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RPI 2013/14 Part III: Maximum Overdrivel

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Havasu M said:
Not sold on DeVito. 4 points all year and no goals since BC in Oct. I would have played Riley B just for development purposes more since your not losing much. I don't know what Jimmie D is doing on the second power play unit he is just not a big skill player. I was disappointed to see Appert match his top line with the top Carey line in the SLU game and the results were no goals for RPI and three for Carey's line. I think it is dumb to waste your top line that way Carey is a great player on O and D. and it showed. Always liked a checking line against the opponents top line. Tired of this 'engineer hockey' which invites penalties as we have seen all year and no adjustments as mentioned previously. We have plenty of skilled players so every goal doesnt have to be a crash the net goal. I wonder if Oates would have sat under this system. Not very fast and did not play the body much. He did have pretty good hands though. Just my opinion.
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I think that he (DeVito) progressed this year from what I saw at the beginning of the year. I also dont like the way the guys have been utilized but again dont know the rationale so will sit quietly. More to my point is that guys that we didnt see playing were ones that I thought had something to offer and had played well when they did (lets use Bokenfohr and Reno). Completely agree that if these kids dont get any playing time (or consistent playing time), I dont know how to expect that they will develop and play "Engineer hockey".
 
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engineerhockeyfan said:
Doc, based on Seth Apperts comments throughout his tenure as RPI coach, I don't think we will adapt to anything.
All he ever talks about is playing the RPI way. No adjustments, just the process. :(
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That will have to change-be adapted-or we will not get very far in the playoffs this year. There are no pushovers for us to play and each series will be a war.
 
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Havasu M said:
Not sold on DeVito. 4 points all year and no goals since BC in Oct. I would have played Riley B just for development purposes more since your not losing much. I don't know what Jimmie D is doing on the second power play unit he is just not a big skill player. I was disappointed to see Appert match his top line with the top Carey line in the SLU game and the results were no goals for RPI and three for Carey's line. I think it is dumb to waste your top line that way Carey is a great player on O and D. and it showed. Always liked a checking line against the opponents top line. Tired of this 'engineer hockey' which invites penalties as we have seen all year and no adjustments as mentioned previously. We have plenty of skilled players so every goal doesnt have to be a crash the net goal. I wonder if Oates would have sat under this system. Not very fast and did not play the body much. He did have pretty good hands though. Just my opinion.
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Devito and Wood are much more bruiser players than anything. That having been said, perhaps we are looking for something other than the pass-pass-turnover (for the first time in eight years) and creating a bruiser sort of crash the net power play. Tinordi's also on that line (unless he's been moved up, first PP is NHL + Zalewski and Higgs), so why not suit the players to their advantage? I wonder if we put Bokenfohr on the blue line, and maybe also stick Curadi in the front?
 
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Senna said:
+1. I agree that Bokenfohr has played well and am at a loss as to why all of a sudden that Reno wasnt getting any ice time. DeVito seem to get better each game, and I always loved Wood's speed and aggressiveness. Granted that Wood got some significant penalties, but why does he sit when there are multiple others that got the same, game after game after game, that didnt. I'm perplexed and just doesnt make sense to me...not that I know or have any sense for the reason things are done at a team level.
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I agree with you 100% on all you have stated here Senna!
 
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Havasu M said:
Not sold on DeVito. 4 points all year and no goals since BC in Oct. I would have played Riley B just for development purposes more since your not losing much. I don't know what Jimmie D is doing on the second power play unit he is just not a big skill player. I was disappointed to see Appert match his top line with the top Carey line in the SLU game and the results were no goals for RPI and three for Carey's line. I think it is dumb to waste your top line that way Carey is a great player on O and D. and it showed. Always liked a checking line against the opponents top line. Tired of this 'engineer hockey' which invites penalties as we have seen all year and no adjustments as mentioned previously. We have plenty of skilled players so every goal doesnt have to be a crash the net goal. I wonder if Oates would have sat under this system. Not very fast and did not play the body much. He did have pretty good hands though. Just my opinion.
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Question for you - if SLU plays their top line of Carey every second shift, and RPI matches that with a checking line, which line of RPI's will play most of the game? How much action will Haggerty's line get?
 
