RPI 2018 Off-Season Part II: In Memory of WaP

[Wicked Slappaahs]

Why is this a big deal? At this point we know who left and who is coming in. I just did a quick scan and most teams have updated their rosters, but many (Clarkson, SLU, QU, etc.) have not. I know recent seasons have been frustrating, but now it seems like we are just looking for reasons to be bothered.

I didn't call it a big deal, I used the term irritant. Think of a steady drip ...of let downs and flat out failures...,a la water torture ....

In no particular order, a few "irritants" that pop into my head:

- They hire a new AC, ostensibly to replace their tragically injured AC, and throw out a press release only to quickly pull the release, pretending they never wrote one. A bit later they then refer to said mystery "new staff member" in the golf outing invite, assuming people know what the **** they are talking about.

- the president and AD mention grand plans of further extensive renovations to HFH with fundraising underway....anyone heard a recent update on how that effort is going ??? (Crickets chirping...)

- they hire a search firm that's never worked in D1 hockey , they ignore any/all hockey alumni of note in the coaching search...then expect everyone to sing kumbyah when the hire is announced...bad form by anyone's measure...

I could keep going, but what's the point really? As Flaggy has so faithfully maintained, nothing will change as long as Shirley remains as dictator. We can only hope the program survives until she departs.

RECENT seasons have been frustrating ?? Wow. That might be the understatement of the year. The team hasn't sniffed a trip to Lake Placid since Fridge was here !!! Recent ???? HAAAAA

 

[Waite21]

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Not that this is going to make anyone feel a whole lot better, but although the team hasn't made a trip to Lake Placid since Fridge was here, it could be argued that they were close enough to smell it in 2013.

That year, the team went 11-1 in their last 12 league games to finish in second place in the ECACH standings at the end of the regular season. They swept all four meetings with Clarkson and St. Lawrence, as well as both meetings with Yale, who went on to win the national championship.

All that earned them a first-round bye and a quarterfinal matchup with Brown. Brown surprised them in the first game of the best-of-three series, but after a dominating 6-2 victory in game 2, a trip to Lake Placid the next weekend seemed like a sure thing.

Then the Brown goalie stood on his head and stole game 3 for the Bears.

Though it is popular on this board to blame Dr. Shirley Jackson for everything under the sun, I don't think she served as the inspiration for his performance.

 

[Ralph Baer]

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Today is 16 August 2018. There are 52 days until RPI's next game and still no roster.


This is based upon 7 October 2018 for the start of next season.

 

[Ralph Baer]

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Not that this is going to make anyone feel a whole lot better, but although the team hasn't made a trip to Lake Placid since Fridge was here, it could be argued that they were close enough to smell it in 2013.

That year, the team went 11-1 in their last 12 league games to finish in second place in the ECACH standings at the end of the regular season. They swept all four meetings with Clarkson and St. Lawrence, as well as both meetings with Yale, who went on to win the national championship.

All that earned them a first-round bye and a quarterfinal matchup with Brown. Brown surprised them in the first game of the best-of-three series, but after a dominating 6-2 victory in game 2, a trip to Lake Placid the next weekend seemed like a sure thing.

Then the Brown goalie stood on his head and stole game 3 for the Bears.

Though it is popular on this board to blame Dr. Shirley Jackson for everything under the sun, I don't think she served as the inspiration for his performance.

Wasn't the ECAC final four still in Atlantic City in 2013?

 

[FlagDUDE08]

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Not that this is going to make anyone feel a whole lot better, but although the team hasn't made a trip to Lake Placid since Fridge was here, it could be argued that they were close enough to smell it in 2013.

That year, the team went 11-1 in their last 12 league games to finish in second place in the ECACH standings at the end of the regular season. They swept all four meetings with Clarkson and St. Lawrence, as well as both meetings with Yale, who went on to win the national championship.

All that earned them a first-round bye and a quarterfinal matchup with Brown. Brown surprised them in the first game of the best-of-three series, but after a dominating 6-2 victory in game 2, a trip to Lake Placid the next weekend seemed like a sure thing.

Then the Brown goalie stood on his head and stole game 3 for the Bears.

Though it is popular on this board to blame Dr. Shirley Jackson for everything under the sun, I don't think she served as the inspiration for his performance.

We were just as close to smelling it in 2009, even though it was a terrible season, and to Ralph's credit, it was in Albany that year. Yes, we choke when push comes to shove. I don't think anyone's putting the team's performance on anyone but the team as a whole.

There's more that goes into this than just the game itself, although that's what we're privileged to see with our dollars. There's everything that happens beforehand in putting together the performance and hyping the public (along with what WS already mentioned), and then there's after the performance: We've given the cash, we've been entertained, now what do they do with it? From what Without a Peer reported, the empress is putting it into the slus- er "general" fund. She's running out of money to fund her totalitarian empire, so she has to find another source. If what WaP wrote is true (and I see no reason as to why he'd fib), don't you think the golf outing money raised would just go to the slush fund? Knowing that, why would people want to go?

