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RPI 2011 - 12 Part IV: We ain't Bailen on this season yet, Go Red!!

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I disagree Beman, Seth has had his talent up and leave before their 4 years were up. I an wondering if those were lucky hits on the recruiting trail.

On another note, HTH does Union get the Fenway game at Harvard, and we're schlepping between beanpot games?
 
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ServinisScores said:
I disagree Beman, Seth has had his talent up and leave before their 4 years were up. I an wondering if those were lucky hits on the recruiting trail.

On another note, HTH does Union get the Fenway game at Harvard, and we're schlepping between beanpot games?
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Earlier post.... Monty left recruits left... Hasn't been able to get a a Pirri JA or York since

Had 3 legit pros and couldn't get out of his own way
 
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Sorry about the way your season has gone folks. A little story for you, I am lucky to have good parking at Ingalls and when we heard the Yale / Russia game would be delayed we decided to do have a pre-game beer or two in the lot next to the rink. We were there for about a half an hour and a gent in an ECAC coat walked up and I asked "how long to game time?" and he looked annoyed and stated they were warming up. About ten minutes later we were going into the rink and i noticed that the gent I had spoken to had left the lights on in his car, I figured he was an official and made my way to the visiting side press box, I found my guy conversing in said booth and entered. I interrupted his conversation and told him of the lights on situation. He looked at me and walked out of the booth without so much as a thank you. I asked one of my nearby season ticket holders who used to play AHL Hockey who the guy was and he states, "thats Paul Stewart, Head of Officials." Now I know why he is so unliked by the RPI faithful here.
 
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Beman said:
Earlier post.... Monty left recruits left... Hasn't been able to get a a Pirri JA or York since

Had 3 legit pros and couldn't get out of his own way
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You really are detestable. Took a 7-2 game for you to really say what was on your mind, eh?

What a hero.
 
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Not really been sayin it all along you should know you been hangin on my every word
 
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Beman said:
Not really been sayin it all along you should know you been hangin on my every word
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Oh and now it's about me all of a sudden.

You haven't been saying it all along. You hint it but now your true colors shine through. Answer AspyDad's question. NCAAs last season, dip****.
 
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Answered it already they backed in won some games early looked terrrible at the end of the season seth's m.o.
Believe I am as sorry as anyone about the team. I don't like Seth and his bull Shut up and win
 
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Beman said:
Answered it already they backed in won some games early looked terrrible at the end of the season seth's m.o.
Believe I am as sorry as anyone about the team. I don't like Seth and his bull Shut up and win
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You aren't sorry. If you cared, you'd be here when the team is successful. You're not. You're nothing but a sorry piece of trash who is obscuring the real issues. You aren't a true fan. Just one of the people too stuck in the past - or maybe just with his head stuck up his *** - to understand the future.

There are some legitimate questions that can be asked about the team. I've asked some of them myself. But if you want to come in here and use a broad brush to try and paint a false picture, you aren't.
 
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Red Cloud said:
You aren't sorry. If you cared, you'd be here when the team is successful. You're not. You're nothing but a sorry piece of trash who is obscuring the real issues. You aren't a true fan. Just one of the people too stuck in the past - or maybe just with his head stuck up his *** - to understand the future.

There are some legitimate questions that can be asked about the team. I've asked some of them myself. But if you want to come in here and use a broad brush to try and paint a false picture, you aren't.
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I haven't been on this site long enough. When was the last time they were successful? You are delusional. Broad brush? I speak the truth. If a true fan eats $h*t and says it taste good well you are right.
 
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Sooo...first game since the new thread came up and we already ate 7...can we stop with the player-oriented titles?
 
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DrDemento said:
I have 48 years and indeed find this year very trying. We may not have won many games earlier this season-but we were close and the defense had been quite good. Perhaps this is just another season in which every other team progresses and improves and we do not? That seems to be the routine for the past many years-usually off to a fast successful start and then faltering as the season moves on. This year perhaps we started more slowly, and only now are faltering further? I just do not bleieve that this team doesn't have the talent to win more games than they have. I lived through the debacle of 1965-1966 and although the team records seem comparable and the lack of scoring similar-there is just so much more to be expected from this team than what we had back then. Just now hoping to salvage one win this week and move on-Go Red!
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I covered the team for the Poly during the forgettable 1981-1982 season (9-18-2) and even though they were woefully outgunned, there was a sense that things were going to get better. We had just enrolled our first scholarship class that included the senior heart of the '85 team's defense (Friday, Hammond and Langevin) and heard stories about some of the great talent that was coming in the following year. I remember being in the lobby of the team hotel near Northeastern while the coaches were sitting with a young kid talking and reviewing some papers. I asked who it was and was told, "That's John Carter. He's one of the top recruits in Mass and he's coming on a scholarship. Just wait until you see him play." There were also rumors of some top notch recruits coming from Ontario. As we all know, that '82 entering class was one of the greatest in the history of college hockey.

I had a similar sense about this coaching staff in recent years, but with a couple of key exceptions. While the talent level seemed to be improving (albeit nothing like that '82 class), the team hasn't displayed the discipline and consistency that Mike demanded of his players. While I'm not sure he could get away with his drill sergeant/highly regimented approach (Mike was a football player) today, he would not have accepted the poorly timed penalties and breakdowns that have haunted this team. I want to keep my "I believe in Seth Appert" poster, but my fear is that we may have the Steve Lavin of college hockey - a guy who looks/sounds good and can recruit well but is dependent on others (JFK, CP, Monty, ?) to provide the leadership and structure for success. When those people aren't around or performing well the team too often seems rudderless.