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That has to be one of the most frustrating things, honestly - there are some players for sure who have taken some very, very dumb penalties repeatedly. I'm not a proponent of benching a guy for taking one foolish or costly penalty, but there are multiple guys on this team who are good for a bad penalty (or two) in practically every game. That isn't helpful at all.
 
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sk8tronthepond said:
Question for you - if SLU plays their top line of Carey every second shift, and RPI matches that with a checking line, which line of RPI's will play most of the game? How much action will Haggerty's line get?
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Haggerty's line will still get every fourth shift or so. If Carey and co. play every other shift they will not be effective in the late second and third periods. Among Rogic Tinordi Schroeder Devito McGowan and Miller you could put together two solid checking lines that chip in some goals every now and then as they do now not that this would ever happen. The real question is in order to maximize your top line scoring who would you match them up with the last change? the third or fourth lines or the top line. Appert has done this before with bad results. I remember his first year when he put his top line with McDonald against Harvard & Dart and got blown out 7-1 or 8-1 or something. H & D 's top lines had a lot of points. A lot of your other points about Bok and Reno and Wood with speed and penalties are spot on. Good discussion probably doesn't belong in a drivel context.
 
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The Kratch ratings for Rensselaer and Dartmouth are 131.5 and 68.2 respectively. That calculates to an individual win probability of 65.8% for Tute. In a best two out of three that win probability increases to 73.0%. So according to Kratch, Tute is almost a 3:1 favorite to advance. Kratch does not take into account the fact that we are the home team nor does it factor in that we play our first game on a Friday evening nor that we have to play the second period of each game nor how both teams have performed lately. I have to admit, it seems that if Vegas put those odds on the board, there would be a flood of Dartmouth money.
 
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DeepRed72 said:
The Kratch ratings for Rensselaer and Dartmouth are 131.5 and 68.2 respectively. That calculates to an individual win probability of 65.8% for Tute. In a best two out of three that win probability increases to 74.0%. So according to Kratch, Tute is almost a 3:1 favorite to advance. Kratch does not take into account the fact that we are the home team nor does it factor in that we play our first game on a Friday evening nor that we have to play the second period of each game nor how both teams have performed lately. I have to admit, it seems that if Vegas put those odds on the board, there would be a flood of Dartmouth money.
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First off, it's KRACH, not Kratch.

Second, KRACH factors in the entire season, which is a big reason why it is a poor predictor in this case.
 
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Red Cloud said:
First off, it's KRACH, not Kratch.

Second, KRACH factors in the entire season, which is a big reason why it is a poor predictor in this case.
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+1 Take the last 10 games comparison and I'ld bet Dartmouth comes out ahead.
 
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lugnut92 said:
Today is March 4, 2014. There aren't any players ahead of Brock Higgs! Did you vote today?

Vote HERE.

We are very near the point where if you've been using the "vote for Brock and the two lowest vote getters" method, you should STOP. If Brock passes 33.3%, this plan will actually decrease his share, not increase it.
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Vote today?
 
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turk181 said:
Vote today?
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I have been voting for Higgs every day. But I must confess that I am astounded that no one has commented on the false assertion that by voting for others it will somehow increase Higgs' percentage. By voting for others it will only increase their percentage at everbody else's expense. This is simple math.
 
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Red Cloud said:
First off, it's KRACH, not Kratch.

Second, KRACH factors in the entire season, which is a big reason why it is a poor predictor in this case.
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Oops, my bad for screwing up the acronym. Apologies to Ken. I agree about the entire season thing that is why I added the condition that the probabilities did not take into account how the teams performed lately. Years ago, the PWR calculations did take into account the last 10 games as a factor in that calculation. However that was dropped because not all schedules are equivalent and it penalized those teams that had tougher opponents down the stretch. Accordingly how a team 'performed lately' can be somewhat subjective.
 
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