RPI 2018 Off-Season Part II: In Memory of WaP

[Ralph Baer]

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Today is 18 August 2018. There are 50 days until RPI's next game and still no roster.


This is based upon 7 October 2018 for the start of next season.

 

[25+years]

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Fully agree, though she does not have a DIRECT effect, the attitude she shows of indifference does matter, especially when a program is struggling. I must also add the AD is not doing anyone any favors with how he has been handling things as well.

By the way that so-called luxury box is a joke.

I think the answer to the SAJ is to revoke her HFH clearance. .

 

[FlagDUDE08]

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I think the answer to the SAJ is to revoke her HFH clearance. .

Well, her handling of the 'tute was probably changed from "grossly negligent" to "extremely careless"...

I will admit though, that was a good one.

 

[Ralph Baer]

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I think the answer to the SAJ is to revoke her HFH clearance. .

Perhaps they should make her walk on the catwalk to where WRPI used to broadcast. Even at her height (or my height) she wouldn't have clearance. I also wonder if the catwalk could support her weight.

 

[Waite21]

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With all the talk about no roster being posted, I wondered if perhaps they're waiting for classes to start before they announce a roster.

Just took a look at RPI's academic calendar. The first day of classes is August 30, which is a Thursday.

Is this the first time RPI ever started classes on anything other than a Monday, or have they been starting on a Thursday for years without my noticing?

Gee, today's students have it tough. After classes start on August 30, the students will endure a second day of classes on August 31, then break for a three-day weekend. No classes are scheduled for Labor Day.

 

[Ralph Baer]

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Today is 19 August 2018. There are 49 days (7 weeks) until RPI's next game and still no roster.


This is based upon 7 October 2018 for the start of next season.

 

[FlagDUDE08]

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With all the talk about no roster being posted, I wondered if perhaps they're waiting for classes to start before they announce a roster.

Just took a look at RPI's academic calendar. The first day of classes is August 30, which is a Thursday.

Is this the first time RPI ever started classes on anything other than a Monday, or have they been starting on a Thursday for years without my noticing?

Gee, today's students have it tough. After classes start on August 30, the students will endure a second day of classes on August 31, then break for a three-day weekend. No classes are scheduled for Labor Day.

When I was there, spring semester always started on a Tuesday. (owing to MLK Jr. Day, of course)

One of the things they do, though, is to ensure that an equal number of specific weekdays occur in a semester. This is why one of the Tuesdays has a "follow Monday schedule", because they can't easily give people a Tuesday off. What they end up doing, by virtue of this, is putting the reading days on a Thursday and Friday and then having a full finals week, rather than what they previously did in a fall semester when I was there, which was to have a weekend in the middle of finals week. This is shown by reading days start on the 13th, and then finals are the 17th-21st. There are 14 class days for each weekday in this upcoming semester.

For those wondering for optics, MLK Day was usually the Monday off, President's Day was the Tuesday (follow Monday schedule), spring break always a full week, Wednesday was GM Day, and then reading days for the Thursday and Friday. For Spring 2019, they're actually short a Wednesday, given they're also starting that on a Thursday, but the RF following the MT schedules that week, same three holidays with "follow schedule", and then finishing the classes on a Friday. It works out so there's only 13 Wednesdays, and 14 of the others.

 

[Ralph Baer]

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When I was there, spring semester always started on a Tuesday. (owing to MLK Jr. Day, of course)

One of the things they do, though, is to ensure that an equal number of specific weekdays occur in a semester. This is why one of the Tuesdays has a "follow Monday schedule", because they can't easily give people a Tuesday off. What they end up doing, by virtue of this, is putting the reading days on a Thursday and Friday and then having a full finals week, rather than what they previously did in a fall semester when I was there, which was to have a weekend in the middle of finals week. This is shown by reading days start on the 13th, and then finals are the 17th-21st. There are 14 class days for each weekday in this upcoming semester.

For those wondering for optics, MLK Day was usually the Monday off, President's Day was the Tuesday (follow Monday schedule), spring break always a full week, Wednesday was GM Day, and then reading days for the Thursday and Friday. For Spring 2019, they're actually short a Wednesday, given they're also starting that on a Thursday, but the RF following the MT schedules that week, same three holidays with "follow schedule", and then finishing the classes on a Friday. It works out so there's only 13 Wednesdays, and 14 of the others.

When I was at RPI, there were 15 weeks of classes each semester. (We were slower learners. ) I don't recall them ever having a Tuesday being used as a Monday or other such change. We got off Wednesday-Friday for Thanksgiving. My gut feeling is that school started the Wednesday after Labor Day to even things out, but I wouldn't swear to it. In order to get the 15 weeks in during the fall semester there were a couple of weeks of classes after we returned from the Holiday break. No one liked that at all. MLK day was not yet a Holiday.

