RPI Hockey 2019 - 2020 Part II: Moving on with 2020 Vision!

[Ralph Baer]

Re: RPI Hockey 2019 - 2020 Part II: Moving on with 2020 Vision!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Coach Smith, Will Reilly and Chase Zieky discuss the senior class and its final two regular season home games: <a href="https://t.co/boJ0K6p8c8">https://t.co/boJ0K6p8c8</a><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RPIHockey?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#RPIHockey</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ECACHockey?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ECACHockey</a></p>— RPI Men's Hockey (@RPI_Hockey) <a href="https://twitter.com/RPI_Hockey/status/1230564058610327554?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 20, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[troyboy]

The team has scored a total of 78 goals this year. Six of your the eight seniors account for 39 goals. Of the 17 forwards/defensemen that are returning 3 have scored more then 5 goals or more this year (one defenseman and two forwards). Haulbauer hasn't produced any offense this year, not in the way he contributed last year. Hopefully its just a sophomore slump. Linden and Ashcroft have just started to produce offensively in last couple of weeks. Dubinsky as well prior to his injury. All three of these forwards though have been playing with seniors with the exception of Ashbrook who also has OV on his line with Gornal. My take is that this team will be strong defensively but short on the offense for next year. Only two forwards in the sophomore class and two freshman are producing any points. The team is losing 6 seniors that are producing. There is only 1 Junior forward and Jerry is not producing any offense. I don't see any offense coming from the remaining sophomore or freshman forwards on this roster. Incoming freshman need assistance to get their feet on the ground so at the least the first semester next year is going to experience a lot of short comings IMO with respect to offense. I think its going to be tough going at goal scoring next season.

We are a goalie centric team I believe Savory is the best goalie in the country and kudos to the staff for digging him up alot of people missed on that myself included. Take him away and we're Union and I see no indication that the under classmen in either there junior careers or at RPI so far that hints they will produce offensively it appears the league seems to be a little down this year I'm not sure 79 goals would would have gotten us this far in the past but everybody is dealing with the same set of circumstances and we are where we are I'll take it and hope we have a couple of Savory's hiding in the weeds for the future.

 

[Ralph Baer]

Re: RPI Hockey 2019 - 2020 Part II: Moving on with 2020 Vision!

We got SD and TN.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In what's become a tradition for <a href="https://twitter.com/usahockey?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@usahockey</a>'s <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/HWAA?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#HWAA</a>, we salute the MVPs from each of the 41 states (and DC) producing NCAA Division I men's players this year: <a href="https://t.co/KqsPo04ZMc">https://t.co/KqsPo04ZMc</a> <a href="https://t.co/navYkLn0ig">pic.twitter.com/navYkLn0ig</a></p>— College Hockey Inc. (@collegehockey) <a href="https://twitter.com/collegehockey/status/1230627245884149760?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 20, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[rpi82]

Re: RPI Hockey 2019 - 2020 Part II: Moving on with 2020 Vision!

The team has scored a total of 78 goals this year. Six of your the eight seniors account for 39 goals. Of the 17 forwards/defensemen that are returning 3 have scored more then 5 goals or more this year (one defenseman and two forwards). Haulbauer hasn't produced any offense this year, not in the way he contributed last year. Hopefully its just a sophomore slump. Linden and Ashcroft have just started to produce offensively in last couple of weeks. Dubinsky as well prior to his injury. All three of these forwards though have been playing with seniors with the exception of Ashbrook who also has OV on his line with Gornal. My take is that this team will be strong defensively but short on the offense for next year. Only two forwards in the sophomore class and two freshman are producing any points. The team is losing 6 seniors that are producing. There is only 1 Junior forward and Jerry is not producing any offense. I don't see any offense coming from the remaining sophomore or freshman forwards on this roster. Incoming freshman need assistance to get their feet on the ground so at the least the first semester next year is going to experience a lot of short comings IMO with respect to offense. I think its going to be tough going at goal scoring next season.

I understand your perspective, but it should also be noted that at least 1/2 of those seniors have significantly increased their scoring. Guys like Gornall and Morello have certainly produced beyond what I would have expected when the season started. I think the players have bought into what Smith is teaching and its helped them improve not just season to season but as the season has gone along. Hopefully we'll see a similar progression from our current underclassmen. I don't expect to see an offensive juggernaut next season, but I'm hopefull we'll see a continuation of the grind it out offense that's shown some growth this year.

I'm also wondering about Burgess. He's shown flashes this year of the player we thought we'd have before his devastating knee injury. However, I wonder whether that will be enough for his draft team, Ottawa, to want to use one of their 50 contracts on him. While he can also become a free agent if he doesn't sign before this year's draft, his best chance is probably with the Senators as they are a weak team with roughly 1/2 their signed contracts expiring this summer. Perhaps they will offer him. My guess, however, is that he'll mostly receive ECHL offers. At 24, perhaps he'll decide that a graduate degree has greater long term value than a year in the low minors.

