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RPI Hockey 2012-2013 Part IV: Not A Finished Product Yet

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You caught that. :D It was my intention to include both directions.

If we can put together a line that can neutralize the Flanagan line-and that is really saying something-we can do well against SLU. I am not sure anyone has truly stoped them this year. But a healthy Tinordi/McGowan/Neal line would be a very good match for them. Their ability to forecheck can do a lot of what is necessary to prevent their potent offense. Both teams have improved greatly from the beginning of the year. I still think we can match up well with them-but as we have been doing the past 2 months-we can only focus on th first game and get the best result we can before thinking about saturday.
 
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Is Tinordi healthy? And who do we take out if he is? Fulton has a scoring streak on the line and is playing inspired hockey. The depth on this team hs come out of nowhere.
Just a big confidence booster.
 
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Is Tinordi healthy? And who do we take out if he is? Fulton has a scoring streak on the line and is playing inspired hockey. The depth on this team hs come out of nowhere.
Just a big confidence booster.

After what I've seen this year, along with the couple of games where Fulton saw ice time, that kid really earned his spot, just like what Coach was saying of the BRO last year. I would not be surprised to see him have regular ice time.

If Tinordi played, it'd probably be for the playoffs. I'm not sure where you'd put him, maybe a trade-off with Burg along with Neal and McGowan, since I believe Burg moved up to line 3 after Tinordi's injury.

We've always had depth on this team. It's just finally being tested.
 
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Is Tinordi healthy? And who do we take out if he is? Fulton has a scoring streak on the line and is playing inspired hockey. The depth on this team hs come out of nowhere.
Just a big confidence booster.

Obviously we dont know. But if he is healthy-I would certainly reunite him with McGowan and Neal. I think the first 2 lines would be set. The thirsd and fourth lines could be tweaked with any of the boys-they are all playing well. i would however, like to see one more healthy defenseman for the final push-this is not going to get any easier and an extra D-man is important insurance for the weekend, the playoffs, and perhaps going further.
 
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Obviously we dont know. But if he is healthy-I would certainly reunite him with McGowan and Neal. I think the first 2 lines would be set. The thirsd and fourth lines could be tweaked with any of the boys-they are all playing well. i would however, like to see one more healthy defenseman for the final push-this is not going to get any easier and an extra D-man is important insurance for the weekend, the playoffs, and perhaps going further.
Of course, we can always bring up Sanford. ;)
 
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If we can put together a line that can neutralize the Flanagan line-and that is really saying something-we can do well against SLU. I am not sure anyone has truly stoped them this year. But a healthy Tinordi/McGowan/Neal line would be a very good match for them. Their ability to forecheck can do a lot of what is necessary to prevent their potent offense. Both teams have improved greatly from the beginning of the year. I still think we can match up well with them-but as we have been doing the past 2 months-we can only focus on th first game and get the best result we can before thinking about saturday.
Whatever lines Seth matched up with the Flanagan line in Canton worked pretty well - there were no 5 on 5 goals scored by SLU. The problem was the PK. With a week to work on the pk and the last line change hopefully we can shut down even strength again and the power play.
 
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Tinordi is out for the season with his ACL. Never fun to get that sort of injury this late, but at least he will have next season, although he might miss the first few games of that as well.
 
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That is not good news for Tinordi, ot the team. He provided a lot of grit and energy which we could have used in the playoffs.
We are quickly running out of depth. We really can't afford any more injuries.
 
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Whatever lines Seth matched up with the Flanagan line in Canton worked pretty well - there were no 5 on 5 goals scored by SLU. The problem was the PK. With a week to work on the pk and the last line change hopefully we can shut down even strength again and the power play.

That has to be the emphasis-whatever happens-we just cannot allow that line to beat us. I am sure SA has this as a priority. We did keep them off the scoreboard 5 on 5 as you mentioned-but the were lethal on the PP.
 
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This week's Engineer Bracketology is out. Other than being in the tournament field (barring league tournament upsets, never a good place to be), not a great deal of good news.
 
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This week's Engineer Bracketology is out. Other than being in the tournament field (barring league tournament upsets, never a good place to be), not a great deal of good news.

Thanks for the exhaustive analysis. Makes my head hurt-but 60mg of codeine took care of that. Incredible how single results occurring in leagues far far away can have such a dramatic effect. Without doubt the ideal way is to win 6 in a row right now. I just hate to think about all the little missed opportunites from earlier in the season when we gave up something late or missed an open net. Cudos for the work-makes so even an old codger like me can begin to uderstand.
 
