RPI 2009 - 2010 Part II: I Believe in Seth Appert

[joecct]

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On some nights we look like the coaches' pick was dead on, on others, we look like a 5th - 8th place team.

The effort is there, but we can't score on the Power(less) play, and dumb penalties kill us. With all that, I would not be surprised with a weekend sweep - either way.

 

[Wicked Slappaahs]

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Seth is right, our depth is where we want it to be this year and it will be even better next year.

I mean, is anyone overly concerned about having Scott Halpern, Justin Smith, and Jordan Watts step in for these three? I'm really not. I mean, there's certainly a difference, but it's not like these guys are hacks.

I believe I neglected to mention it here, but kudos to Scott Halpern for an outstanding weekend...and not just on the scoresheet. He skated with tons of energy and finished his checks. As I told my neighbors, he skated like a kid who wants more ice time.

Also, my thoughts on Justin Smith's early season play are documented here...love the kid. Suffice it to say he's been a great physical force - with Doc D size - on the ice. I'm excited to see Watts get some time, as he showed glimmers of real burst and energy last year -- not unlike Polacek in style. He did take a few dumb penalties, but that happens with younger players...I'm sure he'll clean that up.

 

[GRussinko]

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That's what I meant to say after burgie wrote "one from Iona".

I assume that the rule not requiring students to sit out a year of the program is dropped in the their former school is indeed written in the rule book. The rule book is on the NCAA website somewhere (probably NCAA.org, not NCAA.com).

The NCAA has a 33 page guide on transferring which details all the rules, regulations, and exceptions. One exception to the rule requiring transfers to sit out a year is if your sport is discontinued at the school you're transferring from. You must transfer after it is announced the program will be discontinued. It's on page 21 at the following link:

http://www.ncaapublications.com/Upl..._8_25b1639c13-89b2-4176-a1c2-346f5ab746df.pdf

 

[miker]

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Ah, so. Did not think that either north team had only fair weather fans. But then again it has usually been fair weather up there most of the time so hard to tell.

Didn't mean to imply fair weather. Just cautiously anticipating what will happen this week-end. RPI is significantly improved talent wise, and should be a renewed challenge. Seems the ECAC is getting tougher each year with very few easy week-ends. Small improvements in "your team" may not be enough for the next year..

As far as this Knight fan goes - I'm still trying to figure out where this team is headed and what can be fixed? Seem to have the talent, just "same ol same ol" with dumb penalties, lack of timely scoring, and poor defensive decision making.

 

[burgie12]

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One exception to the rule requiring transfers to sit out a year is if your sport is discontinued at the school you're transferring from. You must transfer after it is announced the program will be discontinued.

Thanks. I figured some RPI fans would have the specifics (and a link to back it up).

 

[Red Cloud]

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It's not like that in every sport, though. Football, yes. Men's and women's basketball, yes. Women's hockey, no, unless you transfer between teams in the WCHA, where it's a league rule.

PS: This.

 

[Section 22]

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If everyone shows that will be our most depth in memory up front. Some years with injuries it seems like we dont ever have enough defensemen though. If Lee and Rabbani are both out we may feel it a bit if these are banging games...

Don't forget, Vassel is versatile and can also play D. If needed Appert could always move him back and take someone off the bench to play forward.

 

[Ralph Baer]

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It's not like that in every sport, though. Football, yes. Men's and women's basketball, yes. Women's hockey, no, unless you transfer between teams in the WCHA, where it's a league rule.

PS: This.

Nice writeup.

 

[DrDemento]

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Don't forget, Vassel is versatile and can also play D. If needed Appert could always move him back and take someone off the bench to play forward.

Yes but our defense has finally started to play well as a group-last weekend being the case in point. I would hate to see any major changes at this time. I like Vassel up front-but then again I like bigger forwards to go along with our skilled players.

 

[Jasma]

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I have read/heard both York and Polacek quoted in papers and also in press conferences and they seem like humble guys. Their performances speak for themselves and the team wins are what these guys care about. Go Red!

Agreed, but we are talking about two different issues. Wins are why the teams play.
Awards, recognition, etc. are important to the players and they also help raise the visibility of the program. It is also about the bad decisions made in the ECAC Office.

 

[Wicked Slappaahs]

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...It is also about the bad decisions made in the ECAC Office.

Ooof. Don't go there, that is a thread topic all by itself.

 

[FlagDUDE08]

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Agreed, but we are talking about two different issues. Wins are why the teams play.
Awards, recognition, etc. are important to the players and they also help raise the visibility of the program. It is also about the bad decisions made in the ECAC Office.

Like Burgdoerfer's suspension for a dive? =P

I don't think they only play to win, though. Winning is nice, yes, but it's also about the experience. Also in the ECAC, it's about getting a first class education.

 

[The Comeback Kid]

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According to the Record, Helfrich is out this weekend. Most likely. Well almost definitely. Of course you never know.