 

[Ralph Baer]

Re: RPI Hockey 2019 - 2020 Part II: Moving on with 2020 Vision!

I'm also wondering about Burgess. He's shown flashes this year of the player we thought we'd have before his devastating knee injury. However, I wonder whether that will be enough for his draft team, Ottawa, to want to use one of their 50 contracts on him. While he can also become a free agent if he doesn't sign before this year's draft, his best chance is probably with the Senators as they are a weak team with roughly 1/2 their signed contracts expiring this summer. Perhaps they will offer him. My guess, however, is that he'll mostly receive ECHL offers. At 24, perhaps he'll decide that a graduate degree has greater long term value than a year in the low minors.

I have had that thought also. Of course he could also get a graduate degree somewhere else, but it is a possibility.

 

[DrDemento]

Re: RPI Hockey 2019 - 2020 Part II: Moving on with 2020 Vision!

I have had that thought also. Of course he could also get a graduate degree somewhere else, but it is a possibility.

If he has the eligibility left, and is looking at a graduate degree elsewhere, does he have to sit out a period of time or not?

 

[DrDemento]

Re: RPI Hockey 2019 - 2020 Part II: Moving on with 2020 Vision!

I understand your perspective, but it should also be noted that at least 1/2 of those seniors have significantly increased their scoring. Guys like Gornall and Morello have certainly produced beyond what I would have expected when the season started. I think the players have bought into what Smith is teaching and its helped them improve not just season to season but as the season has gone along. Hopefully we'll see a similar progression from our current underclassmen. I don't expect to see an offensive juggernaut next season, but I'm hopefull we'll see a continuation of the grind it out offense that's shown some growth this year.

This is another way of saying what i posted earlier and of course I am thinking similarly. Looking at losing 40 of our 78 goals scored thus far this season, but with even a modest increase from the 3 classes remaining, just how much do we really need from an entering freshman class? From the careful postings that RB has on the recruit thread it sure looks like we have some offense that we can expect. Plus, there is always the possibility that the incoming class just might be able to contribute faster in a Smith run system than we were used to in the SA system. I appreciate everything our senior class has done, I think we have some really fabulous boys that we are losing at the end of this year. But it is not like we are losing any one that was a dominant goal scorer. it is not that long ago in my memory that we lost a 31 goal scorer (Tapper) or a 30 goal scorer (Healey) that was a significant percentage of our scoring all wrapped up into one boy!
Goal scoring has come down considerably over the years and it appears the way Coach Smith is constructing his team, we are setting up to be a defensive power for years to come. (Cornell anyone??) I think with the development of Kjellberg, Klee, Fernier, et al that scoring even 2-3 goals per game for us might prove decisive.
This seasons is not over just yet and hopefully will not be for 5 more weekends (fingers crossed) so we may yet see a bit more of the underclass play and development. But, it sure is becoming fun again to watch this team!!

 

[DrDemento]

Re: RPI Hockey 2019 - 2020 Part II: Moving on with 2020 Vision!

We are a goalie centric team I believe Savory is the best goalie in the country and kudos to the staff for digging him up alot of people missed on that myself included. Take him away and we're Union and I see no indication that the under classmen in either there junior careers or at RPI so far that hints they will produce offensively it appears the league seems to be a little down this year I'm not sure 79 goals would would have gotten us this far in the past but everybody is dealing with the same set of circumstances and we are where we are I'll take it and hope we have a couple of Savory's hiding in the weeds for the future.

I have been saying that Savory has the tools and potential to be a top goalie in the country ever since last year. Glad someone agrees with me! When he is hot, he just has that swagger and can control the entire game. I had hoped we could just provide him with the proper defensive pairings so that he could shine and I believe we are getting there rapidly. The young defense is improving (still some glitches to figure out) but for the first time in years I can see some light appearing in the distance of the tunnel. We have had some wonderful goal tending over the years (I only go back as far as Bill Sack). But if he can stay healthy, Savory will compare well against all of them. I have vivid recollections of Tamburro getting hot in late 1995, Kasdorf being a wall in 2013, York being solid in 2011, the above mentioned Sack in 1964, and of course, the almost unbeatable Laing in 2000. They all seemed to have some things in common and one thing stood out - they just exuded that confidence on the ice and made other teams think twice about if and how to beat them for a goal. Savory has shown flashes of that.

 

[rpi82]

If he has the eligibility left, and is looking at a graduate degree elsewhere, does he have to sit out a period of time or not?

Not. If he graduates he can go to another D1 school as Melanson and Hayhurst did without sitting out. Of course, I'm hoping that a program on the rise would generate a different decision this time.

 

[QUAlum2004]

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Weekend Preview: RPI/Union

https://www.bobcatshockeyblog.com/2020/02/weekend-preview-rpiunion.html

 

[Ralph Baer]

Re: RPI Hockey 2019 - 2020 Part II: Moving on with 2020 Vision!