 

[rpi82]

I didn't call it a big deal, I used the term irritant. Think of a steady drip ...of let downs and flat out failures...,a la water torture ....

In no particular order, a few "irritants" that pop into my head:

- They hire a new AC, ostensibly to replace their tragically injured AC, and throw out a press release only to quickly pull the release, pretending they never wrote one. A bit later they then refer to said mystery "new staff member" in the golf outing invite, assuming people know what the **** they are talking about.

- the president and AD mention grand plans of further extensive renovations to HFH with fundraising underway....anyone heard a recent update on how that effort is going ??? (Crickets chirping...)

- they hire a search firm that's never worked in D1 hockey , they ignore any/all hockey alumni of note in the coaching search...then expect everyone to sing kumbyah when the hire is announced...bad form by anyone's measure...

I could keep going, but what's the point really? As Flaggy has so faithfully maintained, nothing will change as long as Shirley remains as dictator. We can only hope the program survives until she departs.

RECENT seasons have been frustrating ?? Wow. That might be the understatement of the year. The team hasn't sniffed a trip to Lake Placid since Fridge was here !!! Recent ???? HAAAAA

I get it, but I really think the roster thing is trivial.

As for the assistant coach release I'll bet that was an innocent issue. My guess is that Nolan hadn't been officially accepted for a long-term disability status yet so they couldn't officially announce a new coach and be compliant with NCAA rules. They really are dealing with a unique situation and I hope they are doing so in a manner that is best for all concerned.

 

[Ralph Baer]

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Did You know??? RPI Men's Hockey has begun a fun partnership with STRIDE! They support us in many ways; especially our sled hockey team. this past spring they hosted a teen dance on campus. <br>Today the... <a href="https://t.co/VMXOrodz8F">https://t.co/VMXOrodz8F</a></p>— STRIDEWoundedWarrior (@STRIDEWounded) <a href="https://twitter.com/STRIDEWounded/status/1030096001237958657?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 16, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Ralph Baer]

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Campgrounds all set up ! Well done by <a href="https://twitter.com/RPI_Hockey?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@rpi_hockey</a>. Thanks for the partnership STRIDE adaptive sports. <a href="https://twitter.com/rpi?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@rpi</a> <a href="https://t.co/ThXbbAclE3">pic.twitter.com/ThXbbAclE3</a></p>— Coach Dave Smith (@RPI_HockeyCoach) <a href="https://twitter.com/RPI_HockeyCoach/status/1030221474290905088?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 16, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[25+years]

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I get it, but I really think the roster thing is trivial.

As for the assistant coach release I'll bet that was an innocent issue. My guess is that Nolan hadn't been officially accepted for a long-term disability status yet so they couldn't officially announce a new coach and be compliant with NCAA rules. They really are dealing with a unique situation and I hope they are doing so in a manner that is best for all concerned.[/QUOTE
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I totally agree with RPI 82. I think the AC matter is likely as he describes it. That explanation makes the most sense. As to the roster and all the pining for the best years in the past dozen: I believe the consensus was that we needed to give Coach Smith a few years to show us what he could do. Well we aren't there yet and the team is quickly, though not completely yet, taking on his mark. I could care less when the roster is posted or whether SAJ is the one to point the finger at. What will be most telling is what the team does on the ice and whether we see improvement in the performance and in the number of wins. I think we are all a bit anxious to see what all the changes will bring, but as Ralph Baer daily reminds us (and we are grateful for Ralph being the glue that holds us together)...it won't be long now.

 

[tony/troy]

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Has anyone noticed that the lacrosse coaching staff appears to have undergone a case of "Chuck Cunningham Syndrome". Just like good old Chuck all those years ago, the head coach appears to have simply vanished in to thin air without anyone hearing or knowing a thing about it. Not aware of a single mention of it anywhere until the announcement that a new lacrosse coach was hired. Guess it was just assumed no one would ever notice. Has that consulting firm now been retained to croak people and do they use the "Chuck Cunningham Syndrome" to do it? Guess younger folks are probably doing a search for "Chuck Cunningham Syndrome".

 

[Ralph Baer]

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Today is 17 August 2018. There are 51 days until RPI's next game and still no roster.


This is based upon 7 October 2018 for the start of next season.

 

[Ralph Baer]

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">More pasta than you can imagine with grilled chicken and a hungry crew. <a href="https://twitter.com/RPI_Hockey?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RPI_Hockey</a> well done first day. <a href="https://twitter.com/RPIAthletics?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RPIAthletics</a> <a href="https://t.co/rGzjTtfe0l">pic.twitter.com/rGzjTtfe0l</a></p>— Coach Dave Smith (@RPI_HockeyCoach) <a href="https://twitter.com/RPI_HockeyCoach/status/1030400857790205953?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 17, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[Wicked Slappaahs]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Guys working on defining our TEAM CULTURE. Ownership and engagement ⁦<a href="https://twitter.com/RPI_Hockey?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RPI_Hockey</a>⁩ <a href="https://t.co/IPjwCAmKiS">pic.twitter.com/IPjwCAmKiS</a></p>— Coach Dave Smith (@RPI_HockeyCoach) <a href="https://twitter.com/RPI_HockeyCoach/status/1029805905397903361?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 15, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Is #12 Ture Linden?

