RPI & Union @ Clarkson & SLU (2/8, 2/9)

[Ralph Baer]

Re: RPI & Union @ Clarkson & SLU (2/8, 2/9)

The aforementioned forecast from the NWS was for the local Potsdam/Canton metro area....

Isn't "metro" a bit of a stretch?

 

[FreshFish]

Re: RPI & Union @ Clarkson & SLU (2/8, 2/9)

It took me almost 7 hours to get to Albany.

A good friend of mine went to Colgate (hey, don't blame him, his father went there too, and neither of them followed college hockey).

One of his fraternity brothers kept track of driving time in a rather unusual fashion....he once said, "the weather was so bad, it took me a whole six-pack to get here [Hamilton] from Albany."



The world was a different place back then, in more ways than one. That was also when it was legal for 18-year olds to purchase alcohol in most states....

 

[Ralph Baer]

Re: RPI & Union @ Clarkson & SLU (2/8, 2/9)

The world was a different place back then, in more ways than one. That was also when it was legal for 18-year olds to purchase alcohol in most states....

It was indeed 18 in New York and some others, but I don't think it was 18 in most states.

 

[apple2k]

Re: RPI & Union @ Clarkson & SLU (2/8, 2/9)

Funny, I don't remember anything about that age 18 thinking drink.

 

[DrDemento]

Re: RPI & Union @ Clarkson & SLU (2/8, 2/9)

Can't even begin to ballpark the number of times I have gone through that area to various hockey games while growing up. As long as you give yourself plenty of time and go slow, it really isn't bad in snowstorms. As has been said, they do keep the main roads in decent shape.

DrD: we have a hunting camp off 458 between nicholville and St. Regis falls, close to the lake ozonia rd. We have always said there seems to be a perpetual cloud dropping snow on that area from Christmas to Easter

The past few winters have been kind of mild with few big accumulations and only short bursts of really cold weather. Going back though, we have some horror stories of traveling around the 'Dacks. Worst was March of 1993 when over a few days we got 103" total (March 13-15??). Interestingly-the roads were always clear within about 2 hours of any snowfall.

 

[DrDemento]

Re: RPI & Union @ Clarkson & SLU (2/8, 2/9)

The other spot to be wary of is Route 30 between Tupper Lake and Long Lake. Believe me...I spent 5 years going back & forth between Potsdam and Albany and that stretch of the trip was the most treacherous during snow storms. Winding roads, roller coaster hills, and sharp turns are the norm.

Safe travels!

You picked about the most dangerous area around. Not hilly but you can be cruising along and suddenly in the snow you are in fog so dense you cannot see the lake or the bridge. There were times we drove that stretch at 20mph max-we stayed in second gear most of the way. As long as you are alone on the road it is mostly OK-it is the other drivers you ahve to be wary of.

 

[FlagDUDE08]

Re: RPI & Union @ Clarkson & SLU (2/8, 2/9)

From the National Weather Service for Potsdam/Canton region:
Tonight (Thurs.) Snow, mainly after 11pm. Low around 8. Wind chill values as low as -4. Northeast wind around 8 mph. Chance of precipitation is 90%. New snow accumulation of 2 to 4 inches possible.

Friday Snow. High near 20. Wind chill values as low as -3. Blustery, with a northeast wind 10 to 20 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New snow accumulation of 5 to 9 inches possible.

Friday Night Snow, mainly before 3am. Low around 5. Wind chill values as low as -13. Northeast wind 16 to 18 mph, with gusts as high as 29 mph. Chance of precipitation is 90%. New snow accumulation of 3 to 5 inches possible.

Saturday A 30 percent chance of snow before 7am. Cloudy, then gradually becoming mostly sunny, with a high near 18. Northeast wind 10 to 15 mph, with gusts as high as 25 mph. New snow accumulation of less than a half inch possible.

GO RPI !

Looks like light dustings to me.

 

[FlagDUDE08]

Re: RPI & Union @ Clarkson & SLU (2/8, 2/9)

It was indeed 18 in New York and some others, but I don't think it was 18 in most states.

It wasn't in Connecticut. Students at Bridgeport College used to always go over to NY.

 

[FlagDUDE08]

Re: RPI & Union @ Clarkson & SLU (2/8, 2/9)

The past few winters have been kind of mild with few big accumulations and only short bursts of really cold weather. Going back though, we have some horror stories of traveling around the 'Dacks. Worst was March of 1993 when over a few days we got 103" total (March 13-15??). Interestingly-the roads were always clear within about 2 hours of any snowfall.

