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RPI Recruit Thread 2012-13

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Re: RPI Recruit Thread 2012-13

Ralph Baer said:
Either illustrates the point. I picked shooting percentage because that shows that they can score. Melanson definitely should shoot more. Even if his %age would go down a bit, it could still be quite good. Percentages about 20%, as both have, indicates that the goalies are saving less than 80% (ignoring ENGs) which indicates that they are well below SA's target of 91%.

On another topic, Parker Reno and Edina have their first game today at 5 PM CST.
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Reno with 2assists as Edina leads 6-2 mid-way in 3rd.... http://www.mnhockeyhub.com/game/show/3789781 Clik on LIVE GAME SUMMARY for stats.
 
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Ralph Baer said:
Don't get me wrong, we need players who can pass also, but our major need on offense in recent years has been finishers. JL seems to be getting there, but IMO that isn't enough. What good would we have gotten from Adam Oates if he didnt have the likes of Carter and Servinis to pass to? (Yes, I know he scored over 30 goals in 84-85, but that was before goalies had pads six feet wide. ;) )

I was just going through the stats and noticed that Melanson had a very high shooting percentage but didn't shoot much.
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You really do not miss much. As I mentioned it has been the major criticism of him the past few years. And yes our problem has been finishers (outside of Polacek we really have not had many in the past few years). Laliberte is coming along quite nicely now and good be a partial answer for us. I think Haggerty and Neal will be of great help also.
 
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DrDemento said:
You really do not miss much. As I mentioned it has been the major criticism of him the past few years. And yes our problem has been finishers (outside of Polacek we really have not had many in the past few years). Laliberte is coming along quite nicely now and good be a partial answer for us. I think Haggerty and Neal will be of great help also.
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That's because I listen to you. :p

It wouldn't surprise me if Melanson's stock is falling with the NHL as shown by his absense in the most recent CSB list.
 
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Code: 
 # Name                Ps commitm. Team (League)                   Year  DOB      Ht    Wt  Hometown             Gm- G- A-  P- PM Next Gm
23 Riley Bourbonnais * LC 09/18/11 Cedar Rapids RoughRiders (USHL) 2013  08/08/93 5'10" 190 Rochester NY         15- 7- 9- 16-  4 11/24/12
20 Jimmy DeVito        RW 01/10/12 Lincoln Stars (USHL)            2013  04/02/94 5'10" 165 Bloomingdale IL      15- 1- 2-  3- 37 11/24/12
22 Charles Manley      LD 12/19/11 Selects Hockey Academy (USEHL)  2014  07/15/96 5'07" 150 Orchard Park NY       0- 0- 0-  0-  0 11/28/12 missing games
26                                 Waterloo Black Hawks (USHL)                                                    4- 0- 1-  1-  2 11/24/12 probably done
27 Drew Melanson #     LW 01/28/11 Omaha Lancers (USHL)            2013  01/10/95 5'10" 160 Paramus NJ           17- 4- 2-  6-  0 11/24/12
 5 Parker Reno #       RD 11/12/12 Edina H.S.(Lake Conf)           2013  01/20/95 6'01" 195 Edina, MN             1- 0- 2-  2-  0 11/24/12
15 Evan Tironese       LW 05/01/12 Alberni Valley Bulldogs (BCHL)  2014  08/02/95 5'09" 163 Qualicum Beach BC    22- 8-13- 21- 26 11/24/12
26 Jake Wood #         LW 01/10/11 Lincoln Stars (USHL)            2013  08/06/93 5'07" 160 Georgetown ON        16- 5- 7- 12- 26 11/24/12
Women
11 Hannah Behounek #    D 06/01/12 Minnetonka H.S. (Lake Conf)     2013  xx/xx/9x x'xx" xxx Minnetonka, MN        3- 0- 0-  0-  4 12/01/12
13 Katie Rooney         F 08/05/12 Buffalo H.S. (Mississippi 8)    2013  xx/xx/9x x'xx" xxx Buffalo, MN           2- 8- 5- 13-  0 11/24/12
xx xxx                  x xx/xx/12 xxx and Ontario Team Blue       2013  xx/xx/9x x'xx" xxx xxx, ON               0- 0- 0-  0-  0 xx/xx/xx

* In the RPI directory
# Known to have signed Letter of Intent
 
Re: RPI Recruit Thread 2012-13

Ralph Baer said:
That's because I listen to you. :p

It wouldn't surprise me if Melanson's stock is falling with the NHL as shown by his absense in the most recent CSB list.
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The longer this lockout lasts, the more difficult it will be to predict how anyone's stock is doing. There are so many players entering the picture each year from here, Canada, and the European countries. Add to that the fact that many aging NHL players still want to play one or two more years(for all sorts of reasons, including financial) that there may be far fewer openings for new talent. This probaly affects fellows like Pirri and D'Amigo who are being held back by this situation more than new draft picks but the system just backs up down the line a bit. In a way, this may actually work well for RPI since with it being more difficult to move up in the pro ranks, more boys may choose the NCAA route and opt for a degree.
 