Sounds like the ankle is better. Sometimes. Other times it is worse....

http://www.troyrecord.com/articles/2009/11/12/sports/doc4afb9ee3291cd675861001.txt

I think we could get just a good an idea of Tyler's health by asking a magic 8 ball 5 or 6 different times.

Sounds to me like they're babying it. That's a nice luxury to have. It says a lot about the depth of the squad and the confidence that the coaches have in it when their leading scorer can nurse an injury back to 100%. Really though, if his ankle feels great in all situations and they're just worried about it being jarred, they're close to becoming overcautious. I mean, short of lining up and taking shots right at the ankle, there's no way of telling how it'll react.

I'm sure they're making the right call though. Friday and Saturday aren't "must win" games. Plus, he'll be able to ease into things better with a single game weekend at Niagara next week.

 

[TBone]

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Bob McKenzie was on the North Country Public Radio this morning plugging his new book. He had some very nice things to say about RPI; mentioning the job Appert is doing, as well as the contributions of Pirri and D'Amigo.

 

[Ralph Baer]

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Bob McKenzie was on the North Country Public Radio this morning plugging his new book. He had some very nice things to say about RPI; mentioning the job Appert is doing, as well as the contributions of Pirri and D'Amigo.

He was also on Ken Schott's radio segment today. It can be listened to here http://www.foxsports980.com/cc-common/podcast.html

 

[DrDemento]

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Sounds to me like they're babying it. That's a nice luxury to have. It says a lot about the depth of the squad and the confidence that the coaches have in it when their leading scorer can nurse an injury back to 100%. Really though, if his ankle feels great in all situations and they're just worried about it being jarred, they're close to becoming overcautious. I mean, short of lining up and taking shots right at the ankle, there's no way of telling how it'll react.

I'm sure they're making the right call though. Friday and Saturday aren't "must win" games. Plus, he'll be able to ease into things better with a single game weekend at Niagara next week.

As I have mentioned-I am very conservative when treating ankle injuries. I think rest is most important and am certainly for keeping him out of the lineup if there is any question of his total fitness. I do worry however that this injury may be more serious and nagging than first thought. I cant help but think that SA would want Helfrich in the line up for the North Country if he was at all able to play at full strength. The Niagara game comes up rather quickly and is a mid week game-not much extra time to rest. I would think if he is out for this weekend, he is out for that game also.

 

[knsmith]

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As I have mentioned-I am very conservative when treating ankle injuries. I think rest is most important and am certainly for keeping him out of the lineup if there is any question of his total fitness. I do worry however that this injury may be more serious and nagging than first thought. I cant help but think that SA would want Helfrich in the line up for the North Country if he was at all able to play at full strength. The Niagara game comes up rather quickly and is a mid week game-not much extra time to rest. I would think if he is out for this weekend, he is out for that game also.

I'm not too worried about it, given what he said in the interview before last weekend... "if it was an NCAA tournament game, he'd play".

I agree it seems liek it is nagging, but I don't think we can assume that it is necessarily more "serious" than first thought (if there is really a difference between nagging and serious).

My guess is that Appert is looking at this as, if he just sits these next 2 games, I can get him three more full weeks of rest before we play meaningful hockey. I think the last thing SA wants to happen to is to send TH at anything less than 100%, have his condition deteriorate, and then be potentially dealing with a bad ankle for 4 games in an 8 day stretch - probably the most important such stretch all year - heading into winter break.

 

[knsmith]

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I'm not too worried about it, given what he said in the interview before last weekend... "if it was an NCAA tournament game, he'd play".

I agree it seems liek it is nagging, but I don't think we can assume that it is necessarily more "serious" than first thought (if there is really a difference between nagging and serious).

My guess is that Appert is looking at this as, if he just sits these next 2 games, I can get him three more full weeks of rest before we play meaningful hockey. I think the last thing SA wants to happen to is to send TH at anything less than 100%, have his condition deteriorate, and then be potentially dealing with a bad ankle for 4 games in an 8 day stretch - probably the most important such stretch all year - heading into winter break.

On second thought, this could cut completely the other way - it doesn't matter if he gets set back a little bit this weekend, as he'll have plenty of time to recover before we play any more meaningful hockey. Who knows...

 

[Wicked Slappaahs]

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Bob McKenzie was on the North Country Public Radio this morning plugging his new book...

Where was Doug?

 

[DrDemento]

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I'm not too worried about it, given what he said in the interview before last weekend... "if it was an NCAA tournament game, he'd play".

I agree it seems liek it is nagging, but I don't think we can assume that it is necessarily more "serious" than first thought (if there is really a difference between nagging and serious).

My guess is that Appert is looking at this as, if he just sits these next 2 games, I can get him three more full weeks of rest before we play meaningful hockey. I think the last thing SA wants to happen to is to send TH at anything less than 100%, have his condition deteriorate, and then be potentially dealing with a bad ankle for 4 games in an 8 day stretch - probably the most important such stretch all year - heading into winter break.

Agreed-My experience with mild ankle injuries is that they take about 6 weeks to heal if you treat them and 42 days to heal if you just rest them