We were prepared for Blizzard '93. Were you around for the Great Ice Storm of '98?

 

[turk181]

Re: RPI & Union @ Clarkson & SLU (2/8, 2/9)

Seth Appert on SLU-t & Clarkson....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNZCtCnKYc0&feature=player_embedded Fri. refs, Mike Baker/Kevin Graber....linesmen, Andy Petrus/Joe Testa........Saturday refs, Baker/Chris Ciamaga.....linesmen, Ryan Knapp/Petrus. RPI Gamenotes http://www.rpiathletics.com/documents/2013/2/6/2012-13MHKYGameNotes_SLU_CLK.pdf?id=1458

 

[DrDemento]

Re: RPI & Union @ Clarkson & SLU (2/8, 2/9)

We were prepared for Blizzard '93. Were you around for the Great Ice Storm of '98?

We were up there for '98. Everyone lost power-some for weeks. Our little Hamlet of BML was only out for a couple days-i do not understand why we were spared that time. I have a 35Kw generator up there running Liquid Propane. We had a 500 gallon tank about 80% filled and at full tilt use about 5 gallons per hour. Jenny and I took turns shutting it down so that it would not run out of fuel in the 80 hours that it would last. But after 3 days we had used up only about 200 gallons and were refilled. In the 30+ years we have owned up there we have seen just about everything and anything. Huge snowfalls, microburst winds (I think they had something call a Duracho once), temps down to -30 and lower, etc. We once drove over to the Stillwater Inn for dinner near the Stillwater Reservoir and they reported a temp of lower than -40 (that is as far as their thermometer would go). No wonder the bear all hibernate starting around November!

 

[DrDemento]

Re: RPI & Union @ Clarkson & SLU (2/8, 2/9)

Seth Appert on SLU-t & Clarkson....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNZCtCnKYc0&feature=player_embedded Fri. refs, Mike Baker/Kevin Graber....linesmen, Andy Petrus/Joe Testa........Saturday refs, Baker/Chris Ciamaga.....linesmen, Ryan Knapp/Petrus. RPI Gamenotes http://www.rpiathletics.com/documents/2013/2/6/2012-13MHKYGameNotes_SLU_CLK.pdf?id=1458

Thanks Turk-Happy not to see Kotyra up there but I don't have a real feel for the kinds of games these officials call. hopefully these are not penalty filled contests-i still just feel we are a better team in games that we don't have to spend much time on special teams. It would seem agian that it is just a matter of match ups-SLU has some really talented offensive players and we have to find a way to match up against them and cut down their chances.

 

[aweise]

Re: RPI & Union @ Clarkson & SLU (2/8, 2/9)

You picked about the most dangerous area around. Not hilly but you can be cruising along and suddenly in the snow you are in fog so dense you cannot see the lake or the bridge. There were times we drove that stretch at 20mph max-we stayed in second gear most of the way. As long as you are alone on the road it is mostly OK-it is the other drivers you ahve to be wary of.

When you're sliding all over the place, yes. Once you got through that stretch and hit Long Lake, things were generally easier to handle...not that it wasn't difficult, but not as treacherous as the Tupper-Long Lake trip. I knew people who coordinated their trips home to stay close to each other in the event something happened. Of course, at least one of those cars were pickup trucks or something with 4WD/AWD.

Ah...memories...

 

[DrDemento]

Re: RPI & Union @ Clarkson & SLU (2/8, 2/9)

When you're sliding all over the place, yes. Once you got through that stretch and hit Long Lake, things were generally easier to handle...not that it wasn't difficult, but not as treacherous as the Tupper-Long Lake trip. I knew people who coordinated their trips home to stay close to each other in the event something happened. Of course, at least one of those cars were pickup trucks or something with 4WD/AWD.

Ah...memories...

Even in the summer-we always made sure someone knew when and where we were traveling. There are long stretches up there especially heading out of Long Lake (both north and east) where there is nothing-no homes, no services, no electricity, no cell phone coverage. In the summer however, if you break down or have some sort of mishap-it will be an inconvenience (minor or major). But if it happens in the winter with temps well below zero or in the heavy snow-it could be fatal. i always felt the most difficult winter driving was the streth from BML heading west throug Raquette Lake and continuing on to Inlet. But it was always worth the trip just to go a bit further and dine at the Seventh Lake House.