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DrDemento said:
The longer this lockout lasts, the more difficult it will be to predict how anyone's stock is doing. There are so many players entering the picture each year from here, Canada, and the European countries. Add to that the fact that many aging NHL players still want to play one or two more years(for all sorts of reasons, including financial) that there may be far fewer openings for new talent. This probaly affects fellows like Pirri and D'Amigo who are being held back by this situation more than new draft picks but the system just backs up down the line a bit. In a way, this may actually work well for RPI since with it being more difficult to move up in the pro ranks, more boys may choose the NCAA route and opt for a degree.
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I don't think that the lockout will have much of an effect on players like Melanson who are not yet drafted. I agree that it could hurt players currently trying to make the NHL like JD and BP, but in BP's favor he has been performing quite well in the AHL this season despite all of the NHL players there.

Wait I am violating my own rule! I can't talk about JD and BP here. :o

Back on topic. You did raise an interesting point about more players being attracted to college with the lockout. I think at most that will be marginal. It isn't like the lockout/strike has been going on for five years. OTOH, if the end result is that NHL salaries go down significantly, it could help college hockey for a while, but in the long run it will probably cause more players to pursue different sports.
 
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Ralph Baer said:
I don't think that the lockout will have much of an effect on players like Melanson who are not yet drafted. I agree that it could hurt players currently trying to make the NHL like JD and BP, but in BP's favor he has been performing quite well in the AHL this season despite all of the NHL players there.

Wait I am violating my own rule! I can't talk about JD and BP here. :o

Back on topic. You did raise an interesting point about more players being attracted to college with the lockout. I think at most that will be marginal. It isn't like the lockout/strike has been going on for five years. OTOH, if the end result is that NHL salaries go down significantly, it could help college hockey for a while, but in the long run it will probably cause more players to pursue different sports.
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I would think it's OK if we're trying to make a comparison to an alum, because it's a similar situation where we've learned something. That having been said, I am concerned that perhaps Melanson spent too much time in the small pond, similar to the growing pains that Laliberté saw his freshman year. I know the coaches will help him with that.
 
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FlagDUDE08 said:
I would think it's OK if we're trying to make a comparison to an alum, because it's a similar situation where we've learned something. That having been said, I am concerned that perhaps Melanson spent too much time in the small pond, similar to the growing pains that Laliberté saw his freshman year. I know the coaches will help him with that.
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That could be part of his problem adjusting to the USHL, but there have been several players in recent years from Delbarton who have adjusted to the ECAC quite well. JL's problem last year may have been more connected to an injury than we ever knew or ever will know.
 
Re: RPI Recruit Thread 2012-13

Ralph Baer said:
I don't think that the lockout will have much of an effect on players like Melanson who are not yet drafted. I agree that it could hurt players currently trying to make the NHL like JD and BP, but in BP's favor he has been performing quite well in the AHL this season despite all of the NHL players there.

Wait I am violating my own rule! I can't talk about JD and BP here. :o

Back on topic. You did raise an interesting point about more players being attracted to college with the lockout. I think at most that will be marginal. It isn't like the lockout/strike has been going on for five years. OTOH, if the end result is that NHL salaries go down significantly, it could help college hockey for a while, but in the long run it will probably cause more players to pursue different sports.
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One of the issues that was being discussed early in the CBA/NHL negotiations was lowering the age for CHL players to play in the AHL. Currently it's 20 whereas a player coming from the NCAA's it's 19. If the age were lowered for the CHL players (I'm sure the CHL owners wouldn't want this, for obvious reasons) would it be more enticing for a 17-18 year old to opt to Canada knowing he could start his pro career a year earlier then it currently stands. I've wondered if this was a factor in BP's decision to play NCAA for one year so he could be free to opt to the AHL at 19.
 
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turk181 said:
One of the issues that was being discussed early in the CBA/NHL negotiations was lowering the age for CHL players to play in the AHL. Currently it's 20 whereas a player coming from the NCAA's it's 19. If the age were lowered for the CHL players (I'm sure the CHL owners wouldn't want this, for obvious reasons) would it be more enticing for a 17-18 year old to opt to Canada knowing he could start his pro career a year earlier then it currently stands. I've wondered if this was a factor in BP's decision to play NCAA for one year so he could be free to opt to the AHL at 19.
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It might have been for BP and also for other who take the college route, but then there are cases like JD that end up spending time in the OHL anyway.
 
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Ralph Baer said:
It might have been for BP and also for other who teak the colelge route, but then there are cases like JD that end up spening time in the OHL anyway.
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I think going to the OHL was the last thing Jerry expected. IIRC, his Dad was pretty PO'd.
 
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turk181 said:
I think going to the OHL was the last thing Jerry expected. IIRC, his Dad was pretty PO'd.
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I agree, but it seemed last year to have helped him, although he might have ended up the same with a second year at RPI.
 
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Ralph Baer said:
I agree, but it seemed last year to have helped him, although he might have ended up the same with a second year at RPI.
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Agreed-i think a second year at RPI would have helped both JD and BP. I know whoever was advising them felt at the time the decision they made was correct but I just sense that their value coul dnot have decreased any with another year in Troy and perhaps even increased. As far as their respective chances for the NHL-who knows what this lockout is doing to that and the longer this goes on (and it does appear it will continue perahps for the entire season to be lost) it gets even more complicated.
 
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