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RPI Hockey 2012-2013 Part II: You Better Starting Posting the Engineer Way

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Ralph Baer said:
I was looking at the various conference standings. Besides for SHU, all of RPI's non-conference opponents currently have at least a .500 overall record and a winning conference record. If we ever get to be a TUC, our SoS should be quite good.
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We have the 18th most difficult schedule in the nation according to KRACH, which is far beyond anything we've had in years, but that is in part due to the strength of the conference in general. All of our non-conference opponents this season with the exception of Mercyhurst and Sacred Heart are currently nationally ranked. All of our opponents this season to date except for Princeton, Brown, and the aforementioned Lakers are ranked.

Meanwhile, according to WaP this week, Union's most difficult non-conference opponent on the season according to KRACH is... RPI in January.
 
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Ralph Baer said:
Great article. I want to add a couple of things that weren't mentioned.

The 7-0 victory over BU was accomplished with Barry Sherwood, a center, playing goal for RPI. Due to academic problems, RPI had only one goalie on the roster, Tom Nichol. Nichol had been suspended (by Kearns I think) for punching in the handshake line a Middlebury player who had taken liberties in the crease. I don't think that I have ever seen an RPI team play better defense for 60 minutes.

There was the feeling on the RPI campus that RPI deserved the number 4 seed and thus the home field advantage over BU in the playoffs. However, RPI had a signifantly inferior team to the one that had beaten BU earlier. Academics had taken its toll on Barry Law and Barry Sherwood. I think that we also were without some players due to injury, but the roster in the program doesn't show it. BU still played home games at the Boston Arena (now only used by NU). There is an interesting article in the program about BU's Walter Brown Arena, then under construction. They don't build them to last there. :p BTW, that was the only away game that I attended while at RPI. (I attended two neutral-site games at MSG.)
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Hello Ralph:
-A great (as usual) article by Tom. That and your comments bring back memories of watching hockey my soph year at RPI.
-But help me out....my biggest memory of the 4-3 overtime win vs. Cornell was in the third period when a Cornell player used the butt end of his stick to break Dale Watson's jaw...teeth lost and blood all over the ice. Dale left the game and I seem to remember no penalty called! Dale Watson played the rest of the season with a full face mask...unusual at that time. AM I CONFUSED HERE??
-Boy, the field house was loud that night. I remember later that evening spending time with several of my Chi Phi brothers at a small North Troy bar that we hung out at (named "Shifties" I believe) with Hearns, Barry Sherwood, Colin Ingham, Ron Moreau (RIP) and some other plauers, reliving the great game.
-You are right; in that 7-0 win over BU the whole team sacrificed themselves to make sure not too many shots got thru to Sherwood!
-I returned to the area in the early 80's and have enjoyed my season tickets to this day.
Best, Jim
 
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MightyEl said:
Hello Ralph:
-A great (as usual) article by Tom. That and your comments bring back memories of watching hockey my soph year at RPI.
-But help me out....my biggest memory of the 4-3 overtime win vs. Cornell was in the third period when a Cornell player used the butt end of his stick to break Dale Watson's jaw...teeth lost and blood all over the ice. Dale left the game and I seem to remember no penalty called! Dale Watson played the rest of the season with a full face mask...unusual at that time. AM I CONFUSED HERE??
-Boy, the field house was loud that night. I remember later that evening spending time with several of my Chi Phi brothers at a small North Troy bar that we hung out at (named "Shifties" I believe) with Hearns, Barry Sherwood, Colin Ingham, Ron Moreau (RIP) and some other plauers, reliving the great game.
-You are right; in that 7-0 win over BU the whole team sacrificed themselves to make sure not too many shots got thru to Sherwood!
-I returned to the area in the early 80's and have enjoyed my season tickets to this day.
Best, Jim
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it has been a long time. I remember Colin Ingham playing with a mask of some type at one point.
 
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Red Cloud said:
We have the 18th most difficult schedule in the nation according to KRACH, which is far beyond anything we've had in years, but that is in part due to the strength of the conference in general. All of our non-conference opponents this season with the exception of Mercyhurst and Sacred Heart are currently nationally ranked. All of our opponents this season to date except for Princeton, Brown, and the aforementioned Lakers are ranked.

