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RPI III: Revenge of the Seth

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GR: not sure if you saw my post a while back. Will buy those tix from you IF you still have 'em...if not, no biggie:) :)

I do still have them. I thought I replied somewhere, but it might have been the score thread and been overlooked or something.

Let me know the next time you're in town for a home game and we can get together. I believe the rest of the season I'll be in 16/J/10-11 which is right at the corner of the railing at the top of the steps in that corner.
 
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Incredible game at Princeton-best effing power play I have seen at RPI in over 20 years. When we are healthy-we are a team to be reckoned with. Everyone played well. Jen and I sat in the midst of all the Princeton fanatics. Even they had to marvel at the puck control we displayed on special teams. We just need to play like this in every game from now on-the Tute is back!!
 
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I've said it a million times. Quality, not quantity. Outshot by 66-30, but outscored the opponents 8-2. WHAT.

Right before Bergin's goal, the ESPNU commentors were complaining that RPI wasn't shooting the puck. I said it out loud. "That's OK, when they shoot it, they'll score." Bing.
 
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The last goal was as pretty as any I have seen. Polacek has a rifle for a shot and D'Amigo just set him up on the left side perfectly. It was just a thing of beauty to behold. The next 13 games should be a lot of fun.
 
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BTW, Hobey Baker is a lousy place to televise from. All of the TV angles were either behind the (nonframeless) glass or the netting. Of course I doubt if you guys have any complaints of the view. ;)
 
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BTW, Hobey Baker is a lousy place to televise from. All of the TV angles were either behind the (nonframeless) glass or the netting. Of course I doubt if you guys have any complaints of the view. ;)

Yeah, it was quite bad. The down-the-ice shot with the heavy netting (was it even netting? Looked almost like metal mesh) was appalling. The Field House truly is a blessing from a TV point of view, and it'll get even better for next season when we have a dedicated camera platform atop the new structure being built in Section 1 and our own production room under Section 17. The Field House staff has been extremely accommodating to us, and we are quite thankful.

We're going to try to shoot 1/22 and 1/23 against Dartmouth and Harvard; no guarantees on the production quality as the size of the crew may be quite small as those games are still during our break. I'll be there, at the very least.

Hopefully we'll conserve enough momentum next week against Union to trounce two of this season's dogs at home.
 
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Or 68-34. But...

Let us not quibble and argue over 'oo killed 'oo... :p

Point being, got out shot 2 to 1, and we out scored them 4 to 1. That gets my star of approval. For years at the Field House we've heard "SHOOT IT" and "SHOOT THE PUCK" and "****IN SHOOT IT ALREADY" ad nauseum. If you're just throwing the puck on net, you're not getting quality chances.

It's worth noting that some teams have to do that because they don't have A) the patience and B) the talent required to maintain possession and good defense while working to create those golden opportunities. That's how you score on 1 in 4 shots.
 
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The last goal was as pretty as any I have seen. Polacek has a rifle for a shot and D'Amigo just set him up on the left side perfectly. It was just a thing of beauty to behold. The next 13 games should be a lot of fun.

The best part about it is the location - near the boards - and the fact that Polacek was kinda fading TOWARD the boards when he one-timed it. Freakin' sweet. Great pass. Great shot. Great goal.
 
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If I was a Princeton fan not only would I be one of the very few but I would've been annoyed with how the ESPNU broadcasters were throwing compliments all over RPI and couldn't drop to their knees fast enough for both D'Amigo and Polacek.

This is... Quite the befuddling situation - I'm not used to hearing these things. Perhaps it's time to start getting used to it.
 
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Congrats to Chase Polacek, with his goal today he took over the top spot in league scoring. Should make for a fun night on Saturday... :eek: :D

http://www.collegehockeystats.net/0910/confstats/ecachm

I'd say he's got at least an outside shot for POTW, but if the league wants to continue to sleep on him, I won't argue.

York, OTOH, needs to be GOTW or heads need to roll. 66 saves on 68 shots? What's the excuse going to be this week?
 
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Incredible game at Princeton-best effing power play I have seen at RPI in over 20 years. When we are healthy-we are a team to be reckoned with. Everyone played well. Jen and I sat in the midst of all the Princeton fanatics. Even they had to marvel at the puck control we displayed on special teams. We just need to play like this in every game from now on-the Tute is back!!

Dr.D, are you the one who went searching for me? The one time I stepped away from my seat, I was told someone from the forums came looking for me...

Wonderful game. Made the trip well worth it. The energy, the enthusiasm from the players, it is palpable.

Time to give Union their first league loss this Saturday.
 
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The best part about it is the location - near the boards - and the fact that Polacek was kinda fading TOWARD the boards when he one-timed it. Freakin' sweet. Great pass. Great shot. Great goal.

In no way am I saying that this was a Mario Lemieux goal-but darn it that is just how he used to set up in that exact same spot and shoot it on the fly and score. Just a great goal.
 
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I'd say he's got at least an outside shot for POTW, but if the league wants to continue to sleep on him, I won't argue.

York, OTOH, needs to be GOTW or heads need to roll. 66 saves on 68 shots? What's the excuse going to be this week?

I agree on both counts. Although if they are not selected, it will only serve to add fuel to the RPI Hockey brushfire...:D
 
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Dr.D, are you the one who went searching for me? The one time I stepped away from my seat, I was told someone from the forums came looking for me...

Wonderful game. Made the trip well worth it. The energy, the enthusiasm from the players, it is palpable.

Time to give Union their first league loss this Saturday.

