RPI 2009 - 2010 Part II: I Believe in Seth Appert

[DrDemento]

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Although there are definite benefits to having more experience at both ends of the rink, I was actually thinking more of defensive growing pains than offensive ones. A young guy can make a mistake on offense and make up for it the next trip down the ice. Not so on defense. It takes time to build a cohesive defensive system (including committed two-way forwards) and physical maturity to win battles in front of the net or along the boards.

Agreed-so far this year between goaltending and defense we are holding opponents down to managable levels of scoring. We are in virtually every game because they are only scoring 2 or 3 against us. The UMass game I consider an aberration as the refs kept us down to 3 men on the ice enough times for the score to mount. The only negative to come out of the SLU game was not the score but the way that we were just outshot and out played after the first period. Let's give Joe Marsh a lot of credit-he has done this to us before by making some adjustment in the first intermission. As we continue to improve we will need to be able to counter these adjustments in order to win.

 

[Red Cloud]

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Throw in the fact that Polacek is in line to get boned out of POTW for a third week straight, and it's pretty much official.

Not even a nomination. No nomination for Allen York either who also had a big weekend.

Do not doubt me. The sleep is still on.

 

[Ralph Baer]

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Not even a nomination. No nomination for Allen York either who also had a big weekend.

Do not doubt me. The sleep is still on.

Aren't the nominations of players by their own teams' coaches?

 

[Red Cloud]

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Aren't the nominations of players by their own teams' coaches?

The way I understood it, it's just a plain vote.

 

[FlagDUDE08]

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Not even a nomination. No nomination for Allen York either who also had a big weekend.

Do not doubt me. The sleep is still on.

I'm not surprised he didn't get Player of the Week. If there were a Player of the Month award, I would be VERY surprised if he didn't win that. Yes, Chase got only one goal each game. However, he's done that for the past 6 games, and 7 out of the past 8. He's consistent.

It's sort of like how in football, you could get a running back that will sweep 30 yards every once in a while. Or, you could get the running back that consistently gets 4 yards every play. It continues to drive you down the field. Honestly, forget hat tricks and showing off. I'd rather see Chase be able to get at least one goal every game. We have other people that can put the puck in the net; he doesn't have to do all the work. So what if we've had only one or two 10-goal scorers in our past few seasons? Let's continue to put the puck in the net and show our depth. That's more important. It's easy to cover one player or line. It's tough to cover twelve forwards.

 

[Ralph Baer]

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The way I understood it, it's just a plain vote.

I agree with that, but I thought that each team nominates their own players. Then again, it is so longer ago that I recall reading that, the process has probably changed several times.

 

[FlagDUDE08]

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Nitro gets 3 PotW's, and York has gotten nothing. What's up with that?!

 

[fr joe]

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Not even a nomination. No nomination for Allen York either who also had a big weekend.

Do not doubt me. The sleep is still on.

I'd rather be noticed in March than November... go ahead, let them doze. Don't stir them.

 

[Wicked Slappaahs]

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Jensen actually didn't do too badly. The other defensemen were a bit sloppy on their passes, which led to unproductive power plays (minus 1 of course), many icing calls, and quite a few turnovers, even in our own end. Granted I was sitting on the end line where we shot twice, but that's about how the game went.

What Burgie does well is hit players, and the one time each month he has bollocks enough to put a shot on net, is quite accurate and either gets a one-timer, or a decent rebound opportunity. Out of position I'll definitely agree with you on. Like I said earlier, the PPG found the SLU center in front of the net wide open. And even one time before that, though we prevented the pass. It also happened on Yale's PPG, the guy right near the net (he was weak side) was wide open.

Of course losses are going to happen; we're not the 1970 Cornell team. We put it behind us, the coaches and players take time to review the tape and learn from mistakes made, and then have a few good practices to help the players, should they find themselves in the situation again, to not let history repeat itself. I'm absolutely fine with us taking two points in the North Country. Like I said to the friends I brought along to the game, it's a heck of a lot better than zero points on the weekend.

I'm happy with most of our play-style this year, and last night was an off night. We'll pick it up come Niagara.

Burger was on the ice for one of the goals because he was on the PK...Incuding Brutlag's interference which came about ten seconds after RPI had finished killing Foss' penalty.

Speaking of which, FlagDude: What did you think of the call on Brutlag? The reason I ask is not to delve into any kind of 'we got screwed" diatribe, but because of what T-Bone told me. He was driving into deer camp and was listening to the game from on SLU radio. He said the SLU radio announcers used the word "terrible" when describing the call on Brut saying it was a "clean play", and they also questioned " What was Brutlag supposed to do?"

I haven't read anyone else commenting on it, just wondering what you thought. In any event, credit SLU radio for calling like they see it.

 

[Wicked Slappaahs]

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I'd rather be noticed in March than November... go ahead, let them doze. Don't stir them.

Amen, Padre! Hope the big man's is listening...

 

[Wicked Slappaahs]

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The other take away from the SLU game was the RPI radio braodcast repeatedly praising RPI's defence for slowing down the puck handler as they gained the zone -- not allowing them free passage along the boards. This has been one of my concerns, and am glad to hear they are working on it. It would appear that Coach Vines is hard at work.

 

[FlagDUDE08]

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Burger was on the ice for one of the goals because he was on the PK...Incuding Brutlag's interference which came about ten seconds after RPI had finished killing Foss' penalty.

Speaking of which, FlagDude: What did you think of the call on Brutlag? The reason I ask is not to delve into any kind of 'we got screwed" diatribe, but because of what T-Bone told me. He was driving into deer camp and was listening to the game from on SLU radio. He said the SLU radio announcers used the word "terrible" when describing the call on Brut saying it was a "clean play", and they also questioned " What was Brutlag supposed to do?"

