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RPI 2011-12 Part V: Don't Stop Believing

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I don't remember Ruid ever being on the radar for recruiting, although there wasn't a hotstove back then like there is today.

i just remember how important he was to that line at Vermont. Perrin and St Louis were just like little fleas out there and needed that bigger forward with them to get them some room to roam. We had fits handling that line.
 
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Post 133. I think that he passed on a camp invite, not a team invite.

It wasn't a camp invitation. He was asked to join toward the end of the team's exhibition schedule - well after the team's 9-3 win over the Engineers. He would have had to withdraw from UVM in the middle of the season. Homola turned it down, reportedly because he didn't think it wouldn't be fair to Vermont or the Olympic Team players that had gone through camp and played dozens of games to win their position.
 
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Correct. I actually played youth hockey against him for years, he played for Saratoga, I played for Troy.

J.C. was from Ballston Lake and played at Shenendehowa from 1988 thru 1991 (8th, 9th, 10th grades)...I believe he then went to prep school. Hockeydb has him being from Ballston Spa but a 1996 article from the Gazette comments him as being a Ballston Lake native. Since he played at Shen, I'd believe the Gazette on this one.
 
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i just remember how important he was to that line at Vermont. Perrin and St Louis were just like little fleas out there and needed that bigger forward with them to get them some room to roam. We had fits handling that line.

Who didn't have fits with that line...;)
 
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Finishing in the top half of the ECAC or making their conference tournament has been a problem for RPI for a decade and I don't see anyone here calling for them to move to Atlantic Hockey. If there are people that don't believe RPI should move the best league in the East if not the country, given the opportunity, then I have to wonder what your motivation is in cheering for RPI hockey. This is an absolute no brainer IMO. Any ECAC teams that RPI has a rival with or draw any fans to the fieldhouse could be scheduled in non-league play. I'm guessing that a home schedule with BU,BC,Maine,UNH,UVM,UNH,ND with Cornell, Clarkson & Union mixed in would be very attractive to local fans and probably wouldn't hurt in New Englamd recruiting where RPI has become almost non-existent.
 
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Finishing in the top half of the ECAC or making their conference tournament has been a problem for RPI for a decade and I don't see anyone here calling for them to move to Atlantic Hockey. If there are people that don't believe RPI should move the best league in the East if not the country, given the opportunity, then I have to wonder what your motivation is in cheering for RPI hockey. This is an absolute no brainer IMO. Any ECAC teams that RPI has a rival with or draw any fans to the fieldhouse could be scheduled in non-league play. I'm guessing that a home schedule with BU,BC,Maine,UNH,UVM,UNH,ND with Cornell, Clarkson & Union mixed in would be very attractive to local fans and probably wouldn't hurt in New Englamd recruiting where RPI has become almost non-existent.

John.......going to Hockey East would definitely be exciting. However, you can't exist in Hockey East based on Shirley's current athletic/academic model for incoming student-athletes or the University as a whole. Now, I don't want to get into the lower the incoming academic standards debate. Keep the admission requirements as the ARE now. However, keeping some student-athletes in school for 4 years may be a challenge based on the academic demand of the cirriculum. Why bring in student-atletes who may be over their heads academically?

You would have to though if you wanted to compete. Heck, look at BU, they lost Charlie Coyle who supposedly flunked out of BU. How does that happen?
 
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Finishing in the top half of the ECAC or making their conference tournament has been a problem for RPI for a decade and I don't see anyone here calling for them to move to Atlantic Hockey. If there are people that don't believe RPI should move the best league in the East if not the country, given the opportunity, then I have to wonder what your motivation is in cheering for RPI hockey. This is an absolute no brainer IMO. Any ECAC teams that RPI has a rival with or draw any fans to the fieldhouse could be scheduled in non-league play. I'm guessing that a home schedule with BU,BC,Maine,UNH,UVM,UNH,ND with Cornell, Clarkson & Union mixed in would be very attractive to local fans and probably wouldn't hurt in New Englamd recruiting where RPI has become almost non-existent.

Nice to know Connecticut is not in New England. ;) and yes I realize you said almost

Have we even been targeting New England since Monty went to Dubuque? From what I can tell, a good chunk of our recruiting (three current recruits out of 10, plus 1 current goalie and defensemen) has been towards student-athletes from Western NY, with two more recruits (and a number of current players) from other parts of this state. I certainly realize it's not as special as having someone local play for the team, but I find it a good thing that we're looking to tap talent from this state.
 