Meanwhile, according to WaP this week, Union's most difficult non-conference opponent on the season according to KRACH is... RPI in January.
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Most certainly the entire ECAC's performance helps our SoS, and it currently doesn't include OOC games against BU, UNH, and SCSU (2x). I did chuckle when I read in WaP about Union's most difficult OOC game.
 
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Stay@homeDad said:
I actually enjoy the shoot outs. Like the one last night between Miami (Ohio) and Ohio St. The 3rd guy from OS did not even give himself a chance after he made his first move. I could have made the save myself with the little amount of room he had left.
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I didn't say that I don't enjoy shootouts, but that doesn't mean that I believe they should be in the game.
 
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Ralph Baer said:
I didn't say that I don't enjoy shootouts, but that doesn't mean that I believe they should be in the game.
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Fun to watch? Yes. Being the deciding issue in a team game? Not really. Being used to decide a team championship game or Stanley Cup? Never ever!!
 
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MightyEl said:
Hello Ralph:
-A great (as usual) article by Tom. That and your comments bring back memories of watching hockey my soph year at RPI.
-But help me out....my biggest memory of the 4-3 overtime win vs. Cornell was in the third period when a Cornell player used the butt end of his stick to break Dale Watson's jaw...teeth lost and blood all over the ice. Dale left the game and I seem to remember no penalty called! Dale Watson played the rest of the season with a full face mask...unusual at that time. AM I CONFUSED HERE??
-Boy, the field house was loud that night. I remember later that evening spending time with several of my Chi Phi brothers at a small North Troy bar that we hung out at (named "Shifties" I believe) with Hearns, Barry Sherwood, Colin Ingham, Ron Moreau (RIP) and some other plauers, reliving the great game.
-You are right; in that 7-0 win over BU the whole team sacrificed themselves to make sure not too many shots got thru to Sherwood!
-I returned to the area in the early 80's and have enjoyed my season tickets to this day.
Best, Jim
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Love the comments about old time RPI hockey. But Shifties? I thought I had hit every bar in Troy and just do not recall that name. Maybe just one i missed over the years.:confused:
 
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DrDemento said:
Love the comments about old time RPI hockey. But Shifties? I thought I had hit every bar in Troy and just do not recall that name. Maybe just one i missed over the years.:confused:
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Doc:
-It may have been "Lefties".
-Just a little hole-in-the-wall local bar up North towards Lansingburg with an amiable owner/bartender. One pool table in the rear where we had fun learning how to not get scammed/scammed by the locals!
Best, Jim
 
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MightyEl said:
Doc:
-It may have been "Lefties".
-Just a little hole-in-the-wall local bar up North towards Lansingburg with an amiable owner/bartender. One pool table in the rear where we had fun learning how to not get scammed/scammed by the locals!
Best, Jim
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Hmm, I do not remember this either. My grandfather would have known of it, he had his pulse on the town. He used to be the mayor of the city of Troy and I do not recall him ever talking about it I will ask my mother (his daughter) if she remembers or if my father does. This has me curious now.
 
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MightyEl said:
Doc:
-It may have been "Lefties".
-Just a little hole-in-the-wall local bar up North towards Lansingburg with an amiable owner/bartender. One pool table in the rear where we had fun learning how to not get scammed/scammed by the locals!
Best, Jim
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I'd love to know for sure. I hit many of the spots back in the 60's but really started to tour the spots with Jen starting around 1975. I can think of a long list of places-some really nice, and some dives that we were afraid to go into. That North Troy/Lansingburg area had quite a few of them.

edit-was it any place near the Old Daly Inn??
 
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MightyEl said:
-But help me out....my biggest memory of the 4-3 overtime win vs. Cornell was in the third period when a Cornell player used the butt end of his stick to break Dale Watson's jaw...teeth lost and blood all over the ice. Dale left the game and I seem to remember no penalty called! Dale Watson played the rest of the season with a full face mask...unusual at that time. AM I CONFUSED HERE??
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I'm pretty sure you're right that Watson was injured in that game, though I don't remember whether a penalty was called or not.

