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RPI 2019-2020: Life after Lovisa
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Ralph Baer
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Re: RPI 2019-2020: Life after Lovisa
A short article which says 2022 rather than 2021. I will change it.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We have added another accomplishment to our ever-growing list as we are pleased to announce that <a href="https://twitter.com/JahnkeMika?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@JahnkeMika</a> has committed to play NCAA Division I hockey for Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute in 2022. <a href="https://twitter.com/RPI_WHockey?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RPI_WHockey</a> <a href="https://t.co/m63rKM895f">https://t.co/m63rKM895f</a></p>— Stars Elite Girls Hockey (@StarsEliteGirls) <a href="https://twitter.com/StarsEliteGirls/status/1239312833235628034?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 15, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
A short article which says 2022 rather than 2021. I will change it.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We have added another accomplishment to our ever-growing list as we are pleased to announce that <a href="https://twitter.com/JahnkeMika?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@JahnkeMika</a> has committed to play NCAA Division I hockey for Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute in 2022. <a href="https://twitter.com/RPI_WHockey?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RPI_WHockey</a> <a href="https://t.co/m63rKM895f">https://t.co/m63rKM895f</a></p>— Stars Elite Girls Hockey (@StarsEliteGirls) <a href="https://twitter.com/StarsEliteGirls/status/1239312833235628034?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 15, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Ralph Baer
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Re: RPI 2019-2020: Life after Lovisa
back to 2021
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We have added another accomplishment to our ever-growing list as we are pleased to announce that <a href="https://twitter.com/JahnkeMika?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@JahnkeMika</a> has committed to play NCAA Division I hockey for Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute in 2021. <a href="https://twitter.com/RPI_WHockey?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RPI_WHockey</a> <a href="https://t.co/m63rKM895f">https://t.co/m63rKM895f</a></p>— Stars Elite Girls Hockey (@StarsEliteGirls) <a href="https://twitter.com/StarsEliteGirls/status/1239375449408577537?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 16, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
back to 2021
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We have added another accomplishment to our ever-growing list as we are pleased to announce that <a href="https://twitter.com/JahnkeMika?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@JahnkeMika</a> has committed to play NCAA Division I hockey for Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute in 2021. <a href="https://twitter.com/RPI_WHockey?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RPI_WHockey</a> <a href="https://t.co/m63rKM895f">https://t.co/m63rKM895f</a></p>— Stars Elite Girls Hockey (@StarsEliteGirls) <a href="https://twitter.com/StarsEliteGirls/status/1239375449408577537?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 16, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Ralph Baer
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Re: RPI 2019-2020: Life after Lovisa
from the directory
Riena Jahnke
Electrical Engineering
That leaves Asiah Taylor-Walters not in the directory among the expected recruits.
from the directory
Riena Jahnke
Electrical Engineering
That leaves Asiah Taylor-Walters not in the directory among the expected recruits.
Ralph Baer
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Re: RPI 2019-2020: Life after Lovisa
Neutral Zone has raised 2021 recruit Sophie Helgeson from 4.00 to 4.25. I think that Todd Burgess is the only other RPI recruit for either the men or women whom they have rated that highly. The ratings should be taken with some salt. E.g., Owen Savory was rated 3.00.
Edit: I am sure that I looked when I wrote this, and now OS is 3.50.
Neutral Zone has raised 2021 recruit Sophie Helgeson from 4.00 to 4.25. I think that Todd Burgess is the only other RPI recruit for either the men or women whom they have rated that highly. The ratings should be taken with some salt. E.g., Owen Savory was rated 3.00.
Edit: I am sure that I looked when I wrote this, and now OS is 3.50.
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Ralph Baer
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https://www.neutralzone.net/womens/ncaa-khloe-lund-commits-to-bemidji-state-rpi-adds-two/
RPI also picked up a pair of commitments. Mika Jahnke, a forward from the Dallas Stars Elite, will join the program as will goaltender Ashlyn Lewis, a Colorado native from the NAHA White.
“Jahnke handles the puck well in all situations; as a smaller player, she is smart with her body positioning, effectively using her size and speed to evade checks and break into open space,” said NZ scouts. “She is competitive and tenacious, regularly getting behind defenders.”
“Lewis has good depth management and moves well post-to-post,” out scouts said in January at the USA Canada Cup. “Good rebound control. She had a big game against Stoney Creek, stopping a significant number of shots to help her team earn the tie.”
https://www.neutralzone.net/womens/ncaa-khloe-lund-commits-to-bemidji-state-rpi-adds-two/
RPI also picked up a pair of commitments. Mika Jahnke, a forward from the Dallas Stars Elite, will join the program as will goaltender Ashlyn Lewis, a Colorado native from the NAHA White.