Jenny and I went around a little and were looking for you to say hello-we were in fur coats and both wearing RPI red championship sweaters from 1985. We were sitting right behind the penalty box for most of the game-we have gotten those seats virtually every year.
 
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He was in a foot race for a loose puck behind our net and the Q guy beat him to it, Bergin extended one arm and pushed the kid, who went down hard into the boards. I understand the crackdown, but I personally didn't think it rose to getting tossed...using the free hand probably did him in. In the 3rd, a Q kid cross-checked one of our guys hard from behind into the boards and got 2 mins.

I didn't have the best angle on the play (was standing on the concourse at center ice) but I really thought the call on Bergin should have been a minor. It looked like the guy was far enough from the boards that he landed flat on the ice and and then went into the boards. In either case the obvious cross-check from behind just a few feet off the boards (if I remember where you guys said you were sitting it would have been right in front of you) was just as bad or worse and given the precedent I was very surprised it was only a minor.
 
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Let us not quibble and argue over 'oo killed 'oo... :p

Point being, got out shot 2 to 1, and we out scored them 4 to 1. That gets my star of approval. For years at the Field House we've heard "SHOOT IT" and "SHOOT THE PUCK" and "****IN SHOOT IT ALREADY" ad nauseum. If you're just throwing the puck on net, you're not getting quality chances.

It's worth noting that some teams have to do that because they don't have A) the patience and B) the talent required to maintain possession and good defense while working to create those golden opportunities. That's how you score on 1 in 4 shots.

not to be a jerk or anything but O'Grady's goal came on "just throwing it at the net" from Brutlag, it was not a great shot by any means, and while Pirri did get position for Jerry's goal - the shot was still deflected and essentially "thrown" at the bodies in front of the net.

The key is - get the freaking puck to the net. You don't have to get a perfect pass every time. Having a high goals/shot is nice, but putting the puck on net creates a ton of chances - Princeton had quite a few that they SHOULD have finished and came by just putting the puck towards the net.

It's great that we have the skill to control the puck, but we still do lose it by playing around with it too much - whether we're on the PP or not.
We can't have stellar goal tending every single night, we're still going to need to put more shots on net when we have the puck in the offensive zone.

TL;DR Putting the puck on net doesn't hurt, goalies make mistakes(I think we should know that) just like everyone else, but obviously if we can get a quality chance its better - but if theres not much, throw it at the goal.
 
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not to be a jerk or anything but O'Grady's goal came on "just throwing it at the net" from Brutlag, it was not a great shot by any means, and while Pirri did get position for Jerry's goal - the shot was still deflected and essentially "thrown" at the bodies in front of the net.

The key is - get the freaking puck to the net. You don't have to get a perfect pass every time. Having a high goals/shot is nice, but putting the puck on net creates a ton of chances - Princeton had quite a few that they SHOULD have finished and came by just putting the puck towards the net.

It's great that we have the skill to control the puck, but we still do lose it by playing around with it too much - whether we're on the PP or not.
We can't have stellar goal tending every single night, we're still going to need to put more shots on net when we have the puck in the offensive zone.

TL;DR Putting the puck on net doesn't hurt, goalies make mistakes(I think we should know that) just like everyone else, but obviously if we can get a quality chance its better - but if theres not much, throw it at the goal.

You really don't know what you're getting at if your complaint about O'Grady's goal was "he just threw it at the net." That's what he does. Brutlag took the right shot, it was saved. O'Grady was in the right place at the right time and took his opportunity. That's not a function of just putting the puck on the net. That's a function of Brutlag taking his shot. You score when you shoot the puck at the right time. And guess what? This weekend, that's exactly what we did. When it wasn't the right time, by and large, we weren't shooting. We were maintaining possession, which has a double purpose. It gives us time to find the right opening, and it keeps the other team from being able to go on offense. You lose that when you just throw the puck on net.

When you are passing and maintaining control of the puck as well as this team has done this past weekend, there's no need to waste that control by throwing the puck on net pell mell. True, you can sometimes lose control of the puck by playing with it too much, but you're also pretty likely to lose control if you can't score on your shots. What's the purpose of just shooting it if it's a low probability shot? More than likely, you're just turning over the puck. Some teams have to take low probability shots because they're just as likely to turn the puck over after a few passes. But if that's not happening, why turn it over with a shot that's just thrown in there?

The Bergin and Polacek goals specifically were functions of patience over substance. They waited for the perfect opportunity - in Bergin's case, he found the right shooting situation, in D'Amigo's case he found the perfect passing lane - and pulled the trigger on more productive shots that had a better chance of hitting the back of the net, and they did. If Pirri had just shot it instead of looking for D'Amigo on that last goal, Polacek never gets his opportunity to score, and Pirri probably doesn't score either.

Patience is the sign of a discipline and mature team. Throwing shots on net shows a complete lack of confidence in your ability to maintain control. They haven't done anything to suggest that they will have a problem maintaining control when they have possession. Absolutely no reason to blow that advantage away by just taking silly shots. They were just outshot 2-to-1 and managed to outscore their opponents 4-to-1. So obviously, it's working.

By the way, while you complain about other teams doing it and claiming that we can't depend on solid goaltending... why not? The defense has been superb, keeping their heads even when the team doesn't have the puck, and making a lot of York's saves easier. Other times, he's been there to make the big stops when they count. He could do without wandering so much, but nobody's perfect.

We don't get to dictate what other teams decide to do when they have the puck unless our defense forces them to do things they'd rather not. If they're going to be forced to take low probability shots all game, I trust Allen York to make those saves.
 
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