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Sandusky/Penn State scandal

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bronconick said:
Figure this probably needs its own thread instead of it re-appearing in the college football thread every so often.


http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ap-pennstateex-coach-allegations

Oy.
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As sleazy as these accusations are, I guess it's inevitable that Joe Pa or the reputation of the program will be affected. A couple of wire service stories have mentioned that Joe turned Sandusky in as soon as the allegations came to him. Even so, the stories said something like: "there's no indication Paterno followed up." I surely hope as this story unfolds, Paterno's reputation won't be damged.

And it's certainly one thing to have a perv ex-coach. It's entirely different to have your AD and campus police chief commit perjury (if they did) to cover up for him. Oy, indeed.
 
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if JoePa turned the guy in... then heard nothing about it. that doesn't absolve him.
 
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mookie1995 said:
if JoePa turned the guy in... then heard nothing about it. that doesn't absolve him.
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Why? Is Paterno a cop? Sandusky was no longer working for Penn St. as I understand it, so beyond reporting it up the chain of command, why is Paterno otherwise responsible? Because he's famous? And you're an iconoclastic putz?
 
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bronconick said:
Legally, it may have been enough. Ethically and morally is another question.
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Guy's got a 40+ plus year career as one of the most honest, ethical (not to mention the winningest) coaches in college football history. And you're willing to jump to an immediate conclusion that he did something wrong here? Why? Neither of us knows the facts. But I'm willing to give this guy the benefit of the doubt. Why aren't you?
 
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Point taken. He could have followed up and been told by the now indicted person he reported it to that nothing came of the investigation.
 
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bronconick said:
Point taken. He could have followed up and been told by the now indicted person he reported it to that nothing came of the investigation.
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To me, the really extraordinary thing here is to have an AD and another top administrator charged with FELONIES. I mean extra benefits and honeys and grade "adjustments" are one thing. But FELONIES? Assuming it's true (major assumption) you'd have to conclude they were circling the wagons to protect the program. I don't think I'd put my butt on the line for a pedophile, unless he was my brother. And even then I'm doubtful.

If Paterno did something wrong here, then he deserves what he gets. It's just that everything we know about the guy argues against him knowingly doing something wrong. I admit, I really don't want his legacy tarnished. When I first read about it, I thought this is the kind of thing that could force Joe to retire. I surely hope not.
 
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I didn't want to be the one to start this thread. No way the AD survives this and not exactly the publicity you want when you're in the business of recruiting...young men. I know it's football related, but this is a huge black eye for the school and no matter what they say about it being isolated to Sandusky, the seed is already planted in the minds of parents everywhere.
 
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Reading the details, I can't believe this didn't come out earlier and also can't believe how open/nonchalant Sandusky was about all this.
 
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J.D. said:
Reading the details, I can't believe this didn't come out earlier and also can't believe how open/nonchalant Sandusky was about all this.
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The press accounts indicate some of these events were witnessed and reported. One by a graduate assistant, who brought his father along. You would have expected Sandusky to keep this behavior off campus. You're right, the press accounts seem to paint a picture of a guy who didn't care about exposure. Or at least didn't fear it. As I said earlier, the stink from this might be what causes Paterno to retire. To me, that would be a shame.
 
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J.D. said:
I didn't want to be the one to start this thread. No way the AD survives this and not exactly the publicity you want when you're in the business of recruiting...young men. I know it's football related, but this is a huge black eye for the school and no matter what they say about it being isolated to Sandusky, the seed is already planted in the minds of parents everywhere.
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I'm sure you intended to say "it's NOT football related." But your observations are dead on. Questions will be asked. And innocent people(Joe Paterno?) will be hurt by people thinking "where there's smoke there's fire" how could the coach not have known?
 
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I actually did mean "football related" in that it involved a football coach. All I meant by that is it can still have an impact on recruiting in other sports due to the black eye for the institution as a whole.
 
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how could Paterno NOT know about this? its not like it was one time and quickly covered up. multiple incidents, multiple reports, multiple people knew. and no one mentioned it to Paterno? I don't think so.
 
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bronconick said:
Almost everyone on this board, yourself included is "anti-BTHC". I think you owe us all an apology. :p
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Or an explanation....;)

I could see JoePa not knowing more about it. Unlikely, but very possible. I hope he didn't know more about it, I'll be honest about that.
 
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After reading a certain part of the article in the original post (which I will not quote here), it appears to me that Paterno knew in 2002. I would guess his long relationship with Sandusky clouded his judgement.
 
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