 

[FlagDUDE08]

Re: RPI & Union @ Clarkson & SLU (2/8, 2/9)

Seth Appert on SLU-t & Clarkson....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNZCtCnKYc0&feature=player_embedded Fri. refs, Mike Baker/Kevin Graber....linesmen, Andy Petrus/Joe Testa........Saturday refs, Baker/Chris Ciamaga.....linesmen, Ryan Knapp/Petrus. RPI Gamenotes http://www.rpiathletics.com/documents/2013/2/6/2012-13MHKYGameNotes_SLU_CLK.pdf?id=1458

I think I've been a bit unfair to Baker in the past because of one call, although he does tend to call fairly tight games (probably to stay in control). Graber and Ciamaga I don't recall seeing all that much; either they're new, only work the North Country , or they're so good that I don't even recognise them. Should be a good set of games.

 

[FlagDUDE08]

Re: RPI & Union @ Clarkson & SLU (2/8, 2/9)

We were up there for '98. Everyone lost power-some for weeks. Our little Hamlet of BML was only out for a couple days-i do not understand why we were spared that time. I have a 35Kw generator up there running Liquid Propane. We had a 500 gallon tank about 80% filled and at full tilt use about 5 gallons per hour. Jenny and I took turns shutting it down so that it would not run out of fuel in the 80 hours that it would last. But after 3 days we had used up only about 200 gallons and were refilled. In the 30+ years we have owned up there we have seen just about everything and anything. Huge snowfalls, microburst winds (I think they had something call a Duracho once), temps down to -30 and lower, etc. We once drove over to the Stillwater Inn for dinner near the Stillwater Reservoir and they reported a temp of lower than -40 (that is as far as their thermometer would go). No wonder the bear all hibernate starting around November!

Most of my town didn't lose power at all. Granted, we did for 5 days because we're on the edge of the town grid, and of course they don't connect between the two towns. A line was down over the road anyway (but still OK to drive over). Telephone was fine.

 

[Ralph Baer]

Re: RPI & Union @ Clarkson & SLU (2/8, 2/9)

We once drove over to the Stillwater Inn for dinner near the Stillwater Reservoir and they reported a temp of lower than -40 (that is as far as their thermometer would go).

Centigrade or Fahrenheit?

 

[engineerhockeyfan]

Re: RPI & Union @ Clarkson & SLU (2/8, 2/9)

I think I've been a bit unfair to Baker in the past because of one call, although he does tend to call fairly tight games (probably to stay in control). Graber and Ciamaga I don't recall seeing all that much; either they're new, only work the North Country , or they're so good that I don't even recognise them. Should be a good set of games.

In my experience with Baker, he is not the worst, but I think he is the most influenced by the crowd. He seems to make a lot of calls based on the noise and not on what he actually sees. JMO.
I really don't know the other two refs.
The crowd could have a lot to do with what is called this weekend. Curadi could have a problem if he hits someone too hard into the boards even if Baker doesn't see it, he will call the noise.

 

[FlagDUDE08]

Re: RPI & Union @ Clarkson & SLU (2/8, 2/9)

In my experience with Baker, he is not the worst, but I think he is the most influenced by the crowd. He seems to make a lot of calls based on the noise and not on what he actually sees. JMO.
I really don't know the other two refs.
The crowd could have a lot to do with what is called this weekend. Curadi could have a problem if he hits someone too hard into the boards even if Baker doesn't see it, he will call the noise.

He's also been known to toss a few expletives, as I recall a censor on a certain network did not catch, even in the on demand archive. I wonder if Stewie actually did address that with those refs after that game...

 

[FreshFish]

Re: RPI & Union @ Clarkson & SLU (2/8, 2/9)

It was indeed 18 in New York and some others, but I don't think it was 18 in most states.

It varied from state to state. Illinois was 21 and Wisconsin was 18 which meant many of my peers in senior year in high school made regular road trips across the border. Massachusetts was 18 when I was in college there.

Congress passed the "National Minimum Drinking Age Act" in 1984, according to Wikipedia. While Congress lacked the Constitutional authority to regulate the drinking age directly (Bill of Rights 10th Amendment); they skirted their lack of direct authority by inserting a provision in the Federal Aid Highway Act that said that any state that had a drinking age less than 21 would lose 10% of its Federal apportionment of highway funds for every year under 21.

From the Wikipedia article:

Between 1970 and 1975, 29 states lowered the MLDA from 21 to 18, 19, or 20. This was primarily due to the passing of the 26th Amendment which lowered the required voting age from 21 to 18.