Hopefully the team will bring me in from the ledge with a solid two-way performance against Army that leads to a much stronger second half. Then I'll gladly take the abuse I deserve for having been weak of faith. Please boys, make me look bad.
 
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Red Cloud said:
Please, don't. Just... don't.
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Don't what? Hope RPI succeeds? Of all the teams in this league I am actually cheering your program to success because when I visited your arena last year I actually saw a community of hockey fans who made the Freak Out into a great family event ( sans the stupid chants). Take the cynicism that you so deftly wield and try to find a measure of compassion and tact, it is the only thing you lack in your very talented mind.
 
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DrDemento said:
I have 48 years and indeed find this year very trying. We may not have won many games earlier this season-but we were close and the defense had been quite good. Perhaps this is just another season in which every other team progresses and improves and we do not? That seems to be the routine for the past many years-usually off to a fast successful start and then faltering as the season moves on. This year perhaps we started more slowly, and only now are faltering further? I just do not bleieve that this team doesn't have the talent to win more games than they have. I lived through the debacle of 1965-1966 and although the team records seem comparable and the lack of scoring similar-there is just so much more to be expected from this team than what we had back then. Just now hoping to salvage one win this week and move on-Go Red!
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Back in 65-66, of course, freshmen weren't eligible. I wonder how the two teams' records would compare if either this year's freshmen weren't eligible, or that year's were. The talent distribution between the four classes seems similar to me.
 
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Beman said:
I haven't been on this site long enough. When was the last time they were successful?
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They made the NCAA tournament last year, numbnuts. You choose to gloss over that because it doesn't fit your pitiful agenda. DIAF.
 
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Ralph Baer said:
Back in 65-66, of course, freshmen weren't eligible. I wonder how the two teams' records would compare if either this year's freshmen weren't eligible, or that year's were. The talent distribution between the four classes seems similar to me.
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Interesting point. There are some intriguing comparisons between these two squads. The difference for me is that back in 65-66 I never felt we were in any games, or had any chance to win starting with game one of the season (not including the preseason warm up game). This year, this team teased me with playing well and competitively for the first few games. I actually thought my early prediction of about 16-18 wins for the year would be accurate (just a little fall off from the total for last year). But after 17 games there has been a regression on all fronts-especially defensively and even goaltending. I find it very odd that young men all pretty much in their early 20's start the season and just regress. I am not a smart enough hockey person to understand how that happens. The interesting thing, which has been pointed out already, is that this seems to be the routine every year for quite some time now. It is almost like we just do not develop our players. In many programs freshmen come in, perform OK, but improve as the season goes on and certainly improve in the next few years. That just does not seem to be the case in Troy. Talent comes in-but just never seems to get much better (there of course have been a few exceptions like Polacek). And no, i did not forget that Pirri and D'Amigo left way early-but that does not explain the rest of the players for the past many years. Just my 2¢
 
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Beman said:
They were miserable in feb and march... they backed in come on. His record proves that he can't coach. Look at the engineers at the end of the season each year he has been there. The mark of a good coach is that his teams get better at the end of the season not worse! Enjoy the kool aid
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You do realize that "backed in" implies that they had to do pretty **** well earlier in the season to even be in a position to make playoffs, right? I can't be sure, but I think Appert was coaching during that entire time....and Pirri and D'Amigo had already bolted.

This season sucks...the upperclassmen have not shown the leadership they needed to, and too much is being expected of the incoming class. It's a major test for Appert, and we are seeing him struggle with a difficult situation...but grow up, seriously. Bad seasons happen, and I refuse to cast down judgement on Appert until I see consistent bad seasons. This is his first head coaching gig, and there are going to be growing pains.
 
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DrDemento said:
Interesting point. There are some intriguing comparisons between these two squads. The difference for me is that back in 65-66 I never felt we were in any games, or had any chance to win starting with game one of the season (not including the preseason warm up game). This year, this team teased me with playing well and competitively for the first few games. I actually thought my early prediction of about 16-18 wins for the year would be accurate (just a little fall off from the total for last year). But after 17 games there has been a regression on all fronts-especially defensively and even goaltending. I find it very odd that young men all pretty much in their early 20's start the season and just regress. I am not a smart enough hockey person to understand how that happens. The interesting thing, which has been pointed out already, is that this seems to be the routine every year for quite some time now. It is almost like we just do not develop our players. In many programs freshmen come in, perform OK, but improve as the season goes on and certainly improve in the next few years. That just does not seem to be the case in Troy. Talent comes in-but just never seems to get much better (there of course have been a few exceptions like Polacek). And no, i did not forget that Pirri and D'Amigo left way early-but that does not explain the rest of the players for the past many years. Just my 2¢
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On offense, Schroeder and Laliberte appear to be playing better than at the start of the season, probably also McGowen. Haggerty has played quite consistantly, and Neal hasn't played enough to say. Can't comment on the Ds and Diebold except to say that Curadi is getting more ice time. So they have been getting better.
 
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