I don't think that there were any problems in the Spring semester. It started on a Monday and ended on a Friday with a full week off around Easter.

A year or two before I left grad school in 1974, they introduced a three week or one month mini-semester where they gave short courses. Students were required to take a mini-course in, I think, two of their four years, but they abandoned this before anyone completed their four years under that system.

 

[FlagDUDE08]

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When I was at RPI, there were 15 weeks of classes each semester. (We were slower learners. ) I don't recall them ever having a Tuesday being used as a Monday or other such change. We got off Wednesday-Friday for Thanksgiving. My gut feeling is that school started the Wednesday after Labor Day to even things out, but I wouldn't swear to it. In order to get the 15 weeks in during the fall semester there were a couple of weeks of classes after we returned from the Holiday break. No one liked that at all. MLK day was not yet a Holiday.

I don't think that there were any problems in the Spring semester. It started on a Monday and ended on a Friday with a full week off around Easter.

A year or two before I left grad school in 1974, they introduced a three week or one month mini-semester where they gave short courses. Students were required to take a mini-course in, I think, two of their four years, but they abandoned this before anyone completed their four years under that system.

Well, summer is broken into three mini-semesters, so perhaps the scheme wasn't entirely abandoned.

One thing I do wonder, though, with the hostile takeover of the Student Union, are they going to use that to justify not having a GM Day, and that be the 14th Wednesday?

 

[Ralph Baer]

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Well, summer is broken into three mini-semesters, so perhaps the scheme wasn't entirely abandoned.

One thing I do wonder, though, with the hostile takeover of the Student Union, are they going to use that to justify not having a GM Day, and that be the 14th Wednesday?

I should have stated that the mini-semester which I referred to was after the winter Holidays.

Also, we didn't get off for GM day. OTOH there was free beer every evening that week either in the parking lot between the HFH and the BARH or in the HFH, depending upon the weather (lousy beer). That was more-or-less stopped when the NY drinking age was raised from 18 to 21. Oh, and there also were strippers there hired by the political parties. That was stopped when RPI started to have a significant number of female students. And don't think that you missed much -- most of the strippers weren't good looking and they only stripped to bikinis.

 

[FlagDUDE08]

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I should have stated that the mini-semester which I referred to was after the winter Holidays.

Also, we didn't get off for GM day. OTOH there was free beer every evening that week either in the parking lot between the HFH and the BARH or in the HFH, depending upon the weather (lousy beer). That was more-or-less stopped when the NY drinking age was raised from 18 to 21. Oh, and there also were strippers there hired by the political parties. That was stopped when RPI started to have a significant number of female students. And don't think that you missed much -- most of the strippers weren't good looking and they only stripped to bikinis.

Well, there was a time when the empress wanted everyone to study abroad during the winter, I assume to bring back full price international customers, and that's why the start of the 2nd semester was pushed back for a while.

I thought I heard that, at one point, the entire GM week was off? May not have been your era, but perhaps someone in between could confirm.

 

[Ralph Baer]

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Well, there was a time when the empress wanted everyone to study abroad during the winter, I assume to bring back full price international customers, and that's why the start of the 2nd semester was pushed back for a while.

I thought I heard that, at one point, the entire GM week was off? May not have been your era, but perhaps someone in between could confirm.

There was a GM week the entire time I was at RPI with campaigning and elections. Other aspects, e.g. beer were changing. When I was a grad student I was not paying much attention because I don't think that grad students could vote. Also as a TA, all but my last year, it would probably have been a conflict of interest to attend.

 

[FlagDUDE08]

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There was a GM week the entire time I was at RPI with campaigning and elections. Other aspects, e.g. beer were changing. When I was a grad student I was not paying much attention because I don't think that grad students could vote. Also as a TA, all but my last year, it would probably have been a conflict of interest to attend.

Oh, I don't doubt that there's a GM week. Same as when I was there. Only difference is, we had classes for 4 of the days of GM week. From what I understand, there was a time when there were classes for 0 days during GM week.

 

[Ralph Baer]

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Oh, I don't doubt that there's a GM week. Same as when I was there. Only difference is, we had classes for 4 of the days of GM week. From what I understand, there was a time when there were classes for 0 days during GM week.

If there was a time that there were no classes during GM week, it was not when I was there.

 

[hawthr]

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A few asked about the golf outing and the lack of information coming back from it. I was there and can fill in a bit. Likely some of the reason you haven't seen any comments on it...is that it was rather lightly attended from years past. A total of 20 groups (not all being foursomes) were in attendance. Weather (thankfully) held out nicely - some sprinkles at the end but the real rain didn't start until we sat down for dinner. A perk about lower attendance is the day on the course moves quicker and overall the day ends earlier. For those with drives home, it's appreciated.