“Jahnke handles the puck well in all situations; as a smaller player, she is smart with her body positioning, effectively using her size and speed to evade checks and break into open space,” said NZ scouts. “She is competitive and tenacious, regularly getting behind defenders.”
“Lewis has good depth management and moves well post-to-post,” out scouts said in January at the USA Canada Cup. “Good rebound control. She had a big game against Stoney Creek, stopping a significant number of shots to help her team earn the tie.”
DavidNardolillo
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Re: RPI 2019-2020: Life after Lovisa
Jahnke was identified as a Yale commit last year. Edit: missed where Ralph already mentioned this earlier. Apologies.
Jahnke was identified as a Yale commit last year. Edit: missed where Ralph already mentioned this earlier. Apologies.
DavidNardolillo
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Re: RPI 2019-2020: Life after Lovisa
Certain Ivy programs have always been competitive. Female athletes are better students on average than their male counterparts, so Ivy schools are an attractive option to begin with for the player pool. Those that invest in their programs are going to get some return and be able to compete with the Big 10 schools that are closest to the hockey hubs and that have Big 10-type facilities--I am sure that most know Minnesota's women have their own beautiful 3500 seat rink next to Mariucci Arena, Ridder Arena, that's probably as nice or nicer than the best ECAC rink.
Certain Ivy programs have always been competitive. Female athletes are better students on average than their male counterparts, so Ivy schools are an attractive option to begin with for the player pool. Those that invest in their programs are going to get some return and be able to compete with the Big 10 schools that are closest to the hockey hubs and that have Big 10-type facilities--I am sure that most know Minnesota's women have their own beautiful 3500 seat rink next to Mariucci Arena, Ridder Arena, that's probably as nice or nicer than the best ECAC rink.
DavidNardolillo
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Re: RPI 2019-2020: Life after Lovisa
I feel very badly for these women. I think most of us know the feeling at least one time in our athletic careers of being totally overmatched against our peers, whether in low-level organized sports or as a college athlete; it can be totally dispiriting. I can't say whether they quit on the coach or not, but I know that the levee can break even when you are not trying to quit.
I feel very badly for these women. I think most of us know the feeling at least one time in our athletic careers of being totally overmatched against our peers, whether in low-level organized sports or as a college athlete; it can be totally dispiriting. I can't say whether they quit on the coach or not, but I know that the levee can break even when you are not trying to quit.
DavidNardolillo
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DavidNardolillo
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Re: RPI 2019-2020: Life after Lovisa
I can understand why fans would not want to donate, but if you are on the fence I would consider still supporting the women on the team. The athletic director has apparently made a decision--which he will need to own--holding back because of the coach will not produce a positive benefit, let alone a coaching change, at this point.
In my opinion, there is something larger in play that affects both the men's and women's hockey teams: I don't think the types of resource investments needed for the programs to be consistently competitive on the national scene are high on the list of priorities for RPI leadership. Reasonable people can disagree on whether enhanced athletic investments make sense for colleges in this fiscal climate (skyrocketing tuition, dwindling enrollments, investment risks to endowment), but I think this is part of the reality for RPI in the near term.
I can understand why fans would not want to donate, but if you are on the fence I would consider still supporting the women on the team. The athletic director has apparently made a decision--which he will need to own--holding back because of the coach will not produce a positive benefit, let alone a coaching change, at this point.
In my opinion, there is something larger in play that affects both the men's and women's hockey teams: I don't think the types of resource investments needed for the programs to be consistently competitive on the national scene are high on the list of priorities for RPI leadership. Reasonable people can disagree on whether enhanced athletic investments make sense for colleges in this fiscal climate (skyrocketing tuition, dwindling enrollments, investment risks to endowment), but I think this is part of the reality for RPI in the near term.
Re: RPI 2019-2020: Life after Lovisa
Comments like these are baffling. Outside of Selander last year, can anyone name one player that was worthy of All Conference or even someone that was a difference maker in this program? You have two options here. You say Vines is a bad coach because he can't recruit (which you won't see for another year or two), or you say the players that he currently has just aren't up to snuff at the Division 1 level. I don't think it makes sense to say "Poor Susie, you play for a bad coach" when Susie, in fact, is just not very good. There are many issues with RPI and the first is that for years, they relied on a goalie to get them through games, didn't utilize this success to gather like-minded players, and with her gone, it exposed this lack of recruiting. For the players that are currently there and participated in a winless season, it must have been awful, however, don't say that you feel sorry for them. They are not completely blameless in that scenario and this way of enabling them and telling them they are good and it's their coach's fault that they can't score goals is a bit silly.
