RPI 2009-10 Part IV: The Boys are Back in Town

[fishcore12]

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Must have been a slow newsday at the Record for them to write an article about outdoor hockey in Troy. Eh whatever, nice to dream I guess.

 

[jstadts]

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If Pirri plays tonight I think I will puke. Earlier this year Appert publicly humiliated angers-goulet with the "his game is as soft as puppy poop" remark. well coach have you been watching # 16. He plays no D, Doesn`t hustle,Is careless with the puck in the most dagerous area on the ice and takes stupid penalties and whines all night to the refs. I think it is high time to wake this prima dona up!!

 

[CornwallAce]

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Why did Ben Contini decide to go play at D3 Williams? (I probably missed the story, but I'm sure you all like telling it)

 

[Ralph Baer]

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Why did Ben Contini decide to go play at D3 Williams? (I probably missed the story, but I'm sure you all like telling it)

I don't think anything was ever written about it officially. He probably saw the handwriting on the wall. IIRC, he did not play at all in the latter part of last season. With the entering class this year, he would have even a harder time making the lineup.

 

[jstadts]

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Why did Ben Contini decide to go play at D3 Williams? (I probably missed the story, but I'm sure you all like telling it)

If there was a public statement on his departure I missed it.

 

[Wicked Slappaahs]

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If Pirri plays tonight I think I will puke. Earlier this year Appert publicly humiliated angers-goulet with the "his game is as soft as puppy poop" remark. well coach have you been watching # 16. He plays no D, Doesn`t hustle,Is careless with the puck in the most dagerous area on the ice and takes stupid penalties and whines all night to the refs. I think it is high time to wake this prima dona up!!

I didn't see the game but I'll leave to Seth to handle the line up.

If we're being punitive, then the defense has to be in the cross hairs as well --with at least 2 Brown tallies resulting from defensive misplays, or general sleepiness. WRPI said one goal came when Foss let a puck trickle through his legs, with a Brown guy burying the loose puck. If a kid the size of Foss hasn't yet figured out that he was given the genetic gift of size, then he needs to sit for a night, IMO. I've never seen a kid his size play as soft. Both he and Merth continuously fail to rule the red zone. Just as in the H debacle when the D failed to cover the back door after just having discussed it in the time out.

Appert said it best in Weaver's piece about the game having been lost in the 2nd period when RPI clearly let up in intensity.

 

[IMO]

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If Pirri plays tonight I think I will puke. Earlier this year Appert publicly humiliated angers-goulet with the "his game is as soft as puppy poop" remark. well coach have you been watching # 16. He plays no D, Doesn`t hustle,Is careless with the puck in the most dagerous area on the ice and takes stupid penalties and whines all night to the refs. I think it is high time to wake this prima dona up!!

I don't mean to sound like a broken record but the coach needs to find new ways to discipline this team without benching players. We need the top players on the ice each and every game. I agree he may need to address your issues but not by sitting him. Put the best players on the ice with the best line combinations and chemistry and play to win every night. No more side shows. I believe (I think we all do) this team has a shot to do something special this year.

 

[Ralph Baer]

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I don't expect Pirri to sit, but I think that the lines will be shuffled.

 

[jmhusker]

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I don't mean to sound like a broken record but the coach needs to find new ways to discipline this team without benching players. We need the top players on the ice each and every game. I agree he may need to address your issues but not by sitting him. Put the best players on the ice with the best line combinations and chemistry and play to win every night. No more side shows. I believe (I think we all do) this team has a shot to do something special this year.

I agree and it is easy. Take them off the PP until they are ready to play harder. Shorten their shifts. There are lots of ways to do it.

I don't blame the D for yesterday. Brown had maybe a half dozen good scoring chances (before the 5 on 3) all night.

 

[Wicked Slappaahs]

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I don't blame the D for yesterday. Brown had maybe a half dozen good scoring chances (before the 5 on 3) all night.

And they scored on three of them. 3-6 is a pretty solid average last time I looked.

From the Record:
"...Chris Zaires came around the net and the puck was sitting there, just inside the left circle — a clearing pass had slid under the stick of an RPI player — and Zaries turned and fired it over the goaltender Allen York at 3:56 of the period.