Re: RPI Hockey 2012-2013 Part IV: Not A Finished Product Yet

This week's Engineer Bracketology is out. Other than being in the tournament field (barring league tournament upsets, never a good place to be), not a great deal of good news.
This seems like a glass half full outlook. I like where we are. Dartmouth and Yale can both be flipped based on ECAC playoffs. And prior to that, Yale needs to get by Cornell while DC needs to beat Q. If we continue to play like we have then I think things will shake out in our favor. I also think Niagara is an interesting team to think about. They've not played 10 TUC games so there is no comparison. However, two wins by Air Force at home this weekend puts them close (8 games). If that were to happen, we get our TUC above 500, and then Niagara beats a TUC in the AH semis (a distinct possibility), then we could flip that comparison on the day that Niagara either wins (or loses) Atlantic hockey. Crazy possibilities .....
 
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This seems like a glass half full outlook. I like where we are. Dartmouth and Yale can both be flipped based on ECAC playoffs. And prior to that, Yale needs to get by Cornell while DC needs to beat Q. If we continue to play like we have then I think things will shake out in our favor. I also think Niagara is an interesting team to think about. They've not played 10 TUC games so there is no comparison. However, two wins by Air Force at home this weekend puts them close (8 games). If that were to happen, we get our TUC above 500, and then Niagara beats a TUC in the AH semis (a distinct possibility), then we could flip that comparison on the day that Niagara either wins (or loses) Atlantic hockey. Crazy possibilities .....

:eek: My head hurts like DrD, and I can't prescribe medicines. ;)

I agree that if we keep winning, say split this weekend, get a bye, win two in the semis, and split in AC, we will make it -- unless there is a run of upsets in the other tourneys. It's good to have teams to root for in other games, but there are so many that I would expect them to average out. (Is that correct?) The upsets in other tourneys can be a problem, and I wouldn't be surprised if there will be two of them. (It would be nice if we were one. ;) ) Of course an upset in a tourney could knock someone else out, e.g., if Cornell has righted it's ship and goes on a run, they could knock Yale or DC out instead of us.


Edit: Thanks realet for the analysis, it was appreciated.
 
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:eek: My head hurts like DrD, and I can't prescribe medicines. ;)

I agree that if we keep winning, say split this weekend, get a bye, win two in the semis, and split in AC, we will make it -- unless there is a run of upsets in the other tourneys. It's good to have teams to root for in other games, but there are so many that I would expect them to average out. (Is that correct?) The upsets in other tourneys can be a problem, and I wouldn't be surprised if there will be two of them. (It would be nice if we were one. ;) ) Of course an upset in a tourney could knock someone else out, e.g., if Cornell has righted it's ship and goes on a run, they could knock Yale or DC out instead of us.
You are referring to upsets by teams not ranked in the 16 PWR. With the exception of AH, just about any team in the top 25 of the PWR that goes on a run and wins their conf will likely make it to the top 16. So we need to look at teams that are outside that window or in AH. It's a definite possibility in AH so it would be great to get above Niagara (go AFA!) just in case. In the ECAC, Cornell does seem like the concern but we can't really think about that too much until the seedings are all set. Although I think we would beat them, I would love to see us in a position where it is not possible for us to face them in the 2nd round (assuming we get a bye). 2nd and 6th seedings would do nicely.
 
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This seems like a glass half full outlook. I like where we are. Dartmouth and Yale can both be flipped based on ECAC playoffs. And prior to that, Yale needs to get by Cornell while DC needs to beat Q. If we continue to play like we have then I think things will shake out in our favor.

That's about all we can hope for right now, though.

I also think Niagara is an interesting team to think about. They've not played 10 TUC games so there is no comparison. However, two wins by Air Force at home this weekend puts them close (8 games). If that were to happen, we get our TUC above 500, and then Niagara beats a TUC in the AH semis (a distinct possibility), then we could flip that comparison on the day that Niagara either wins (or loses) Atlantic hockey. Crazy possibilities .....

The problem is, not only have they not played 10 TUC games, they've only played five, which is an excessively low number this far into the season. Further, the only non-AHA TUC they've played is Colgate (a game they lost 10-2), and Colgate only barely a TUC themselves.

Air Force and UConn are right there on the outside, but the issue with that is that Niagara swept UConn and already has a win against Air Force - and continuing to beat Air Force over the next two games would hurt the Falcons' chances of becoming a TUC.

So, if UConn and Air Force became TUCs, AND Colgate and Holy Cross stayed TUCs, you'd get to 10 games. It's not a high likelihood. Also, Niagara is probably going to get one, maybe two games against TUCs in the AHA tournament. In some ways, it's better for us if Niagara just plain loses, since that will drop their RPI faster than winning would increase it (given the league they play in). They just have so many wins that if they did manage to get up to 10 TUC games, it would probably only hurt a lot of teams.
 
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