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RPI Hockey 2012-2013 Part II: You Better Starting Posting the Engineer Way

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Beman said:
As Seth has said ad nauseam he is not pleased with his goaltending. Yes Kasdorf was a good choice and Seth did the right thing getting him. The three headed goalie will end soon if it already hasn't. Many teams are successful platooning two goalies. I like backing one goalie. Kasdorf??? It may be too early to throw him in every night. I hope by the middle of January we see a one goalie system and Kasdorf is as good the pro scouts think.
It is important to have a good "backup" goalie. Be it NHL, college level most coaches choose a number one goalie. Buy the ticket take the ride.
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You're speaking out of both sides of your mouth. In one instance you tell Seth to pick a goalie: "...most coaches choose a number one goalie." And on the other you say " I hope by the middle of January we see a one goalie system..." So which is it? Do want him to pick now or later ?
 
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Back up.

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Cornell doesn't do it because Iles is practically a superstar (WJC rep),
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What?

as was Scrivens before him (you don't play in the NHL if you aren't one),
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So the NHL is comprised of all superstars, including the guys who get called up for emergency injury starts?
 
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Wicked Slappaahs said:
You're speaking out of both sides of your mouth. In one instance you tell Seth to pick a goalie: "...most coaches choose a number one goalie." And on the other you say " I hope by the middle of January we see a one goalie system..." So which is it? Do want him to pick now or later ?
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He should pick a goalie when he figures out which one. Obviously he is having difficulty. Give it a month then choose for the rest of the season. That's all.
 
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Red Cloud said:
Back up.

What?

So the NHL is comprised of all superstars, including the guys who get called up for emergency injury starts?
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Superstar relative to college. Quite frankly, if you make it to the highest level play, you must be a good hockey player. We may not agree with the branding that some players possess (and in some cases, extracurricular activities if you know what I mean), but to even be considered for an emergency start in the NHL, you must have done something right.

As for Iles, there may be some bias since he was first choice on my fantasy team,but if you're on the best-of-the-world stage for U20, though, you must have done something right.
 
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Beman said:
He should pick a goalie when he figures out which one. Obviously he is having difficulty. Give it a month then choose for the rest of the season. That's all.
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He has informed all of the keepers that he is waiting for one of them to step up and grab the reigns. Until that happens, no one should be surprised or anxious that there is a rotation. I think Seth is wisely treading cautiously in the early going with Kazzy knowing that the transition for keepers is a bit tougher....much the same as he did with York...again, not surprising.
 
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Wicked Slappaahs said:
He has informed all of the keepers that he is waiting for one of them to step up and grab the reigns. Until that happens, no one should be surprised or anxious that there is a rotation. I think Seth is wisely treading cautiously in the early going with Kazzy knowing that the transition for keepers is a bit tougher....much the same as he did with York...again, not surprising.
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Definite agreement with this sentiment. As much as many lamented that York should have started right away, there's no guarantee he would have done well. After all from his freshman year, our win against Robert Morris was not that convincing (although it was a win), I seem to remember a 7-1 blowout on national TV (although Miami was strong at the time), and there were a couple other tough games (Colgate, Hicks Screwjob I, I think he may have played a tourney game), but by the time we got to the end of the season (playoffs in York's case, and we can echo the same in Diebold for the Colgate game since he had the same growing pains despite a shutout at RIT), he was in the zone.
 
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Wicked Slappaahs said:
It wasn't Seth's intention to have 3 goalies. Life isn't played out in cliches on paper....$$$$ happens. York jumped early forcing Seth to bring Diebold. Kasdorf was drafted and if Seth were to have deferred him, there was a strong possibility that he'd have lost him to major juniors. Credit Seth for recruiting great keepers.

As I have said ad nauseum, this team may have areas of concern, but goaltending is the least of them.
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Where are these great keepers hiding? Merriam and Diebold have the two worst save percentages in the league for qualifying goaltenders. Thats not great. This team has many concerns, and goaltending is a primary one, Appert has said so himself. Having 3 okay goalies is a recipe for failure, it's not a position where three deep mediocre depth is of any benefit at all. Merriam and Diebold have both had plenty of opportunities to take the reigns and have not. Kasdorf should be given at least every other start until he proves that he can or can not handle the job.
 
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hrbrendan said:
Where are these great keepers hiding? Merriam and Diebold have the two worst save percentages in the league for qualifying goaltenders. Thats not great. This team has many concerns, and goaltending is a primary one, Appert has said so himself. Having 3 okay goalies is a recipe for failure, it's not a position where three deep mediocre depth is of any benefit at all. Merriam and Diebold have both had plenty of opportunities to take the reigns and have not. Kasdorf should be given at least every other start until he proves that he can or can not handle the job.
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I don't view it as mediocre depth. We have two very young and very talented keepers and one solid keeper. If you want to start throwing league stats around after a whopping 4 games, be my guest. But how about siting the number of odd man rushes and back door gimmes the defense is allowing...?? How many GA have been after 2 or 3 saves when we fail to clear the puck or the men in front? How about penalty minutes? Funny how you left those out...aren't we something like top 5 nationally in PIM ?? This is a team sport, last I checked. You want our GA and save % to improve? Maybe the starting place should be staying out of the G.D. box.
 