Dana McGuane was not in attendance, for as you know he's abroad at the 5 Nations tournament. His son, Patrick, was there as has become custom. Also not there physically was Nolan, however he was there in spirit. Coach made a point of passing on word of Nolan, and to thank the RPI family for their continued thoughts and prayers to his family. During the event, I was told that Nolan plans to move back to BC as he recuperates. He's had a very tough road, and that's going to continue for some time. For those who know him, by all means reach out, as the interaction (even just on Twitter) helps a lot.

The boys were out in force on the tee boxes; many provided extra shots when asked, which was a nice return that that form. On one hole, as you saw, teams were required to putt using a hockey stick which was a nice addition. As we all know, there are many newbies this year, and they are all eager to get going. One thing that they cut from the dinner program was the player introductions - name, position, year, major - and I hope they bring that back.

The auction portion of the dinner was downright awkward. Not sure if it was related to the lighter attendance, frustration with the program's record of late, or frustration with the administration itself, but people were not opening their pocketbooks for anything. Signed Adam Oates jerseys went for $100 and $90. The experience on the bench, which has gone the last few years for $1000 or more, went for $300. I felt bad for Al Shibley, who emceed the event and ran that part.

As my form of silent protest, I wore my "Renew Rensselaer" pin during the event - it got a few looks at time from some members of the administration, but no comments. It did lead to a nice conversation with one of the members of the team, however - and we spoke about last fall's protest, and the Greek fiasco of late.

 

[Waite21]

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If there was a time that there were no classes during GM week, it was not when I was there.

I was there roughly the same time period, and I agree that classes were held during GM week.

In those days, GM week coincided with h-e-hockeysticks week for the fraternities. The fraternities made it obligatory for all pledges to attend all their classes during that week, regardless of how much (or little) sleep they were getting.

I can remember attending freshman classes to which the pledges would shuffle in, wearing their outlandish getups and carrying their paddles. It was not uncommon for professors to call a brief halt to proceedings midway through a class so that those who had fallen asleep could be awakened.

 

[Ralph Baer]

Re: RPI 2018 Off-Season Part II: In Memory of WaP

Today is 20 August 2018. There are 48 days until RPI's next game and still no roster.


This is based upon 7 October 2018 for the start of next season.

 

[Ralph Baer]

Re: RPI 2018 Off-Season Part II: In Memory of WaP

A few asked about the golf outing and the lack of information coming back from it. I was there and can fill in a bit. Likely some of the reason you haven't seen any comments on it...is that it was rather lightly attended from years past. A total of 20 groups (not all being foursomes) were in attendance. Weather (thankfully) held out nicely - some sprinkles at the end but the real rain didn't start until we sat down for dinner. A perk about lower attendance is the day on the course moves quicker and overall the day ends earlier. For those with drives home, it's appreciated.

Dana McGuane was not in attendance, for as you know he's abroad at the 5 Nations tournament. His son, Patrick, was there as has become custom. Also not there physically was Nolan, however he was there in spirit. Coach made a point of passing on word of Nolan, and to thank the RPI family for their continued thoughts and prayers to his family. During the event, I was told that Nolan plans to move back to BC as he recuperates. He's had a very tough road, and that's going to continue for some time. For those who know him, by all means reach out, as the interaction (even just on Twitter) helps a lot.

The boys were out in force on the tee boxes; many provided extra shots when asked, which was a nice return that that form. On one hole, as you saw, teams were required to putt using a hockey stick which was a nice addition. As we all know, there are many newbies this year, and they are all eager to get going. One thing that they cut from the dinner program was the player introductions - name, position, year, major - and I hope they bring that back.

The auction portion of the dinner was downright awkward. Not sure if it was related to the lighter attendance, frustration with the program's record of late, or frustration with the administration itself, but people were not opening their pocketbooks for anything. Signed Adam Oates jerseys went for $100 and $90. The experience on the bench, which has gone the last few years for $1000 or more, went for $300. I felt bad for Al Shibley, who emceed the event and ran that part.

As my form of silent protest, I wore my "Renew Rensselaer" pin during the event - it got a few looks at time from some members of the administration, but no comments. It did lead to a nice conversation with one of the members of the team, however - and we spoke about last fall's protest, and the Greek fiasco of late.

Thanks for the report. Did you notice any absences or presences among upper classmen which are not what we have been expecting?

 

[Ralph Baer]

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Today is 21 August 2018. There are 47 days until RPI's next game and still no roster.


This is based upon 7 October 2018 for the start of next season.

 

[Ralph Baer]

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Ken Ralph is going to Maine. https://www.uscho.com/2018/08/20/ra...tor-of-athletics-post-for-same-role-at-maine/