of the man who is now President Trump’s Supreme Court nominee: lots of football, plenty of drinking, parties at the beach. Among the reminiscences about sports and booze is a mysterious entry: “Renate Alumnius.”

The word “Renate” appears at least 14 times in Georgetown Preparatory School’s 1983 yearbook, on individuals’ pages and in a group photo of nine football players, including Judge Kavanaugh, who were described as the “Renate Alumni.” It is a reference to Renate Schroeder, then a student at a nearby Catholic girls’ school.

Two of Judge Kavanaugh’s classmates say the mentions of Renate were part of the football players’ unsubstantiated boasting about their conquests.

“They were very disrespectful, at least verbally, with Renate,” said Sean Hagan, a Georgetown Prep student at the time, referring to Judge Kavanaugh and his teammates. “I can’t express how disgusted I am with them, then and now.”

This month, Renate Schroeder Dolphin joined 64 other women who, saying they knew Judge Kavanaugh during their high school years, signed a letter to the leaders of the Senate Judiciary Committee, which is weighing Judge Kavanaugh’s nomination. The letter stated that “he has behaved honorably and treated women with respect.”

When Ms. Dolphin signed the Sept. 14 letter, she wasn’t aware of the “Renate” yearbook references on the pages of Judge Kavanaugh and his football teammates.

“I learned about these yearbook pages only a few days ago,” Ms. Dolphin said in a statement to The New York Times. “I don’t know what ‘Renate Alumnus’ actually means. I can’t begin to comprehend what goes through the minds of 17-year-old boys who write such things, but the insinuation is horrible, hurtful and simply untrue. I pray their daughters are never treated this way. I will have no further comment.”
 
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So, either they're lying or Renate doesn't want to admit she was a slut in high school.

Why aren't we investigating again?
 
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I don't follow? He says. "That’s totally false and outrageous. I’ve never done any such thing, known about any such thing." How is that not an answer? :confused:

Ok, so I missed that. Still, I don't know why you take what he says in a TV interview at face value, when he's been shown to lie, under oath, in front of the Senate Judiciary Committee.

But I know that doesn't bother you either, so...…………………….
 
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So, either they're lying or Renate doesn't want to admit she was a slut in high school.

Why aren't we investigating again?

Sure seems like they were passing Renate around like one of their footballs.

Unless they're just boasting about stuff that never happened with a poor girl who did nothing to them, and publicly humiliating her just for kicks.

Nice bunch of boys. World leader material.
 
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She probably just dated the wrong guy with the wrong group of friends (one of which was Kavanaugh).
 
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**** off, you POS.

“BREAKING: President Trump attacked Deborah Ramirez, the second woman to accuse Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh of sexual assault: "The second accuser has nothing. ... She admits that she was drunk."
 
Re: Scotus 11: Will Thomas Ever Speak Again?

Ok, so I missed that. Still, I don't know why you take what he says in a TV interview at face value, when he's been shown to lie, under oath, in front of the Senate Judiciary Committee.

But I know that doesn't bother you either, so...…………………….

I don't. I was simply clarifying what he actually said as it seemed to me to have been misconstrued by several people, Scooby's argument of sematics and parsed words aside.
 
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Unless they're just boasting about stuff that never happened with a poor girl who did nothing to them, and publicly humiliating her just for kicks.
Does anyone think this is not what happened? These guys are locked up for four years in an all male Catholic boarding school. By year three or four they are probably alarmed by faint homosexual thoughts that have crept into their dreams. They wouldn't know how to get laid with a woman if they had a class on it. So in order to prove their manliness they sit around boasting about the scores of girls they slept with, the outrageous acts committed and the kegs of beer consumed. They probably puked during their second pint.
 
Re: Scotus 11: Will Thomas Ever Speak Again?

Does anyone think this is not what happened? These guys are locked up for four years in an all male Catholic boarding school. By year three or four they are probably alarmed by faint homosexual thoughts that have crept into their dreams. They wouldn't know how to get laid with a woman if they had a class on it. So in order to prove their manliness they sit around boasting about the scores of girls they slept with, the outrageous acts committed and the kegs of beer consumed. They probably puked during their second pint.

Or they just went out and raped what they wanted cause they're entitled to everything their heart desires.
 
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"She admits that she was drunk," Trump said of Deborah Ramirez, the second woman to accuse Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh of sexual misconduct.

So, are we going back to "she was asking for it"?

Amazing how far this country regresses for every day it tries to move forward.
 
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