Comments like these are baffling. Outside of Selander last year, can anyone name one player that was worthy of All Conference or even someone that was a difference maker in this program? You have two options here. You say Vines is a bad coach because he can't recruit (which you won't see for another year or two), or you say the players that he currently has just aren't up to snuff at the Division 1 level. I don't think it makes sense to say "Poor Susie, you play for a bad coach" when Susie, in fact, is just not very good. There are many issues with RPI and the first is that for years, they relied on a goalie to get them through games, didn't utilize this success to gather like-minded players, and with her gone, it exposed this lack of recruiting. For the players that are currently there and participated in a winless season, it must have been awful, however, don't say that you feel sorry for them. They are not completely blameless in that scenario and this way of enabling them and telling them they are good and it's their coach's fault that they can't score goals is a bit silly.
DavidNardolillo
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Re: RPI 2019-2020: Life after Lovisa
You are attributing opinions to me that I did not express. I said nothing about the coach's ability and I used the term "overmatched" which I think is a diplomatic way of saying the players are not good, i.e. not at the same D-I talent level of their opponents. I was responding to a comment that wondered aloud whether the players had quit on their coach, and expressing some empathy for their efforts in that context is not the same as excusing the performance of anyone.
[EDIT: corrected some poor drafting. Apologies]
You are attributing opinions to me that I did not express. I said nothing about the coach's ability and I used the term "overmatched" which I think is a diplomatic way of saying the players are not good, i.e. not at the same D-I talent level of their opponents. I was responding to a comment that wondered aloud whether the players had quit on their coach, and expressing some empathy for their efforts in that context is not the same as excusing the performance of anyone.
[EDIT: corrected some poor drafting. Apologies]
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Ralph Baer
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Re: RPI 2019-2020: Life after Lovisa
I wonder why that article didn't mention her sister who committed at the same time.
I wonder why that article didn't mention her sister who committed at the same time.
DavidNardolillo
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Re: RPI 2019-2020: Life after Lovisa
Probably a thinly-staffed publication that must have just caught the one twitter announcement and didn't dig deeper. Did the sister play for the same amateur team?
Probably a thinly-staffed publication that must have just caught the one twitter announcement and didn't dig deeper. Did the sister play for the same amateur team?
What's really baffling is why one of the worst hockey programs in the country, of either gender, gets so much play on here. They have been awful for a long time and now they are the worst D1 team and second worst to D3 Finlandia who didn't register a single win or tie this season.
Lovisa's absence was not the problem. They couldn't score goals. Yes, he's a terrible coach, but he's a terrible coach coaching D3 level players and no coach can turn a teamful of D3 talent into a competitive D1 program. This program needs a new coach who will recruit heavily to replace this current roster as soon as it's possible. Oh wait, it's RPI, generally speaking top-end female hockey players aren't as interested in going to this type of a school, so this program is destined to always be a low-end program. End of story.
Lovisa's absence was not the problem. They couldn't score goals. Yes, he's a terrible coach, but he's a terrible coach coaching D3 level players and no coach can turn a teamful of D3 talent into a competitive D1 program. This program needs a new coach who will recruit heavily to replace this current roster as soon as it's possible. Oh wait, it's RPI, generally speaking top-end female hockey players aren't as interested in going to this type of a school, so this program is destined to always be a low-end program. End of story.
Ralph Baer
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Re: RPI 2019-2020: Life after Lovisa
Her sister was in Japan although they both played in Dallas in 18-19. They list the sister also as an RPI recruit on their website.
Her sister was in Japan although they both played in Dallas in 18-19. They list the sister also as an RPI recruit on their website.
Ralph Baer
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DavidNardolillo
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Re: RPI 2019-2020: Life after Lovisa
I would not underestimate women hockey players. I picked the #1 team, Cornell, and googled "Cornell women's hockey engineering majors" and the first search result revealed that that Cornell's starting goaltender is an engineering major (and in ROTC). https://blogs.cornell.edu/admission...-while-juggling-naval-rotc-and-womens-hockey/
I am sure RPI may lose some recruits due to the specialized nature of its academic offerings, but there are more and more students majoring in STEM fields (even in liberal arts colleges), the RPI profile offers a lot for those with that interest.
I would not underestimate women hockey players. I picked the #1 team, Cornell, and googled "Cornell women's hockey engineering majors" and the first search result revealed that that Cornell's starting goaltender is an engineering major (and in ROTC). https://blogs.cornell.edu/admission...-while-juggling-naval-rotc-and-womens-hockey/
I am sure RPI may lose some recruits due to the specialized nature of its academic offerings, but there are more and more students majoring in STEM fields (even in liberal arts colleges), the RPI profile offers a lot for those with that interest.
(Except for may be Location)