I haven't read anyone else commenting on it, just wondering what you thought. In any event, credit SLU radio for calling like they see it.

Unfortunately I don't remember the Brutlag penalty. If it was in the 3rd, I probably didn't get a good look at it, since I was on our shoot-twice end line.

 

[DrDemento]

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The other take away from the SLU game was the RPI radio braodcast repeatedly praising RPI's defence for slowing down the puck handler as they gained the zone -- not allowing them free passage along the boards. This has been one of my concerns, and am glad to hear they are working on it. It would appear that Coach Vines is hard at work.

Treading a fine line-the refs have been making it a practice to call interference frequently when we slow down the puck handler entering the zone-admittedly some of these calls are by reputation and not deserved. I think the message being sent to our D-men has got to be a bit confusing-they know they have to do it but there is a real sense that a penalty might be called. From the games I have seen I just don't understand what the defensemen can get away with since the calls are just not consistent.

 

[Wicked Slappaahs]

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The other take away from the SLU game was the RPI radio braodcast repeatedly praising RPI's defence for slowing down the puck handler as they gained the zone -- not allowing them free passage along the boards. This has been one of my concerns, and am glad to hear they are working on it. It would appear that Coach Vines is hard at work.

 

[Wicked Slappaahs]

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Treading a fine line-the refs have been making it a practice to call interference frequently when we slow down the puck handler entering the zone-admittedly some of these calls are by reputation and not deserved. I think the message being sent to our D-men has got to be a bit confusing-they know they have to do it but there is a real sense that a penalty might be called. From the games I have seen I just don't understand what the defensemen can get away with since the calls are just not consistent.

I just find it curious that the SLU guys thought the Brut call was a bad call, but not a peep out of WRPI 's broadcast about it. Although not having a color man in the booth makes for a lot of work for one person.

 

[GRussinko]

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Burger was on the ice for one of the goals because he was on the PK...Incuding Brutlag's interference which came about ten seconds after RPI had finished killing Foss' penalty.

Speaking of which, FlagDude: What did you think of the call on Brutlag? The reason I ask is not to delve into any kind of 'we got screwed" diatribe, but because of what T-Bone told me. He was driving into deer camp and was listening to the game from on SLU radio. He said the SLU radio announcers used the word "terrible" when describing the call on Brut saying it was a "clean play", and they also questioned " What was Brutlag supposed to do?"

I haven't read anyone else commenting on it, just wondering what you thought. In any event, credit SLU radio for calling like they see it.

Not addressed to me, but I'll throw in my 2 cents. As I recall, it was when SLU was trying to break in to our zone, carrying the puck down the near side right in front of my seats. Brutlag went to stand him up at the blue line but the SLU skater dumped the puck before he got to Brutlag. When Bryan leveled the guy as he skated into him the ref's arm went up and he called interference.

DrD's more recent message hit the nail on the head regarding what's being called interference. There's absolutely no consistency between refs or even between calls by the same ref. I'll admit the Brutlag penalty could have gone either way - but the fact that the exact same play had gone unpenalized multiple times already in the same game, made it a garbage call to put us down a man on immediately after killing a penalty already.

 

[Wicked Slappaahs]

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Niagara is a home game (Grand Island) for Mark Zarbo...anyone think that Appert will put him in he lineup? If I go to the game, is it OK for me to heckle his parents for not sending their younger sons to RPI?

 

[Wicked Slappaahs]

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Not addressed to me, but I'll throw in my 2 cents. As I recall, it was when SLU was trying to break in to our zone, carrying the puck down the near side right in front of my seats. Brutlag went to stand him up at the blue line but the SLU skater dumped the puck before he got to Brutlag. When Bryan leveled the guy as he skated into him the ref's arm went up and he called interference.

DrD's more recent message hit the nail on the head regarding what's being called interference. There's absolutely no consistency between refs or even between calls by the same ref. I'll admit the Brutlag penalty could have gone either way - but the fact that the exact same play had gone unpenalized multiple times already in the same game, made it a garbage call to put us down a man on immediately after killing a penalty already.

Thanks for the recap GRuss...much appreciated.

The consistent inconsistency in the ECAC is maddening. Which makes Stewart's inaugural statement that "...we're going to call the games like we'd want them called if we were playing..." ring all the more hollow.

 

[rpi82]

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Not addressed to me, but I'll throw in my 2 cents. As I recall, it was when SLU was trying to break in to our zone, carrying the puck down the near side right in front of my seats. Brutlag went to stand him up at the blue line but the SLU skater dumped the puck before he got to Brutlag. When Bryan leveled the guy as he skated into him the ref's arm went up and he called interference.

DrD's more recent message hit the nail on the head regarding what's being called interference. There's absolutely no consistency between refs or even between calls by the same ref. I'll admit the Brutlag penalty could have gone either way - but the fact that the exact same play had gone unpenalized multiple times already in the same game, made it a garbage call to put us down a man on immediately after killing a penalty already.

That was precisely the type of play and call that baffled me during the Army game. We're not talking about the traditional call when a defender ties up a forward looking to take a pass. This was a case of the forward trying to play the puck forward past a well-positioned defender and getting stood up at the blue line. It seems as if defensemen can't complete a play without being called for interference. That's ridiculous.

 

[FlagDUDE08]

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That was precisely the type of play and call that baffled me during the Army game. We're not talking about the traditional call when a defender ties up a forward looking to take a pass. This was a case of the forward trying to play the puck forward past a well-positioned defender and getting stood up at the blue line. It seems as if defensemen can't complete a play without being called for interference. That's ridiculous.

They're allowed to complete the play if their jersey is not cherry, white, and contains on the front in no particular order R, P, and I.

Thanks for covering that, GRuss... no wonder I couldn't see it if it was right in front of your area.