Three minutes later, the Bears' Jack MacClellan stick-handled around two Rensselaer defenders, moved in on York and beat him to the near side.

 

[Red Cloud]

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I don't blame the D for yesterday.

Uh...

 

[jmhusker]

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And they scored on three of them. 3-6 is a pretty solid average last time I looked.

From the Record:
"...Chris Zaires came around the net and the puck was sitting there, just inside the left circle — a clearing pass had slid under the stick of an RPI player — and Zaries turned and fired it over the goaltender Allen York at 3:56 of the period.

Three minutes later, the Bears' Jack MacClellan stick-handled around two Rensselaer defenders, moved in on York and beat him to the near side.

3/6 is a good average. It's hard to control the 3 as much as the 6. 6 chances is a good number. If it were 3 of 20 and York stood on his head would you feel the same way? I wouldn't.

The Zaires goal was the fault of Foss - I agree. MacClellan made a very nice move. That happens. D'Amigo made 2 that were just as good but he didn't score. Is that because the Brown D played great?

 

[Wicked Slappaahs]

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MacClellan made a very nice move. That happens. D'Amigo made 2 that were just as good but he didn't score. Is that because the Brown D played great?

IMO, anytime a kid attempts to skate thru/past two defenders and isn't left blowing snot bubbles thru an ear hole, it is a failure. Don't believe me? Watch Cornell sometime.

 

[jmhusker]

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IMO, anytime a kid attempts to skate thru/past two defenders and isn't left blowing snot bubbles thru an ear hole, it is a failure. Don't believe me? Watch Cornell sometime.

Absolutely what should and would have happened. ln this case he didn't skate through 2 at the same time. He beat one and then shifted to the middle to fire the puck past the 2nd one. If there were 2 of them on him at once he would have been flattened.

 

[Wicked Slappaahs]

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Absolutely what should and would have happened. ln this case he didn't skate through 2 at the same time. He beat one and then shifted to the middle to fire the puck past the 2nd one. If there were 2 of them on him at once he would have been flattened.

I'm still not letting them off the hook !

 

[GreatLakerMohawk]

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The descriptions of the defensive issues from last night are setting a bad pattern given how things ended up with the Harvard game.

Methinks Nick Bailen and Luke Curadi can't get here soon enough to "show how to get things done."

 

[fishcore12]

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I wonder if the way games are being called in the ECAC is making it harder on the defensemen to actually be that put your man on his butt type player? Im not trying to let our D off the hook but you have to wonder how much a player can just knock a man down without being called. I understand taking penalties in certain situations but it seems like the refs tend to take care of the offensive players a lot more and in a way handcuff a d-man from doing his job of clearing out the front of the net.

 

[Wicked Slappaahs]

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I wonder if the way games are being called in the ECAC is making it harder on the defensemen to actually be that put your man on his butt type player? Im not trying to let our D off the hook but you have to wonder how much a player can just knock a man down without being called. I understand taking penalties in certain situations but it seems like the refs tend to take care of the offensive players a lot more and in a way handcuff a d-man from doing his job of clearing out the front of the net.

That's a very valid point. In open ice the best thing to do is establish position stand the kid up or at least force the kid to change directions...hopefully get a piece of the puck. I suspect that RPI's blueliners were either standing still or late in reacting when the Brown kid used them as pilons.

Around the net in loose puck situations, guys need to get hit. Appert is never gonna complain about running a kid who is trying to stuff home some garbage...you have to send a message. He said as much after H's tying goal..."...something to the effect of our defenceman deciding to play goalie, instead of putting the guy on his butt..."

 

[burgie12]

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Off-topic response here, but I'm curious. The tie-breaking procedures say that head-to-head is the first criteria. Is that just ECAC contests, or all games between the teams? Does anyone know?

 

[Ralph Baer]

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Off-topic response here, but I'm curious. The tie-breaking procedures say that head-to-head is the first criteria. Is that just ECAC contests, or all games between the teams? Does anyone know?

It's just ECAC games.