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RPI 2013/14 Part III: Maximum Overdrivel

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<a href="http://imgur.com/zlVdtgF"><img src="http://i.imgur.com/zlVdtgF.png" title="ECAC PIM Box Plot" /></a>

Dots are outliers. Whiskers extend 1.5*IQR beyond the quartiles (or to the min/max value if within that range).

Quinnipiac takes a lot of penalties. Yale doesn't.

EDIT: It should be noted that n isn't equal for all twelve teams. The Ivies have all played 25 games (24 for Cornell), and the non-Ivies have played 30 (32 for Clarkson, Quinnipiac).

EDIT 2 (playing with stat software is fun): Quinnipiac is the only team whose distribution of PIMs is normal.
 
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All these posts about PIM-i think we should exclude the 10 min ute penalties since they do not lead to our team being short handed. They are usually, but not always, add ons anyway and several have come at the 60 minute mark of a game where they can be meaningless. i, for one, would prefer to find out how many minutes and seconds we are down 2 men compared to our opponents. How often we are short handed in the last 5 minutes of a period(especially the third0 compared to opponents. I find these penalties to be more significant. But that is just my usual 2¢
 
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DrDemento said:
All these posts about PIM-i think we should exclude the 10 min ute penalties since they do not lead to our team being short handed. They are usually, but not always, add ons anyway and several have come at the 60 minute mark of a game where they can be meaningless. i, for one, would prefer to find out how many minutes and seconds we are down 2 men compared to our opponents. How often we are short handed in the last 5 minutes of a period(especially the third0 compared to opponents. I find these penalties to be more significant. But that is just my usual 2¢
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That is definitely a more telling stat as far as the actual effect of penalties on a game. Knowing the amount of time per 60 minutes of play that we've been shorthanded would definitely be interesting. That said, I don't feel like scouring 30 box scores that closely.
 
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Thanks everyone.

lugnut92 said:
<a href="http://imgur.com/zlVdtgF"><img src="http://i.imgur.com/zlVdtgF.png" title="ECAC PIM Box Plot" /></a>

Dots are outliers. Whiskers extend 1.5*IQR beyond the quartiles (or to the min/max value if within that range).

Quinnipiac takes a lot of penalties. Yale doesn't.

EDIT: It should be noted that n isn't equal for all twelve teams. The Ivies have all played 25 games (24 for Cornell), and the non-Ivies have played 30 (32 for Clarkson, Quinnipiac).

EDIT 2 (playing with stat software is fun): Quinnipiac is the only team whose distribution of PIMs is normal.
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As I thought, we have several outliers that distort things. Besides for that we seem pretty typical in the league.


And no one has had a penalty-free game.
 
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Good God I have never seen as much cherrypicking, misquoting and botched analysis in one place as I currently see happening over in the Union thread. As Red Cloud once wisely said, please, let the hilarity continue.
 
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Ralph Baer said:
Did one of you use the biased estimate of the variance (with 1/N) and the other the unbiased (with 1/(N-1) )?
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I took the difference from the mean for each one, squared them, and then averaged the squares for the variance. That should be evident in my number listing.
 
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ibanezist00 said:
Good God I have never seen as much cherrypicking, misquoting and botched analysis in one place as I currently see happening over in the Union thread. As Red Cloud once wisely said, please, let the hilarity continue.
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I'd be shocked if there were five regular posters on any thread that haven't, at some point, done what you are accusing. And yes, I'm including myself on this one. Glass houses, if you know what I mean. ;)
 
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ibanezist00 said:
Good God I have never seen as much cherrypicking, misquoting and botched analysis in one place as I currently see happening over in the Union thread. As Red Cloud once wisely said, please, let the hilarity continue.
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That one guy, I promise you, has a generalized disorder characterized by significantly impaired cognitive functioning and deficits in two or more adaptive behaviors.
 
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FlagDUDE08 said:
I took the difference from the mean for each one, squared them, and then averaged the squares for the variance. That should be evident in my number listing.
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For reasons which I have long forgotten, but probably someone else knows, that gives a biased estimate. Instead of dividing by N to get the average, one should divide by N-1. Obviously if N is big enough, it doesn't matter much.
 
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Ralph Baer said:
For reasons which I have long forgotten, but probably someone else knows, that gives a biased estimate. Instead of dividing by N to get the average, one should divide by N-1. Obviously if N is big enough, it doesn't matter much.
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Jenny claims I have an N which is plenty big enough.:D
 
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Red Cloud said:
That one guy, I promise you, has a generalized disorder characterized by significantly impaired cognitive functioning and deficits in two or more adaptive behaviors.
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Bleuler and Freud might agree with that.
 
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lugnut92 said:
<a href="http://imgur.com/zlVdtgF"><img src="http://i.imgur.com/zlVdtgF.png" title="ECAC PIM Box Plot" /></a>

playing with stat software is fun
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What package did you do this in? Very nice.
 
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DrDemento said:
Bleuler and Freud might agree with that.
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Which one studied bizarre obsessions? It's so odd seeing a fan of a team in 1st place talking so frequently about the one in 7th.

They should have nothing to worry about, especially now that White Mike Tyson is back behind the bench.
 
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Red Cloud said:
Which one studied bizarre obsessions? It's so odd seeing a fan of a team in 1st place talking so frequently about the one in 7th.

They should have nothing to worry about, especially now that White Mike Tyson is back behind the bench.
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Definitely more than one fan, but your point still stands.

I'm still trying to wrap my head around how a reference to Eddie Haskell is relevant, though.
 
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ibanezist00 said:
I'm still trying to wrap my head around how a reference to Eddie Haskell is relevant, though.
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Probably because it's coming from Mrs. Cleaver.

"Ward, I think you were a little hard on the Beaver."
 
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Mathias Lange stopped 31 of 34 shots in Austria's 4-0 loss to Slovenia today. He ends his Olympics with a 1-1 record for 1-3 Austria and stopped 65 of 69 (.942 s%)shots faced against Slovenia, Norway (3-1) and Canada. That's a pretty fair showing.
 
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