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RPI 2009-10 Part IV: The Boys are Back in Town

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Off-topic response here, but I'm curious. The tie-breaking procedures say that head-to-head is the first criteria. Is that just ECAC contests, or all games between the teams? Does anyone know?

It's ECAC games, and then all matches, and then I think goal differential between teams??
 
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It's ECAC games, and then all matches, and then I think goal differential between teams??

Are you saying that the two non-league games vs. Union can count in someway for the ECAC standings? I never heard that.
 
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http://www.ecachockey.com/men/tournament/ChampTieBreaking

ALBANY, N.Y. -- Following are the ECAC Men's Hockey Championship policies pertaining to seeding and tie-breaking procedures.

Seeding for championship competition is based on total points accumulated during league contests. In the event teams are tied in the final regular-season standings, the following tiebreakers (listed in order of application) shall be used to determine seeding:

Comparison of game results between tied teams (head to head).
Wins (League).
Comparison of results of games against the top four teams.
Comparison of results of games against the top eight teams.
Goal differential in head-to-head competition.
Goal differential in games against the top four teams.
Goal differential in games against the top eight teams.
In the case of ties among three or more schools, the criteria will be used in order until a team, or teams, is separated from the pack. At that point, the process will begin anew to break the "new" tie. In other words, when a four-way tie becomes a three-way tie, the three-way tie is treated as a "new" tie and the process begins with the first criterion.
 
Re: RPI 2009-10 Part IV: The Boys are Back in Town

It's ECAC games, and then all matches, and then I think goal differential between teams??

ECAC Hockey Tie Breaking Procedures said:
Comparison of game results between tied teams (head to head).
Wins (League).
Comparison of results of games against the top four teams.
Comparison of results of games against the top eight teams.
Goal differential in head-to-head competition.
Goal differential in games against the top four teams.
Goal differential in games against the top eight teams.

There seems to be some confusion. It makes sense that only ECAC games should count. Just wanted to confirm.
 
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I missed three very important words: "during league contests". I am no longer confused. Thank you Ralph and FlagDUDE.
 
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Oh, and I still plan to be selective about starting threads, even if I am 4-0 (and even if one was a women's game and one was Sacred Heart).
 
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Hey RC - sorry that you had to waste that cat food! ;)

We're not there yet; we're still tied for 5th, and 3 points away from top 4. Still some work left, and we do play 3 teams "ahead" of us (I'm counting Colgate to be ahead because of game differential).
 
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I would start a game thread but I go to sleep unlike the rest of you who just rest your eyes :D
 
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I just got back from arguably the most complete game I've seen an RPI team play in years. With the exception of the last 10 minutes of the second period they were completely in control and outplayed Yale in all phases of the game - and even during that stretch they outscored the Bulldogs on Polacek's goal. I expected a split this weekend, but not in this manner.

Now if they can just establish some consistency..............
 
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I just got back from arguably the most complete game I've seen an RPI team play in years. With the exception of the last 10 minutes of the second period they were completely in control and outplayed Yale in all phases of the game - and even during that stretch they outscored the Bulldogs on Polacek's goal. I expected a split this weekend, but not in this manner.

Now if they can just establish some consistency..............

I agree that tonight was special...the boys played relaxed and confidently. The Yale players were frustrated early on. I think RPI surprised them by, not just sticking with Yale's speed but, stepping on the accelerator the whole time. PK superb. PP still a bit tentative in the shot department. Individually, the RPI boys were unbelievably aggressive. Yale has 2 big boys (25 & 28) who had NO impact on our boys. Arcobella (sp) and Backman were rendered ineffective. There were few mistakes and smiles on faces even when they were grinding. Met Redhead (great meeting you) and Hubster & I were impressed with the RPI fans...great night for RPI...Wicked, were you there?
 
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I agree that tonight was special...the boys played relaxed and confidently. The Yale players were frustrated early on. I think RPI surprised them by, not just sticking with Yale's speed but, stepping on the accelerator the whole time. PK superb. PP still a bit tentative in the shot department. Individually, the RPI boys were unbelievably aggressive. Yale has 2 big boys (25 & 28) who had NO impact on our boys. Arcobella (sp) and Backman were rendered ineffective. There were few mistakes and smiles on faces even when they were grinding. Met Redhead (great meeting you) and Hubster & I were impressed with the RPI fans...great night for RPI...Wicked, were you there?

I too was impressed with how the Engineers were able to not only deal with Yale's speed but actually turn it into an advantage. I've seen a fair number of games at the Whale involving RPI and other teams and it is easy to get passive or back on your heels against the Bulldogs out of respect for the speed and skill of Arcobello, Backman, Little and others. In this game the boys were confident stepping up into the play, largely because of unusually solid positional play as there was always someone else sliding into position to cover. Solid team defense enables aggressive plays on offense.

As for the PP, Yale is good at cutting off shooting lanes and pressuring the points. They seemed well versed in the Engineer's tendency to slide Polacek down from the point to the half-wing boards and prevented good shots from the outside. The solution to that is to get the puck down low and that eventually led to PP goals from in tight by Polacek (technically just after the PP expired) and Pirri.
 
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Congratulations to Chase Polacek on becoming the 60th member of the 100-point club.
 
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I agree that tonight was special...the boys played relaxed and confidently. The Yale players were frustrated early on. I think RPI surprised them by, not just sticking with Yale's speed but, stepping on the accelerator the whole time. PK superb. PP still a bit tentative in the shot department. Individually, the RPI boys were unbelievably aggressive. Yale has 2 big boys (25 & 28) who had NO impact on our boys. Arcobella (sp) and Backman were rendered ineffective. There were few mistakes and smiles on faces even when they were grinding. Met Redhead (great meeting you) and Hubster & I were impressed with the RPI fans...great night for RPI...Wicked, were you there?

When teams want to play that "step on the accelerator" type game against us (like Yale does, probably also Q-Pac and Princeton), we can drive them into the ground because that's our game. There's still some difficulties against the rough pinching clutch-and-grab teams (Cornell, Union, Brown), but it's something we can work on in practice.
 
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