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RIT vs MIDD Norwich vs GA
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Re: RIT vs MIDD Norwich vs GA
Where I was, it was the other way around by about 15 secs, and I couldn't get the video to pause. When I paused it instead of picking up where it left off, it jumped ahead those 15 secs. Yesterday, I paused WDEV and got the two pretty well synched.
What a great effort, beating the top scoring RIT team in their own barn. Congratulations to the NATIONAL CHAMPION NORWICH CADETS!.Special congratulations to the seniors who have been with the team for its entire history, going from newcomers as a varsity team to national champs in 4 seasons.
Unbelievable, but true!
I hope this pushes the men to repeat as national champs next weekend.
I also hope the video streaming is better next weekend. It was 2-3 minutes behind the whole way. I listened to WDEV but watched on NCAA.com
Where I was, it was the other way around by about 15 secs, and I couldn't get the video to pause. When I paused it instead of picking up where it left off, it jumped ahead those 15 secs. Yesterday, I paused WDEV and got the two pretty well synched.
rinky dink
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Re: RIT vs MIDD Norwich vs GA
Go - I don't know if you were in Rochester, but listening to the GA girls before the game who were talking about winning the game for the graduating seniors, and the tears in the lobby after the game, I don't think they did not give it a good effort.... you sell them too short. They have a couple of good good lines and defense and good goalie, they just did not quite have the depth of Middlebury.
On another note, congrats to Norwich on winning, I believe the Hockey Gods were watching over this group. Going back to February 15th, with a disallowed goal at Middlebury, that clearly was a good goal (absolutely no kicking motion) and called by a lineman from outside the zone, not by the ref who was closest to the play, with a different outcome Plattsburgh would have been in and Norwich would have been home watching. That goal/no goal probably had the biggest impact in DIII hockey this year. Credit to Norwich for taking advantage of the break. They deserved the victory last night, they were the better team.
Women's hockey deserves better reffing than what they got this weekend, there were so many bad calls or no calls. Somebody eventually be hurt. Blair and Everett are a joke and disgrace to officiating. So many times all weekend they would look at obvious penalties and not make calls. They obviously were the weakest refs, as they got the consolation game, after being reviewed by the committee on Friday. They are awful. Let's hope the NCAA opens their eyes. They did not favor any team, they just consistently stink game in and game out, and the DIII championship weekend deserves much better.
Sorry to see the season end, and can't wait for next fall when things start up again!!
Go - I don't know if you were in Rochester, but listening to the GA girls before the game who were talking about winning the game for the graduating seniors, and the tears in the lobby after the game, I don't think they did not give it a good effort.... you sell them too short. They have a couple of good good lines and defense and good goalie, they just did not quite have the depth of Middlebury.
On another note, congrats to Norwich on winning, I believe the Hockey Gods were watching over this group. Going back to February 15th, with a disallowed goal at Middlebury, that clearly was a good goal (absolutely no kicking motion) and called by a lineman from outside the zone, not by the ref who was closest to the play, with a different outcome Plattsburgh would have been in and Norwich would have been home watching. That goal/no goal probably had the biggest impact in DIII hockey this year. Credit to Norwich for taking advantage of the break. They deserved the victory last night, they were the better team.
Women's hockey deserves better reffing than what they got this weekend, there were so many bad calls or no calls. Somebody eventually be hurt. Blair and Everett are a joke and disgrace to officiating. So many times all weekend they would look at obvious penalties and not make calls. They obviously were the weakest refs, as they got the consolation game, after being reviewed by the committee on Friday. They are awful. Let's hope the NCAA opens their eyes. They did not favor any team, they just consistently stink game in and game out, and the DIII championship weekend deserves much better.
Sorry to see the season end, and can't wait for next fall when things start up again!!
Re: RIT vs MIDD Norwich vs GA
I, too think that Gojackets is reacting to the fact that the West went 0-2 again this year. There is no question in my mind that GAC fired every bullet they had on Saturday, they did not mail it in. They got 30 shots on net and had equal or greater offensive zone time. The Gusties belonged on the ice with these three Eastern teams. But I think in the end GAC and UWRF take turns coming to these games after spending four months beating up on lesser teams. They just don't get the opportunity to play in games where the opponent is the favorite. RIT, NU and Midd were all battle tested. This is not likely to change anytime soon, as we continue to see top level players from the Midwest flocking to NESCAC schools where they can get world class educations as well as top flight athletic competition. Find a way to keep those girls home and perhaps things will change. And, by the way, as a Panther fan who got to watch our girls win two of the last three consolation games, I say keep it in the format.