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Finishing in the top half of the ECAC or making their conference tournament has been a problem for RPI for a decade and I don't see anyone here calling for them to move to Atlantic Hockey. If there are people that don't believe RPI should move the best league in the East if not the country, given the opportunity, then I have to wonder what your motivation is in cheering for RPI hockey. This is an absolute no brainer IMO. Any ECAC teams that RPI has a rival with or draw any fans to the fieldhouse could be scheduled in non-league play. I'm guessing that a home schedule with BU,BC,Maine,UNH,UVM,UNH,ND with Cornell, Clarkson & Union mixed in would be very attractive to local fans and probably wouldn't hurt in New Englamd recruiting where RPI has become almost non-existent.

First, I don't care if they stay or if they go. My motivation for rooting for the engineers is loyalty. I saw my first game on parents weekend of 1993. RPI was ranked 5th in the nation going in and they lost to an inferior Big East team. I am still rooting for RPI.
Now, how do you figure that the Big East is that much better than ECAC? Take out BU and BC and you have ECAC east. The rest of the schools are inferior scholastically and just about even with their hockey skills.
I don't see it as a no brainer at all. JMO
 
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First, I don't care if they stay or if they go. My motivation for rooting for the engineers is loyalty. I saw my first game on parents weekend of 1993. RPI was ranked 5th in the nation going in and they lost to an inferior Big East team. I am still rooting for RPI.
Now, how do you figure that the Big East is that much better than ECAC? Take out BU and BC and you have ECAC east. The rest of the schools are inferior scholastically and just about even with their hockey skills.
I don't see it as a no brainer at all. JMO


How do I figure HOCKEY EAST is much better than the ECAC. I don't know, lets start with yearly PWR's for the last 15 years, amount of teams in the NCAA tourney, amount of National Championships, television contracts, the addition of Notre Dame, ECAC constantly having a losing record againts Hockey East in head to head matchups. No brainer! This is not opinion, it is fact. If RPI stays in the ECAC I will continue to root for them just as I do now but it would be a big mistake unless all involved are happy being in a second tier league.
 
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How do I figure HOCKEY EAST is much better than the ECAC. I don't know, lets start with yearly PWR's for the last 15 years, amount of teams in the NCAA tourney, amount of National Championships, television contracts, the addition of Notre Dame, ECAC constantly having a losing record againts Hockey East in head to head matchups. No brainer! This is not opinion, it is fact. If RPI stays in the ECAC I will continue to root for them just as I do now but it would be a big mistake unless all involved are happy being in a second tier league.

Concur.
 
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Correct. I actually played youth hockey against him for years, he played for Saratoga, I played for Troy.

I seem to recall that he played for Shen as a freshman before moving off to prep school.


Oopps - hadn't gotten to Still Crazy's post before I submitted...
 
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I seem to recall that he played for Shen as a freshman before moving off to prep school.


Oopps - hadn't gotten to Still Crazy's post before I submitted...

He played youth hockey for Saratoga Youth Hockey prior to high school or prep.. Mite, Squirt, probably pee wee as well. I remember playing against him in a freezing cold rink off Exit 15 that was pretty much open air.
 
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How do I figure HOCKEY EAST is much better than the ECAC. I don't know, lets start with yearly PWR's for the last 15 years, amount of teams in the NCAA tourney, amount of National Championships, television contracts, the addition of Notre Dame, ECAC constantly having a losing record againts Hockey East in head to head matchups. No brainer! This is not opinion, it is fact. If RPI stays in the ECAC I will continue to root for them just as I do now but it would be a big mistake unless all involved are happy being in a second tier league.

OK, now take out BC and BU and what do you have?
The TV contract is nice, and the addition of Notre Dame might help. But that MIGHT make it a three team league, or maybe not. Again, this is just an opinion.
If RPI does go to Hockey East, I will still be an Engineer Hockey Fan. That will never change.
 
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We seem to be getting back into the argument of whether we should stay in the ECAC or move to HE. No question HE is the conference with the more nationally prominent teams and by far the stronger conference. The question though to ask-is the ECAC going to remain a stable conference or will it be suddenly in jeopardy of severe change by something like the sudden loss of the Ivies to their own conference? I am not happy being in the lower tier of either conference which seems to be where would be in either case right now. Personally I could care less which conference we are in as long as the conference is viable for the long term and we can improve our standing so that we are competing for the conference championship every year. Given the current state of affairs in college athletics-I am not sure anyone can predict what will happen to any conference in the future.
 
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