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Scotus 11: Will Thomas Ever Speak Again?
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Re: Scotus 11: Will Thomas Ever Speak Again?
Most of the Committee members (and Senate GOPers) went all in long ago, and it won't matter if ten eye witnesses come forward to support Ford and Ramirez--they will be flat out blind to the evidence. The public and a handful of GOP moderates, though?
Most of the Committee members (and Senate GOPers) went all in long ago, and it won't matter if ten eye witnesses come forward to support Ford and Ramirez--they will be flat out blind to the evidence. The public and a handful of GOP moderates, though?
ScoobyDoo
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Re: Scotus 11: Will Thomas Ever Speak Again?
I'm just starting to wonder what's the good result here. Ultimately, I would like him stopped. But, what happens then?
If the Catholic Woman is confirmed she's just as bad for the Court overall.
If they have to put a moderate up (Garland) and confirm him that would be fine but I don't see that happening.
Perhaps the Dems could wrest control in November and hold the seat open for two years?
Just seems right now that it's a lot like the dog chasing the car. What happens when the dog catches the car?
I'm just starting to wonder what's the good result here. Ultimately, I would like him stopped. But, what happens then?
If the Catholic Woman is confirmed she's just as bad for the Court overall.
If they have to put a moderate up (Garland) and confirm him that would be fine but I don't see that happening.
Perhaps the Dems could wrest control in November and hold the seat open for two years?
Just seems right now that it's a lot like the dog chasing the car. What happens when the dog catches the car?
rufus
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Re: Scotus 11: Will Thomas Ever Speak Again?
Even people who don't want to testify should testify. Mark Judge being witness #1. Put him under oath, and see what he says. Better yet, have the FBI investigate the whole lot of them, and let's get to the truth here.
One of the writers of the New Yorker article was on CBS, and she said emails among Kavanaugh classmates at Yale have been going back and forth since July wondering whether the story about him shoving his dick in Ramirez' face was gonna come out. This was months before Ford came forward with her story.
Even people who don't want to testify should testify. Mark Judge being witness #1. Put him under oath, and see what he says. Better yet, have the FBI investigate the whole lot of them, and let's get to the truth here.
One of the writers of the New Yorker article was on CBS, and she said emails among Kavanaugh classmates at Yale have been going back and forth since July wondering whether the story about him shoving his dick in Ramirez' face was gonna come out. This was months before Ford came forward with her story.
rufus
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Re: Scotus 11: Will Thomas Ever Speak Again?
Except the others who have said, he was great when he was sober, but became forward and aggressive when he was drinking. Attests to demeanor. He said he might have partied a bit, but never assaulted anyone.
Except the others who have said, he was great when he was sober, but became forward and aggressive when he was drinking. Attests to demeanor. He said he might have partied a bit, but never assaulted anyone.
mookie1995
there's a good buck in that racket.
Pretty sure Jason from Friday 13th was a virgin....
rufus
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Re: Scotus 11: Will Thomas Ever Speak Again?
Is that Canadian/Texan for "Bless your heart"?
Is that Canadian/Texan for "Bless your heart"?
unofan
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You understand that for nearly everything but criminal trials, the legal standard is simply preponderance of the evidence, right? 50% plus a feather means you win.
ScoobyDoo
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unofan
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I'm sure you also know people who were angry drunks, and people who got a bit...frisky...when sloshed. Sounds like Kavanaugh was a bit of both.
Re: Scotus 11: Will Thomas Ever Speak Again?
Exposing Kavanaugh as a Conservaperv has already benefited the Democrats Scoobs. Far from being an asset as originally envisioned during this campaign season he's now a liability. All Dems are now completely justified in voting against him and for several (Donnelly, McCaskill) who won their races against anti-women candidates last time this is a gift. Add Heitkamp to that as well as her opponent is basically saying attempted rape is cool as long as the rapist doesn't succeed for whatever reason.
Now having said that either Kavanaugh gets confirmed or some other knuckledragger takes his place next year since the Senate is favored to remain in the GOP's control. Elections have consequences and all that, but there's not enough time to jam a new nominee through given the extreme vetting the next choice is going to face by the GOP themselves in order to cover their own a sses.
But look on the bright side. A Kavanaugh vote will end Heller's Senate career if it isn't already over, and put a target on Cory Gardner, Joni Ernst, and Susan Collins when they're all up in 2020.
Exposing Kavanaugh as a Conservaperv has already benefited the Democrats Scoobs. Far from being an asset as originally envisioned during this campaign season he's now a liability. All Dems are now completely justified in voting against him and for several (Donnelly, McCaskill) who won their races against anti-women candidates last time this is a gift. Add Heitkamp to that as well as her opponent is basically saying attempted rape is cool as long as the rapist doesn't succeed for whatever reason.