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Wicked Slappaahs said:
I don't view it as mediocre depth. We have two very young and very talented keepers and one solid keeper. If you want to start throwing league stats around after a whopping 4 games, be my guest. But how about siting the number of odd man rushes and back door gimmes the defense is allowing...?? How many GA have been after 2 or 3 saves when we fail to clear the puck or the men in front? How about penalty minutes? Funny how you left those out...aren't we something like top 5 nationally in PIM ?? This is a team sport, last I checked. You want our GA and save % to improve? Maybe the starting place should be staying out of the G.D. box.
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hrbrendan is probably one of those that imitates Cornell during goals. It's not all his fault unless it TRULY IS all his fault.
 
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Wicked Slappaahs said:
I don't view it as mediocre depth. We have two very young and very talented keepers and one solid keeper. If you want to start throwing league stats around after a whopping 4 games, be my guest. But how about *citing the number of odd man rushes and back door gimmes the defense is allowing...?? How many GA have been after 2 or 3 saves when we fail to clear the puck or the men in front? How about penalty minutes? Funny how you left those out...aren't we something like top 5 nationally in PIM ?? This is a team sport, last I checked. You want our GA and save % to improve? Maybe the starting place should be staying out of the G.D. box.
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Unless someone knows where to find them for I don't have access to any stats on 2nd and 3rd rebounds going in. Lets throw out the ECAC stats and look at the season as a whole, its all we have to work with.

You bring up penalty minutes, we're 7th the nation (yay). Ahead of RPI on that list you will find:

Denver - Ranked 1st, .935 save %
Quinnipiac - Ranked 12th .927 save %
Niagara - Ranked 15th .970 save %

Being short handed is surely not helpful, but it also doesn't doom you to failure. It magnifies deficiencies in play in and around the net. I don't have SOG stats for PP/PK, but you discount the 8 shorthanded goals Merriam and Diebold have allowed entirely, it still only gets you up to a somewhat serviceable .912 combined. That is the definition of mediocre goaltending at the NCAA level, and discounting 25% of the goals allowed certainly is enough to account for whatever missed clearing attempts by the D or easy back door goals due to defensive breakdowns, as the goalies you are comparing them to face PK situations as well.

They may all be mediocre, but until Kasdorf proves in game situations that he is as well, he should be getting the majority of the starts or at least splitting time with Diebold.
 
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hrbrendan said:
Where are these great keepers hiding? Merriam and Diebold have the two worst save percentages in the league for qualifying goaltenders. Thats not great. This team has many concerns, and goaltending is a primary one, Appert has said so himself. Having 3 okay goalies is a recipe for failure, it's not a position where three deep mediocre depth is of any benefit at all. Merriam and Diebold have both had plenty of opportunities to take the reigns and have not. Kasdorf should be given at least every other start until he proves that he can or can not handle the job.
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My thoughts exactly. Its a tough decision taking one of these players out of the rotation but stats don't lie.

"The truth isn't mean it's truth" Andrew Breitbart
 
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The goalie situation this season has been evolving more or less as I figured it would so far. Merriam and Diebold would play most of the minutes to begin, and eventually Kasdorf would be given his chance. If he continues to play as he did vs. MU, he will step in as York did. I am also disappointed in the team's GAA so far this year, but it isn't entirely unexpected.
 
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Ralph Baer said:
The goalie situation this season has been evolving more or less as I figured it would so far. Merriam and Diebold would play most of the minutes to begin, and eventually Kasdorf would be given his chance. If he continues to play as he did vs. MU, he will step in as York did. I am also disappointed in the team's GAA so far this year, but it isn't entirely unexpected.
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I would think all would agree that a goalie's GAA is sometimes his own fault-but often more a representation of how the entire team on the ice has been playing defensively. I think it a tad early to compare stats just yet. A GAA of over 3.0 at this level is just not consistant with winning games but the number of clear breakaways and odd man rushes given up is just as intolerable. If there is one aspect of the game at which coach Appert is a far greater expert than we are-it has to be goaltending. I am sure he will work this out and sooner rather than later. We may see his tolerance however get rather limited and make early changes in any games where he thinks that it is the goalie and not the defense that has let the team down. As i see it, this is not the only weakenss we have to work on at this stage. No way did i ever expect this team to be 0-4 in ECAC play.
 
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DrDemento said:
I would think all would agree that a goalie's GAA is sometimes his own fault-but often more a representation of how the entire team on the ice has been playing defensively. I think it a tad early to compare stats just yet. A GAA of over 3.0 at this level is just not consistant with winning games but the number of clear breakaways and odd man rushes given up is just as intolerable. If there is one aspect of the game at which coach Appert is a far greater expert than we are-it has to be goaltending. I am sure he will work this out and sooner rather than later. We may see his tolerance however get rather limited and make early changes in any games where he thinks that it is the goalie and not the defense that has let the team down. As i see it, this is not the only weakenss we have to work on at this stage. No way did i ever expect this team to be 0-4 in ECAC play.
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The team's defense has indeed been inconsistent. Curadi seems improved over last season, while Leonard seems to be having a bit of a sophomore slump after a great freshman year. Bailen's offensive endeavors, while needed, often cause defensive lapses. Etc., etc.
 
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Happy Thanksgiving to all, I'm thankful for being able to watch a tradition rich program each and every year. Also, I am thankful for the people I have met along the way and to me thats what makes college hockey so great.
 
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