RPI Off-Season 2013 Part I: We Will Get Our Title Next Season

[Wicked Slappaahs]

I would at the very least match the number that Gwoz was getting at DU (221K). With the football coaching situation in flux it is important that Shirley keep Seth to provide stability at the Tute.

. FWIW Other posters have said Gwoz' contract was closer to $400k with benies and incentives.

 

[rvd5star69]

Either way, its gonna cost Shirley some dough...unless Monty's waiting in the wings.

Or Ben Barr

 

[Wicked Slappaahs]

Wicked-which Audi do you want? Jen would never part with the 2 that she can reach the pedals and still see over the dash. Pinky rings?-surely you jest. Jenny speaks 2 languages-Italian and French-the only words she knows are Bvlgari and Cartier.

Doc I'm not a selfish person - I can muddle by with the R8. FD can have the Instigator.

 

[DrDemento]

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Doc I'm not a selfish person - I can muddle by with the R8. FD can have the Instigator.

It is an R8 GT to be precise. Still trying to figure this monster out. I have had lots of cars and several high performance sports vehicles (always thought my 911 was the best) but this one is just ridiculous. Even my neighbor who has a Veyron, a Testarossa, and a Countach in his garage lately has been thinking about getting one. With the number of cars we have, none get much mileage on them so whichever one you end up with you will be getting something that is like new. The oldest is Jen's Arrest Me Red A4 (stick shift of course) and that is a 1996 with only 35,000 miles on it.

Read lower on the thread that the DU position paid closer to 400K with incentives-now that is even more tempting. I really hope they do not offer this to our guy. I may not always agree with some of his strategic moves but he is just plain good for this program and given some time will have us as an annual top 16 team.

 

[Waite21]

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I would at the very least match the number that Gwoz was getting at DU (221K). With the football coaching situation in flux it is important that Shirley keep Seth to provide stability at the Tute.

Oh, there's stability at the Tute, all right. You just have to look at a couple of other sports.

Mike Griffin and Karl Steffen took over as head basketball and baseball coaches in the 1984-85 academic year.

I truly do hope that Seth Appert will be back behind the RPI bench next year, but ultimately, I doubt that he will remain at the Tute as long as Griffin and Steffen have. That just doesn't happen very often in Division I sports.

 

[Ralph Baer]

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If it works for us with Mike Adessa, it might work for them with you. Wasn't Adessa a football lineman? Although it wouldn't shock if he had had some prior coaching experience in hockey...

He was indeed a lineman. I don't know what experience he had as a hockey coach.

 

[Ralph Baer]

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Today is 2 April 2013. There are 186 days until RPI's next game.


This is based upon 5 October 2013 for the start of next season.

 

[Ralph Baer]

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I would at the very least match the number that Gwoz was getting at DU (221K). With the football coaching situation in flux it is important that Shirley keep Seth to provide stability at the Tute.

Personally, I don't see any connection between the two.

 

[Senna]

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Aspy - not to get you all fired up again, but I'm watching sports radio (Mike & Mike), and all they've been discussing for the past 30 min is some issue with a PAC 10 basketball official targeting a team because of the coach and making some comment about him.... Quite a discussion.

 

[Wicked Slappaahs]

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He was indeed a lineman. I don't know what experience he had as a hockey coach.

Holy Cross his alma mater - 3 years as HC , 2 as AC, prior to RPI. Before that he coached H.S. hockey in MA.

 

[engineerhockeyfan]

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Our Great Coach mentioned as candidate for DU job in Denver Post article.

http://www.denverpost.com/du/ci_22916338/george-gwozdecky-resigns-du-hockey-coach-after-19

I just had a chance to read this article, and it seems to me that Denver just lost a coach with a 443-267-64 record in 19 years, and are considering SA with a losing record.
That doesn't make any sense to me. I jsut feel that there are more experienced coaches with much better records than SA to choose from.
Don't get me wrong, I love SA and hope that he stays with us at least long enough to show what the current group of players can do, but I don't see his resume as something that Denver would be looking for.
I think that Miami has a lot more to worry about than we do. That is a coach that has the kind of record that Denver should be looking for. JMO

 

[FlagDUDE08]

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I just had a chance to read this article, and it seems to me that Denver just lost a coach with a 443-267-64 record in 19 years, and are considering SA with a losing record.
That doesn't make any sense to me. I jsut feel that there are more experienced coaches with much better records than SA to choose from.
Don't get me wrong, I love SA and hope that he stays with us at least long enough to show what the current group of players can do, but I don't see his resume as something that Denver would be looking for.
I think that Miami has a lot more to worry about than we do. That is a coach that has the kind of record that Denver should be looking for. JMO

Perhaps what they see is that the last time the guy they just sacked [GG] was successful, he had this guy [SA] with him. Perhaps he [SA] is the key to their success, and so they should look at him as a candidate.

 

[AspyDad]

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Aspy - not to get you all fired up again, but I'm watching sports radio (Mike & Mike), and all they've been discussing for the past 30 min is some issue with a PAC 10 basketball official targeting a team because of the coach and making some comment about him.... Quite a discussion.