Weekend Preview: RPI/Union

https://www.bobcatshockeyblog.com/2020/02/weekend-preview-rpiunion.html

Thanks. Always good to read an evaluation from the other side.

 

[Ralph Baer]

Re: RPI Hockey 2019 - 2020 Part II: Moving on with 2020 Vision!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/Lions?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Lions</a> head coach Matt Patricia visits his alma-mater '96 <a href="https://twitter.com/RPIAthletics?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RPIAthletics</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/rpi?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@rpi</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RPI?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#RPI</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@NFL</a> <a href="https://t.co/PqAqrpQJr5">https://t.co/PqAqrpQJr5</a> <a href="https://t.co/Y6bzrE8Yfm">pic.twitter.com/Y6bzrE8Yfm</a></p>— Erica Miller (@EricaPhotog) <a href="https://twitter.com/EricaPhotog/status/1228429281639923712?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 14, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

A 20+ minute video of his visit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9teYugAZBgo

He talks nonstop.

 

[Ralph Baer]

Re: RPI Hockey 2019 - 2020 Part II: Moving on with 2020 Vision!

I don't know what this is.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Make sure to follow <a href="https://twitter.com/NCAAIceHockey?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@NCAAIceHockey</a> on Instagram, because <a href="https://twitter.com/RPI_Hockey?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RPI_Hockey</a> is taking over tonight! <a href="https://t.co/XU6xG9xvB9">pic.twitter.com/XU6xG9xvB9</a></p>— RPI Athletics (@RPIAthletics) <a href="https://twitter.com/RPIAthletics/status/1230916905625686017?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 21, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[DrDemento]

Re: RPI Hockey 2019 - 2020 Part II: Moving on with 2020 Vision!

Not. If he graduates he can go to another D1 school as Melanson and Hayhurst did without sitting out. Of course, I'm hoping that a program on the rise would generate a different decision this time.

Thank you for the insight. Melanson had a very decent year at BU and an NCAA appearance.

 

[sezenack]

Re: RPI Hockey 2019 - 2020 Part II: Moving on with 2020 Vision!

I don't know what this is.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Make sure to follow <a href="https://twitter.com/NCAAIceHockey?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@NCAAIceHockey</a> on Instagram, because <a href="https://twitter.com/RPI_Hockey?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RPI_Hockey</a> is taking over tonight! <a href="https://t.co/XU6xG9xvB9">pic.twitter.com/XU6xG9xvB9</a></p>— RPI Athletics (@RPIAthletics) <a href="https://twitter.com/RPIAthletics/status/1230916905625686017?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 21, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Essentially, what that means RB, is that RPI players will be controlling and posting on the NCAA Ice Hockey instagram account today (i.e. "takeover"). They have posted locker room videos and some other stuff

 

[sezenack]

Re: RPI Hockey 2019 - 2020 Part II: Moving on with 2020 Vision!

I have been saying since the beginning of this season that Burgess can come back for one more year. He has 3 options.

1) He can go pro. If the Senators offer him, I think he takes that, but I don't think they will. He could also sign a PTO with an AHL team or an ECHL deal. The question is if he'd rather return to college or play in the minors without an NHL contract.
2) He can come back here. I am sure Smith would love to have him back especially with the number of contributing seniors we are losing. Having him back would give us a very good offensive player for one more season and ease the pain of our departures.
3) He can grad transfer. We hope that he would rather return to RPI, but you never know. Arizona State could be very appealing to Burgess if they want him because he could return home and play near his family.

Of course, these options have all been mentioned, but I thought I'd put them all in one post

 

[SnowDogFlyer]

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Does RPI stream hockey games?! I click on the schedule, it takes me to RPI sports and there are no links to the stream...!? Thanks.

 

[SnowDogFlyer]

Re: RPI Hockey 2019 - 2020 Part II: Moving on with 2020 Vision!

all of the RPI TV links are dead, take you to replays only...no live streaming. i finally found it, middle of 2nd period....followed a link to instagram, then there was link to Youtube....some boiler room operation that RPI TV...

 

[jericho]

all of the RPI TV links are dead, take you to replays only...no live streaming. i finally found it, middle of 2nd period....followed a link to instagram, then there was link to Youtube....some boiler room operation that RPI TV...

LOL. Your concern is not duly noted

 

[fr. joe]

Re: RPI Hockey 2019 - 2020 Part II: Moving on with 2020 Vision!

A few changes tonight:

Cornell is in first (32), Clarkson's loss drops them to second (30).

Harvard is now in third (25) with Quinnipiac in fourth (24).

RPI is alone in fifth (21). [Senior Night looms large... big points out there for the taking.]

Dartmouth is now sixth (20), Colgate falls to seventh (19) and Yale is eighth (18).

Brown is ninth (16). [Picking up points weekly.] Union in tenth (12). Princeton is eleventh (8). SLU in twelfth (3).