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RPI 2011 Recruit Thread Pt. II

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Ralph Baer said:
That would put the pressure on JL instead of the upperclassmen. Although it would be nice to see JL step right into Polacek's shoes, and eventually he should do that, I am not counting on it to start next season. I would be quite satisfied if he could duplicate Polacek's freshman year.

You raised an interesting, and probably valid, point, that JL getting a comparatively large percentage of his points at even strength is a plus.
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I believe his age will help I think a lot of times the transition issues are most evident w/true freshmen there is a big difference between an 18yr old and a 20yr old in maturity both mentally and especially physically....thats why Im so amazed @ Koudys poise and size..he is an exception to the rule By the time he's 20 he's going to be a monster player.I believe a Scott Stevens like player.Music to DrD's ears.
 
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Ralph Baer said:
On Thursday, the Cornwall Colts defeated the Carleton Place Canadians 2-1. Jacob Laliberté assisted on both goals and had a cross checking penalty. He was named #3 star. http://pointstreak.com/prostats/boxscore.html?gameid=1318733

Laliberté's line is now 31-25-32-57-12.
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Eight game winning streak for Cornwall with JL getting on the scoresheet in all of them. Part of 11 of the team's last 14 goals (all in wins, of course). Kid is a gamer.
 
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troyboy said:
I believe his age will help I think a lot of times the transition issues are most evident w/true freshmen there is a big difference between an 18yr old and a 20yr old in maturity both mentally and especially physically....thats why Im so amazed @ Koudys poise and size..he is an exception to the rule By the time he's 20 he's going to be a monster player.I believe a Scott Stevens like player.Music to DrD's ears.
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Completely agree with everything you say. For what it's worth, JL will be 21 when he first practices under Coach Appert. I really think he has a chance to be a transcendental NCAA player, ala Martin St. Louis.
 
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knsmith said:
Eight game winning streak for Cornwall with JL getting on the scoresheet in all of them. Part of 11 of the team's last 14 goals (all in wins, of course). Kid is a gamer.
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I'm trying not to get all giddy about JL.....Your not helping !!!
 
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knsmith said:
Completely agree with everything you say. For what it's worth, JL will be 21 when he first practices under Coach Appert. I really think he has a chance to be a transcendental NCAA player, ala Martin St. Louis.
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Agree 1000%....perfect comparison
 
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Ralph Baer said:
I never heard that just having had season tickets made one a representative, not that it might not be correct. I thought that you had to at least be a booster club member to count.
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Because I've had season tickets for a few UConn sports over the years they send me a copy of the compliance handbook each year. See the definition of a representative on page 2. I've also seen virtually identical language published by other schools.
 
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knsmith said:
Completely agree with everything you say. For what it's worth, JL will be 21 when he first practices under Coach Appert. I really think he has a chance to be a transcendental NCAA player, ala Martin St. Louis.
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KN-I am glad others are getting on board about this kid. For 3 years now I have been anxious to get him to Troy. He has all the tools. I think his size may limit his pro potential (at least to start) but he will be an impact player at the NCAA level for sure. And i strongly agree that coming in at age 21 he should be unlike most freshmen. This is going to be exciting and a lot of fun!
 
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troyboy said:
I'm trying not to get all giddy about JL.....Your not helping !!!
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Maybe I can help. His numbers are incredible, but he has done nothing to improve his talents against better opponents. Staying in Cornwall proves nothing. It was a no win situation. Fortunately, his production has not fallen off. If it did, there would be no hope.
I too look forward to seeing him in Cherry and White and hope that he can bring his numbers to the ECAC.
But I will not get giddy until I see him against better opposition.
 
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engineerhockeyfan said:
Maybe I can help. His numbers are incredible, but he has done nothing to improve his talents against better opponents. Staying in Cornwall proves nothing. It was a no win situation. Fortunately, his production has not fallen off. If it did, there would be no hope.
I too look forward to seeing him in Cherry and White and hope that he can bring his numbers to the ECAC.
But I will not get giddy until I see him against better opposition.
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JL averaged 2.20 ppg last year and 1.84 ppg this year, so it has fallen off to this point.
 
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engineerhockeyfan said:
Maybe I can help. His numbers are incredible, but he has done nothing to improve his talents against better opponents. Staying in Cornwall proves nothing. It was a no win situation. Fortunately, his production has not fallen off. If it did, there would be no hope.
I too look forward to seeing him in Cherry and White and hope that he can bring his numbers to the ECAC.
But I will not get giddy until I see him against better opposition.
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I agree that there were more challenging options available than Cornwall.

HOWEVER, let's look at a couple numbers to put the alleged drop in production in context ... his team has gone from being a "good" upper-tier team in his league to an absolutely dominant team and he has unequivocally remained (by far) the best skater on the team. Last year power play scoring resulted in 41% of his points; this year it is 30% (meanwhile, the team's power play rate is essentially the same as last year). It was reported in the offseason that JL was making a new commitment to building a two-way game. While it is difficult to gauge the effectiveness of this without +/- stats, his team's GAA has gone from 2.8 last year to 1.6 this year (goals for has gone from 3.9 to 3.7). Normally I would find it difficult to attribute any of this to one forward, BUT when you have a guy who is unequivocally the team's best player and is the team's captain, it seems to me to be fair to attribute a portion of the turnaround to him.

All this goes to say that I think JL has done a fantastic job this year of squeezing every last benefit out of staying Cornwall rather than being complacent as many of us had thought he would be and has given me renewed confidence in the things he can do in Troy as soon as he gets here.
 
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knsmith said:
I agree that there were more challenging options available than Cornwall.

HOWEVER, let's look at a couple numbers to put the alleged drop in production in context ... his team has gone from being a "good" upper-tier team in his league to an absolutely dominant team and he has unequivocally remained (by far) the best skater on the team. Last year power play scoring resulted in 41% of his points; this year it is 30% (meanwhile, the team's power play rate is essentially the same as last year). It was reported in the offseason that JL was making a new commitment to building a two-way game. While it is difficult to gauge the effectiveness of this without +/- stats, his team's GAA has gone from 2.8 last year to 1.6 this year (goals for has gone from 3.9 to 3.7). Normally I would find it difficult to attribute any of this to one forward, BUT when you have a guy who is unequivocally the team's best player and is the team's captain, it seems to me to be fair to attribute a portion of the turnaround to him.

All this goes to say that I think JL has done a fantastic job this year of squeezing every last benefit out of staying Cornwall rather than being complacent as many of us had thought he would be and has given me renewed confidence in the things he can do in Troy as soon as he gets here.
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JL's family advisor couldn't have done a better job. :)
 
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troyboy said:
I'm trying not to get all giddy about JL.....Your not helping !!!
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Last years CJHL leading scorer Damian Cross is a freshman at Providence. He has played in a total of 5 or 6 games and has 1 point on the season. I understand Hockey East is a bit tougher of a league than the ECAC but if he goes from scoring 120+ points last season to barely seeing ice time this year, I hold off any excitement and hopes for JL until I see him in Cherry and White and in the lineup night in and night out scoring. Go ahead blast away at me folks but thats just how I feel.
 
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fishcore12 said:
Last years CJHL leading scorer Damian Cross is a freshman at Providence. He has played in a total of 5 or 6 games and has 1 point on the season. I understand Hockey East is a bit tougher of a league than the ECAC but if he goes from scoring 120+ points last season to barely seeing ice time this year, I hold off any excitement and hopes for JL until I see him in Cherry and White and in the lineup night in and night out scoring. Go ahead blast away at me folks but thats just how I feel.
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and Cross was traded for JL. :eek: ;)
 
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