He certainly didn't wear a full face mask with birdcage wiring such as college players wear today, but he did have a plastic guard around his jaw to provide him with some protection. The plastic guard was white. Since it was customary in those days for the home team to wear their colored sweaters, it was virtually impossible to watch Dale play in his red sweater, red helmet, and white jaw guard without thinking of Santa Claus. :)
 
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DrDemento said:
I'd love to know for sure. I hit many of the spots back in the 60's but really started to tour the spots with Jen starting around 1975. I can think of a long list of places-some really nice, and some dives that we were afraid to go into. That North Troy/Lansingburg area had quite a few of them.

edit-was it any place near the Old Daly Inn??
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I grew up in that neck of the woods, I don't recall anything resembling the name "Shifties" or "Lefties"
 
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Waite21 said:
I'm pretty sure you're right that Watson was injured in that game, though I don't remember whether a penalty was called or not.

He certainly didn't wear a full face mask with birdcage wiring such as college players wear today, but he did have a plastic guard around his jaw to provide him with some protection. The plastic guard was white. Since it was customary in those days for the home team to wear their colored sweaters, it was virtually impossible to watch Dale play in his red sweater, red helmet, and white jaw guard without thinking of Santa Claus. :)
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Maybe we can figure it out. Here are the scoring and penalties according to my scorecard. if there were changes in scoring after the game, I probably didn't modify my card.

1 7:14 Cornell Duthie (Lowe)
1 18:23 RPI Bean (Law, Mitchell)
2 14:26 Cornell McCutcheon (Pettit, Lowe)
2 19:11 RPI Law (Scammell)
3 7:59 Cornell Ryan (Cornell, Tufford)
3 10:29 RPI Law (Scammell, McKersie)
OT 6:09 RPI Hearns (Sherwood, Stabler)

1 11:43 RPI Ingham (Cross Checking)
1 17:43 Cornell Fullan (Tripping)
2 10:13 RPI Sherwood (interference)
2 10:56 Cornell Cornell (Cross Checking)
3 14:22 Cornell Coviello (Holding)
3 14:22 Cornell Coviello (Elbowing)
OT 0:37 RPI Bean (Interference)

Saves
RPI Nichol 13-13-9-5=40
Cornell Dryden 14-5-6-4=29
 
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Ralph Baer said:
The Record doesn't have an article up about the game yesterday vs. Bye. Any reports? ;)
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Bye game mercifully came to an end when Nick Bailen, the last player standing, slumped to the ice after 22 periods. Leaving the arena with no players left to continue playing.
Exhaustion wins. :eek::D
 
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Just got home from the game vs. Bye. Kasdorf stopped close to 200 shots while the Bye keeper Wall stopped 12....yes we were outshot by the Bye team. Good news is we finally broke the dreaded tan suit curse by managing a tie vs. Bye.
 
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Ralph Baer said:
Maybe we can figure it out. Here are the scoring and penalties according to my scorecard. if there were changes in scoring after the game, I probably didn't modify my card.

1 7:14 Cornell Duthie (Lowe)
1 18:23 RPI Bean (Law, Mitchell)
2 14:26 Cornell McCutcheon (Pettit, Lowe)
2 19:11 RPI Law (Scammell)
3 7:59 Cornell Ryan (Cornell, Tufford)
3 10:29 RPI Law (Scammell, McKersie)
OT 6:09 RPI Hearns (Sherwood, Stabler)

1 11:43 RPI Ingham (Cross Checking)
1 17:43 Cornell Fullan (Tripping)
2 10:13 RPI Sherwood (interference)
2 10:56 Cornell Cornell (Cross Checking)
3 14:22 Cornell Coviello (Holding)
3 14:22 Cornell Coviello (Elbowing)
OT 0:37 RPI Bean (Interference)

Saves
RPI Nichol 13-13-9-5=40
Cornell Dryden 14-5-6-4=29
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Great record keeping RB-appreciated. I think Kurt has a picture of the final goal being scored in his wonderful book. If anyone cares to try you can look really closely into the stands behind where Hearns took the shot and see one fanatical DrD almost pass out in shock. I do not think I have ever heard a noise level comparable to what erupted right then. No one wanted to leave the old HFH. Just an incredible moment.

This and the 3-3 tie with Clarkson in December 1970 are my most memorable RPI home games ever.
 
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I don't think that this ECAC interview with Jason Kasdorf has been posted here yet:

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