I, too think that Gojackets is reacting to the fact that the West went 0-2 again this year. There is no question in my mind that GAC fired every bullet they had on Saturday, they did not mail it in. They got 30 shots on net and had equal or greater offensive zone time. The Gusties belonged on the ice with these three Eastern teams. But I think in the end GAC and UWRF take turns coming to these games after spending four months beating up on lesser teams. They just don't get the opportunity to play in games where the opponent is the favorite. RIT, NU and Midd were all battle tested. This is not likely to change anytime soon, as we continue to see top level players from the Midwest flocking to NESCAC schools where they can get world class educations as well as top flight athletic competition. Find a way to keep those girls home and perhaps things will change. And, by the way, as a Panther fan who got to watch our girls win two of the last three consolation games, I say keep it in the format.
gojackets
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Its mostly a reaction to that fact. I'd agree with you on Gustavus. This MIAC for the most part is not a good conference from maybe the 3rd place team on down. Besides GAC, the 4 teams that were in the MIAC tournament went 6-13-1 out of conference, 4-13-1 if you take out Concordia's two wins over Finlandia. St Thomas was 0-4-1, St Olaf was 0-5. Some teams have had more success against Gustavus in the MIAC over the past year or two, but I think it has more to do with the fact that the coaches are finally coming up with a way of defending that system...and the other teams really have to get pumped to beat the Gusties at this point.
There have been 3 NCHA teams to the Frozen Four, not just River Falls who have only been there once.
Gustavus' track record at the Frozen Four is pretty awful. They are now 1-7 in Frozen Four games. Their only win was a 3-1 win over Plattsburgh in '05. I'm just getting really tired of Gustavus going out there and sucking it up, especially after all the talk about bring it out west and see what happens last year, and they go throw up a big old goose egg. They've been to the FF 4 times now, they play eastern teams more than anyone else in the west and they can't get it done.
Stevens Point at least is 3-3 at the Frozen Four and the only west team to make the championship game...of course they haven't been back since Ninneman took over and I don't see them getting back anytime soon
Its mostly a reaction to that fact. I'd agree with you on Gustavus. This MIAC for the most part is not a good conference from maybe the 3rd place team on down. Besides GAC, the 4 teams that were in the MIAC tournament went 6-13-1 out of conference, 4-13-1 if you take out Concordia's two wins over Finlandia. St Thomas was 0-4-1, St Olaf was 0-5. Some teams have had more success against Gustavus in the MIAC over the past year or two, but I think it has more to do with the fact that the coaches are finally coming up with a way of defending that system...and the other teams really have to get pumped to beat the Gusties at this point.
There have been 3 NCHA teams to the Frozen Four, not just River Falls who have only been there once.
Gustavus' track record at the Frozen Four is pretty awful. They are now 1-7 in Frozen Four games. Their only win was a 3-1 win over Plattsburgh in '05. I'm just getting really tired of Gustavus going out there and sucking it up, especially after all the talk about bring it out west and see what happens last year, and they go throw up a big old goose egg. They've been to the FF 4 times now, they play eastern teams more than anyone else in the west and they can't get it done.
Stevens Point at least is 3-3 at the Frozen Four and the only west team to make the championship game...of course they haven't been back since Ninneman took over and I don't see them getting back anytime soon
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Bottom line folks, the East has higher end teams than the West at this point. West teams do not the see the caliber of Norwich, Middy, Platty, Amhurts, RIT, to name a few. West teams that go to the FF deserve to be there, but to not get tested on a regualr basis to prepare for these match-ups...
Its mostly a reaction to that fact. I'd agree with you on Gustavus. This MIAC for the most part is not a good conference from maybe the 3rd place team on down. Besides GAC, the 4 teams that were in the MIAC tournament went 6-13-1 out of conference, 4-13-1 if you take out Concordia's two wins over Finlandia. St Thomas was 0-4-1, St Olaf was 0-5. Some teams have had more success against Gustavus in the MIAC over the past year or two, but I think it has more to do with the fact that the coaches are finally coming up with a way of defending that system...and the other teams really have to get pumped to beat the Gusties at this point.
There have been 3 NCHA teams to the Frozen Four, not just River Falls who have only been there once.
Gustavus' track record at the Frozen Four is pretty awful. They are now 1-7 in Frozen Four games. Their only win was a 3-1 win over Plattsburgh in '05. I'm just getting really tired of Gustavus going out there and sucking it up, especially after all the talk about bring it out west and see what happens last year, and they go throw up a big old goose egg. They've been to the FF 4 times now, they play eastern teams more than anyone else in the west and they can't get it done.
Stevens Point at least is 3-3 at the Frozen Four and the only west team to make the championship game...of course they haven't been back since Ninneman took over and I don't see them getting back anytime soon
Bottom line folks, the East has higher end teams than the West at this point. West teams do not the see the caliber of Norwich, Middy, Platty, Amhurts, RIT, to name a few. West teams that go to the FF deserve to be there, but to not get tested on a regualr basis to prepare for these match-ups...