Thank you Senna. Many people on this thread have called me a conspiracy theorist, crank, tin foil hat man ( I love it BTW, pls keep it up) but Paul Stewart cannot carry the bias he does that was exposed by Jason Klump and it not filter down to his guys. Paul Stewart must go. Klump has reported that he is leaving soon. I was the first to make the point that while his guys were having a sub par year with the whistle he was in Russia drinking vodka and screwing up the KHL. This board is lucky to have me and yes I have been receiving overtures from the Denver thread.

 

[Ralph Baer]

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I just had a chance to read this article, and it seems to me that Denver just lost a coach with a 443-267-64 record in 19 years, and are considering SA with a losing record.
That doesn't make any sense to me. I jsut feel that there are more experienced coaches with much better records than SA to choose from.
Don't get me wrong, I love SA and hope that he stays with us at least long enough to show what the current group of players can do, but I don't see his resume as something that Denver would be looking for.
I think that Miami has a lot more to worry about than we do. That is a coach that has the kind of record that Denver should be looking for. JMO

I understand your reasoning. Indeed it was what I first thought of. However, SA can say that he has improved RPI during his tenure, and in addition, I am convinced that he could sell ice cubes to eskimos. If he is interest, and he probably is, he will be looked at seriously.

 

[Ralph Baer]

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BTW, if we lose SA, hopefully we have already an interested replacement in mind. The lengthy search when SA was hired hurt us a lot.

 

[jmhusker]

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I just had a chance to read this article, and it seems to me that Denver just lost a coach with a 443-267-64 record in 19 years, and are considering SA with a losing record.
That doesn't make any sense to me. I jsut feel that there are more experienced coaches with much better records than SA to choose from.
Don't get me wrong, I love SA and hope that he stays with us at least long enough to show what the current group of players can do, but I don't see his resume as something that Denver would be looking for.
I think that Miami has a lot more to worry about than we do. That is a coach that has the kind of record that Denver should be looking for. JMO

I agree with this 100%. The real question though is what happened to cause the firing in the first place? Either he was looking for some huge amount of money or he wasn't. If the former, then will they be willing to spend the money to steal a coach from somewhere else (I doubt it). If the latter then what were the circumstances becomes a critical factor as to whether other coaches would want to coach under that regime.

If I'm DU... I start my search with Norm Bazin at UML. He spent 8 years at Colorado College previously so he is no stranger to the area. In a way, he is a similar candidate to Appert but his results at the D1 level are more impressive.

 

[jmhusker]

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BTW, if we lose SA, hopefully we have already an interested replacement in mind. The lengthy search when SA was hired hurt us a lot.

If the CAPS fall out of contention and Oates gets the door then the timing would be perfect for us.

 

[Ralph Baer]

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If the CAPS fall out of contention and Oates gets the door then the timing would be perfect for us.

I would think that the Caps would give him more than one shortened year. Also, he would probably have to take a large pay cut.

 

[jmhusker]

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I would think that the Caps would give him more than one shortened year. Also, he would probably have to take a large pay cut.

I agree but you never know. It would be a raise at first because the CAPS would still be paying him.

 

[FreshFish]

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Copied from the "Gwoz Resigns" thread, take it for what it's worth....

Here's the dealio.

Gwozdecky had a 10 year contract signed in [midseason] 2002 when DU was #1 in the country and Michigan State & Sconnie were about to conduct coaching searches. Then they extended after the 2004 Natty to stretch the contract expire after next season. Very unusual provision in the contract was a $1 million dollar annuity that would only be paid at the end of the contract. This was back when a $1 million actually got you more than a cup of coffee and a haircut. But I digress.

Around 2009 Gwozdecky wants to extend his contract to carry him to retirement. At the same time DU has re-upped basketball coach Joe Scott, now the highest paid person at the university, while the hoops team is lucky to draw 500 fans a night. Someone in the Gwozdecky camp runs to the Denver Post and all the juicy numbers are splashed all over town.

In June 2009 DU signed lax coach Bill Tierney for significantly less than market value and less than Tierney made at Princeton. Suddenly DU is on the map in lax, and hockey takes a little dip in prestige at DU.

In April 2010, the Ohio State job opens up and Gwozdecky goes from consultant to candidate in the blink of an eye. But to get Gwozdecky, OSU would have to pay the annuity, give Gwozdecky his money and spend money for all the bells and whistles Gwozdecky would need to build a winner. Ohio State, with all the money in the world, says "No thank you."

DU continues to tell everyone they are going to re-sign Gwozdecky & Tierney to deals, but there's no hurry with Gwozdecky because of the annuity.

Between 2010 and present DU gets knocked around like a beachball because of conference affiliation [WCHA->NCHC, Sunbelt->WAC->Summit League], spends millions trying to find a home for hoops and and finds out that hockey, skiing, lacrosse and gymnastics success isn't worth a crap in the new world order. Especially when you don't have a football program.

So the decision was made a few weeks ago to buy out Gwozdecky's contract and use the same formula to find a coach they used in 1996 hiring Gwozdecky. Funny thing is, they had a deal in place and a handshake with Maine's Shawn Walsh in 1994 and he stabbed DU in the back, so Gwozdecky fell into DU's lap.

If DU gets the guy they are targeting, you'll find similarities to Gwozdecky hiring in 1996. But is not Enrico, any Gwozdecky disciple or a DU alum.

That last sentence might help a few here feel better, perhaps.

Given our success this year and where we seem to be poised for next year, it would be very good for the program for Our Great Coach not to be even a candidate in the DU search.