Now having said that either Kavanaugh gets confirmed or some other knuckledragger takes his place next year since the Senate is favored to remain in the GOP's control. Elections have consequences and all that, but there's not enough time to jam a new nominee through given the extreme vetting the next choice is going to face by the GOP themselves in order to cover their own a sses.
But look on the bright side. A Kavanaugh vote will end Heller's Senate career if it isn't already over, and put a target on Cory Gardner, Joni Ernst, and Susan Collins when they're all up in 2020.
mookie1995
there's a good buck in that racket.
ScoobyDoo
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See, I'm not sure about that. Absolutes only seem to work for the Republicans.
Exposing Kavanaugh as a Conservaperv has already benefited the Democrats Scoobs. Far from being an asset as originally envisioned during this campaign season he's now a liability. All Dems are now completely justified in voting against him and for several (Donnelly, McCaskill) who won their races against anti-women candidates last time this is a gift. Add Heitkamp to that as well as her opponent is basically saying attempted rape is cool as long as the rapist doesn't succeed for whatever reason.
Now having said that either Kavanaugh gets confirmed or some other knuckledragger takes his place next year since the Senate is favored to remain in the GOP's control. Elections have consequences and all that, but there's not enough time to jam a new nominee through given the extreme vetting the next choice is going to face by the GOP themselves in order to cover their own a sses.
But look on the bright side. A Kavanaugh vote will end Heller's Senate career if it isn't already over, and put a target on Cory Gardner, Joni Ernst, and Susan Collins when they're all up in 2020.
See, I'm not sure about that. Absolutes only seem to work for the Republicans.
unofan
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Still listen to all the facts though, right?
Since he's already a proven liar (remember his verbal fellatio of Trump when his nomination was announced that would've made Sean Spicer and Baghdad Bob proud?), his credibility is shot. In a case like this, that's the ballgame.
rufus
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I think he said the whole "virgin" thing cause that's what he said to the wife when he first met her. "Oh honey, I'm not like those other guys. You're the very first".
No matter what kind of brave face she's putting on publicly, things can't be rosy in the Kavanaugh household. Two young daughters, what, early teens, maybe the youngest not even, and this is what they have to hear about their father on the news? That he was a scumbag assaulter of women when he was just a bit older than them? Boozing them up and then taking advantage of them? Yeah, that's a nice image when daddy comes to tuck you in at night.
That cannot be going over well with wifey, and if he doesn't end up getting confirmed, I can see divorce coming in their future.
I think he said the whole "virgin" thing cause that's what he said to the wife when he first met her. "Oh honey, I'm not like those other guys. You're the very first".
No matter what kind of brave face she's putting on publicly, things can't be rosy in the Kavanaugh household. Two young daughters, what, early teens, maybe the youngest not even, and this is what they have to hear about their father on the news? That he was a scumbag assaulter of women when he was just a bit older than them? Boozing them up and then taking advantage of them? Yeah, that's a nice image when daddy comes to tuck you in at night.
That cannot be going over well with wifey, and if he doesn't end up getting confirmed, I can see divorce coming in their future.
rufus
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Re: Scotus 11: Will Thomas Ever Speak Again?
Little more than 'frisky' though. Maybe 'entitled'?
Little more than 'frisky' though. Maybe 'entitled'?
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I wouldn't be so sure about this.
They only know him as he's been around them. Unless he has engaged in terrible acts in their presence, they will likely perceive this as entirely politically motivated slander against their father/husband.
I knew someone who's husband was accused of molesting small children, including children in the family (but not the couple's children.) Her support for her husband was unwavering, and almost militant.
We all have the ability to lie to ourselves.
I wouldn't be so sure about this.
They only know him as he's been around them. Unless he has engaged in terrible acts in their presence, they will likely perceive this as entirely politically motivated slander against their father/husband.
I knew someone who's husband was accused of molesting small children, including children in the family (but not the couple's children.) Her support for her husband was unwavering, and almost militant.
We all have the ability to lie to ourselves.
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Yeah I’m gonna go with hovey on this
Yeah I’m gonna go with hovey on this
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Re: Scotus 11: Will Thomas Ever Speak Again?
Baseless accusations with pushes for no challenge, meet due process. https://www.mediaite.com/online/hea...ecutor-ask-questions-not-fair-and-respectful/
Baseless accusations with pushes for no challenge, meet due process. https://www.mediaite.com/online/hea...ecutor-ask-questions-not-fair-and-respectful/
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