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creasemonkey
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Re: RIT vs MIDD Norwich vs GA
I agree. I was there to witness - to say that the refs were abysmal would be giving them much too much credit. Early whistles on loose pucks, countless blatant body checks and out right dirty play not called against one of the players (who shall remain namelesss) on the Gusties. You name it. These young women deserve better.
I agree. I was there to witness - to say that the refs were abysmal would be giving them much too much credit. Early whistles on loose pucks, countless blatant body checks and out right dirty play not called against one of the players (who shall remain namelesss) on the Gusties. You name it. These young women deserve better.
creasemonkey
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I think they should at least be given credit for getting to the FF... it's more than many other teams can say, whether there in the east or west. Their time will come.
I think they should at least be given credit for getting to the FF... it's more than many other teams can say, whether there in the east or west. Their time will come.
gojackets
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Well hopefully your not referring to Hjelm as her 5 checking penalties on the weekend shoudl be a record. I'd say I saw a lot of inconsistency. Hjelm touched someone and they'd fall down arm goes up...a Norwich player would run into a Gustie player and knock them over and nothing. There were so many times when bodies were flying around and no calls, but anytime Hjelm touched someone she got called for it.
Well hopefully your not referring to Hjelm as her 5 checking penalties on the weekend shoudl be a record. I'd say I saw a lot of inconsistency. Hjelm touched someone and they'd fall down arm goes up...a Norwich player would run into a Gustie player and knock them over and nothing. There were so many times when bodies were flying around and no calls, but anytime Hjelm touched someone she got called for it.
creasemonkey
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That's precisely to whom I was referring. Sorry, but she should probably have had another 5 called against her during the game against Middlebury. Really, in my opinion, she should have been tossed from the game. It's one thing if it's inadvertent, but she engaged in blatant body checking - numerous times.
That's precisely to whom I was referring. Sorry, but she should probably have had another 5 called against her during the game against Middlebury. Really, in my opinion, she should have been tossed from the game. It's one thing if it's inadvertent, but she engaged in blatant body checking - numerous times.
creasemonkey
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Agreed, lots of school spirit and a comfortable venue; they packed the house. On another note, congratulations to the NU Cadets!
Can't wait til November!!
Agreed, lots of school spirit and a comfortable venue; they packed the house. On another note, congratulations to the NU Cadets!
Can't wait til November!!
gojackets
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I didn't see that game, but did notice that one of hers resulted in a penalty shot...what was that all about?
I didn't see that game, but did notice that one of hers resulted in a penalty shot...what was that all about?
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she was a step or two behind Ugalde of Midd, in stride breaking in alone, and threw herself to the puck and took out puck/Ugalde about 2-3 feet off crease from a side angle (not completely from behind) -- enough to warrant a PS but could also have been a non-call without much argument either (suspect that the refs had her number by then and she was going to get the Chara treatment for being big and brassy even if she was just trying to play all out and tough -- not conceding anything). Ugalde buried it on the PS (while skating 30mph) -- thing of beauty.
she was a step or two behind Ugalde of Midd, in stride breaking in alone, and threw herself to the puck and took out puck/Ugalde about 2-3 feet off crease from a side angle (not completely from behind) -- enough to warrant a PS but could also have been a non-call without much argument either (suspect that the refs had her number by then and she was going to get the Chara treatment for being big and brassy even if she was just trying to play all out and tough -- not conceding anything). Ugalde buried it on the PS (while skating 30mph) -- thing of beauty.
PrezdeJohnson09
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It was a snipe. Justice had no chance. One of the best penalty shots I've ever seen. Ugalde seemed like she knew what she was going to do the whole time and just buried it.
It was a snipe. Justice had no chance. One of the best penalty shots I've ever seen. Ugalde seemed like she knew what she was going to do the whole time and just buried it.
Re: RIT vs MIDD Norwich vs GA
All right -- accountabilibuddy time -- I had RIT with a plus 10 all the way through.
RIT +9 --- 2nd
NU +4 --- 1st
Midd +3 -- 3rd
Manhattaville -1 -- 5th?
GAC -4 -- 4th
UWRF -3 -- 6th
Adrian -9 -- 7th
What did I miss? Doesn't goal differential mean anything anymore? If RIT had only gotten that one more golden goal for +10 -- they'd be on top. Lesson for y'all --- run up that score.
All right -- accountabilibuddy time -- I had RIT with a plus 10 all the way through.
RIT +9 --- 2nd
NU +4 --- 1st
Midd +3 -- 3rd
Manhattaville -1 -- 5th?
GAC -4 -- 4th
UWRF -3 -- 6th
Adrian -9 -- 7th
What did I miss? Doesn't goal differential mean anything anymore? If RIT had only gotten that one more golden goal for +10 -- they'd be on top. Lesson for y'all --- run up that score.