Only the roster knows....

 

[Wicked Slappaahs]

....Though it is popular on this board to blame Dr. Shirley Jackson for everything under the sun, I don't think she served as the inspiration for his performance.

Completely disagree. Of course she can't skate and put the puck in the net. But financial support aside, by all reasonable measures she is at best indifferent to the program. She struggles to attend one game a season, with the luxury box staring out empty and dark, an insult to the faithful most evenings.

Contrast this approach with Clarkson's President who paid for the CCT band's travel to Ireland so they could be a part of the Friendship 4 trip last year (This as told by a CCT band member)

I'm fine with giving Smitty time -- he's on the clock now given the roster purge ... my rub as I stated, is the admin, the off ice and continuing fan relations ineptitude.

 

[turk181]

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">More pasta than you can imagine with grilled chicken and a hungry crew. <a href="https://twitter.com/RPI_Hockey?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RPI_Hockey</a> well done first day. <a href="https://twitter.com/RPIAthletics?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RPIAthletics</a> <a href="https://t.co/rGzjTtfe0l">pic.twitter.com/rGzjTtfe0l</a></p>— Coach Dave Smith (@RPI_HockeyCoach) <a href="https://twitter.com/RPI_HockeyCoach/status/1030400857790205953?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 17, 2018</a></blockquote>
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.....maybe they sent a plate of Slovakian food to Michael Cameron & it’s not sitting well.

 

[jstadts]

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great cause..Hope no one picks up lyme disease

 

[giwan]

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Completely disagree. Of course she can't skate and put the puck in the net. But financial support aside, by all reasonable measures she is at best indifferent to the program. She struggles to attend one game a season, with the luxury box staring out empty and dark, an insult to the faithful most evenings.

Contrast this approach with Clarkson's President who paid for the CCT band's travel to Ireland so they could be a part of the Friendship 4 trip last year (This as told by a CCT band member)

I'm fine with giving Smitty time -- he's on the clock now given the roster purge ... my rub as I stated, is the admin, the off ice and continuing fan relations ineptitude.

Fully agree, though she does not have a DIRECT effect, the attitude she shows of indifference does matter, especially when a program is struggling. I must also add the AD is not doing anyone any favors with how he has been handling things as well.

By the way that so-called luxury box is a joke.

 

[Ralph Baer]

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Fully agree, though she does not have a DIRECT effect, the attitude she shows of indifference does matter, especially when a program is struggling. I must also add the AD is not doing anyone any favors with how he has been handling things as well.

By the way that so-called luxury box is a joke.

I do not understand why we hired an AD who had retired.

 

[Ralph Baer]

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I guess that this is RPI-related.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I have some news.<br><br>I will be rejoining The Daily Gazette on Aug. 28. I have been named Associate Sports Editor. I am excited to be returning to the Gazette. When I left there Sept. 29, I thought my newspaper career was over. But it's not. I can't wait to get started. <a href="https://t.co/EAl1aSTNZl">pic.twitter.com/EAl1aSTNZl</a></p>— Ken Schott (@slapschotts) <a href="https://twitter.com/slapschotts/status/1030565236619837441?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 17, 2018</a></blockquote>
<script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script><blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I want to thank everyone at WRGB CBS6 for their help in the transition from sportswriter to news assignment editor. In particular, I want to thank news director Chris Gegg and morning news executive producer Chris Cornell for their patience as I learned about the job.</p>— Ken Schott (@slapschotts) <a href="https://twitter.com/slapschotts/status/1030565412755435520?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 17, 2018</a></blockquote>
<script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script><blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I hope to restart my Parting Schotts blog upon my return</p>— Ken Schott (@slapschotts) <a href="https://twitter.com/slapschotts/status/1030565680171675648?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 17, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[joecct]

I guess that this is RPI-related.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I have some news.<br><br>I will be rejoining The Daily Gazette on Aug. 28. I have been named Associate Sports Editor. I am excited to be returning to the Gazette. When I left there Sept. 29, I thought my newspaper career was over. But it's not. I can't wait to get started. <a href="https://t.co/EAl1aSTNZl">pic.twitter.com/EAl1aSTNZl</a></p>— Ken Schott (@slapschotts) <a href="https://twitter.com/slapschotts/status/1030565236619837441?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 17, 2018</a></blockquote>
<script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script><blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I want to thank everyone at WRGB CBS6 for their help in the transition from sportswriter to news assignment editor. In particular, I want to thank news director Chris Gegg and morning news executive producer Chris Cornell for their patience as I learned about the job.</p>— Ken Schott (@slapschotts) <a href="https://twitter.com/slapschotts/status/1030565412755435520?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 17, 2018</a></blockquote>
<script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script><blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I hope to restart my Parting Schotts blog upon my return</p>— Ken Schott (@slapschotts) <a href="https://twitter.com/slapschotts/status/1030565680171675648?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 17, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Definitely not a schott in the dark.