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LtPowers said:
Teams can still play themselves into the tournament. It's not like being a one-bid conference is inherent to the AHA; it's just the way it works out most of the time.
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Yes they can, but in the AHC, their hands are tied by the entire conference's OOC record. RMU actually had a winning record in their own OOC games and an excellent conference record, but it still wasn't anywhere near good enough to get into the top 15 nationally (even beating RIT and NU down the stretch probably wouldn't have done it for them). Bottom line is that AHC is for all intents and purposes a one-bid conference, like it or lump it. The fact that there was an at-large selection once does not necessarily disprove that. That was an exceptional case so far and is still somewhat unlikely to happen again, at least not on any sort of regular basis. Until the conference gets to the point where there is at least one team seriously contending for an at-large bid each and every season, I'm not buying it.
So you're point is that RMU didn't do what it needed to do to earn a tournament selection in the regular season, so it's ok that a clearly inferior team (just about anyone else in the AHC based on regular season results) might go on to represent the conference in the national tournament. Should we just say that since nobody in AHC won enough to earn an at-large bid that there should be no AHC representation?
I wouldn't suggest that both AHC champs deserve a bid, I just would prefer that teams that prove themselves to be the best in a given conference get rewarded for it (more than a 1 week bye in the conference tournament) more than a team that happened to get on a little roll and win 4 or 6 times the last couple weeks of the season. I know it will never happen, just my opinion.
 
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Atlantic Hockey announced their All-Conference team today:
http://atlantichockeyonline.com/news/2014-15_News/1415allconferenceteam

Garbowsky was the only UNANIMOUS selection by the committee, named to the First Team.

4 other Tigers were also selected:

- Mitchell (second team)
- B Norrish (second team)
- McGowan (third team)
- Kuqali (third team)
 
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RIT Winters said:
Garbowsky was the only UNANIMOUS selection by the committee, named to the First Team.

4 other Tigers were also selected:

- Mitchell (second team)
- B Norrish (second team)
- McGowan (third team)
- Kuqali (third team)
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Those all seem pretty reasonable to me... I think I would have flipped Brady and Kuqali, though. While I was very impressed with Brady, especially as a Freshman, I thought Kuqali was the more consistent player defensively. If there's a 2-on-1 coming our way, Kuqali is the guy I want as our 1.

Regardless, the Norrish/Kuqali pairing has been solid down the stretch. I'm glad they both got some recognition.
 
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Haaafs said:
Those all seem pretty reasonable to me... I think I would have flipped Brady and Kuqali, though. While I was very impressed with Brady, especially as a Freshman, I thought Kuqali was the more consistent player defensively. If there's a 2-on-1 coming our way, Kuqali is the guy I want as our 1.

Regardless, the Norrish/Kuqali pairing has been solid down the stretch. I'm glad they both got some recognition.
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Where Norrish might struggle defensively he makes up offensively. He's very aggressive to the puck and makes a lot of chances happen, reminds me of Nolan Descoteaux in that sense but he's definitely better defensively than Nolan was.
 
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TigerFan86-87 said:
I wouldn't suggest that both AHC champs deserve a bid, I just would prefer that teams that prove themselves to be the best in a given conference get rewarded for it (more than a 1 week bye in the conference tournament) more than a team that happened to get on a little roll and win 4 or 6 times the last couple weeks of the season. I know it will never happen, just my opinion.
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But if you don't send your tournament champ, then why bother having a tournament? And what would teams have left to play for down the stretch as they're eliminated from regular season championship contention? And wouldn't that give an advantage to those teams that play eliminated teams?

And shouldn't we send the team that's playing the best at the end of the season, rather than a team that may have racked up all of its points early and faded down the stretch?


Powers &8^]
 
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LtPowers said:
But if you don't send your tournament champ, then why bother having a tournament? And what would teams have left to play for down the stretch as they're eliminated from regular season championship contention? And wouldn't that give an advantage to those teams that play eliminated teams?

And shouldn't we send the team that's playing the best at the end of the season, rather than a team that may have racked up all of its points early and faded down the stretch?


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I love the idea that teams in the conference tournament have something to play for. Regular season consistent greatness means nothing in Atlantic Hockey. At least in basketball, conference regular season winners are guaranteed a spot in the NIT. If it were financially feasible, and I know it's not, it would be cool to have a hockey NIT. It could be 4 teams since it's unlikely that any other conference regular season winner would miss the NCAAs.
 
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Rumor circulating about Rotolo being injured in practice. Let the panic begun... :rolleyes:
 
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komey1 said:
I love the idea that teams in the conference tournament have something to play for.
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There are plenty of conference tournaments that serve no purpose relative to the NCAA's to a lot of the teams involved (that are probably getting at-large bids anyhow). The teams involved still play hard from top to bottom because they are playing for the pride of winning their conference championship. That is really what they should be playing for.

komey1 said:
Regular season consistent greatness means nothing in Atlantic Hockey.
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This is exactly what I hate about it. That sucks. Why waste time and energy on the season if it essentially makes no difference?

komey1 said:
At least in basketball, conference regular season winners are guaranteed a spot in the NIT. If it were financially feasible, and I know it's not, it would be cool to have a hockey NIT. It could be 4 teams since it's unlikely that any other conference regular season winner would miss the NCAAs.
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Virtually NOBODY cares about the NIT. It wouldn't fly to have a second tournament in a 59 team league that already sends 16 to the post-season. Basketball can kind of get away with a second tournament because there are 300+ teams.
 
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LtPowers said:
But if you don't send your tournament champ, then why bother having a tournament?
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Now you're catching on...;) But seriously... To win a conference championship, bragging rights, and a pretty trophy, that's why... oh wait a minute... Follow the $$$$$

LtPowers said:
And what would teams have left to play for down the stretch as they're eliminated from regular season championship contention?
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What do they have to play for now? That remains the same. No matter how well or poorly anybody plays in the regular season, they all make the conference tournament.
What you describe is the way it is in pro sports. If you play poorly, you eventually get eliminated from post-season contention and play out the string. That's life. Tough bananas.

LtPowers said:
And wouldn't that give an advantage to those teams that play eliminated teams?
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Yes, of course. See above.

LtPowers said:
And shouldn't we send the team that's playing the best at the end of the season, rather than a team that may have racked up all of its points early and faded down the stretch?
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Again... Then what's the point of the regular season? Let's all just practice from October through February, then have a conference tournament to pick the NCAA representative. There's a reason the season is as long as it is. The best teams play the best over the long haul. If a team starts 20-0-0, then finishes 6-6-2, they have earned themselves a 26-6-2 record, regardless. Who cares what order it came in?
And by "faded down the strecth", you mean got upset in a single elimination game or a short best of 3 series. Not necessarily the definition of a fade. On any given night anybody can beat anybody. That doesn't mean they're a better team, just that they played better that night. That's why the pros play best of 7 series in the post season. This is a tough sport to judge one or two games at a time. There's absolutely nothing we can do about that at the college level, however. It has to be short series and single eliminations, whether it's a realistic picture of who is the best or not.
 
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Clearly RIT should forfeit all conference games, schedule as many Non-conference games as possible, and just show up to the AHC tournament.
 
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TigerFan86-87 said:
Again... Then what's the point of the regular season? Let's all just practice from October through February, then have a conference tournament to pick the NCAA representative. There's a reason the season is as long as it is. The best teams play the best over the long haul. If a team starts 20-0-0, then finishes 6-6-2, they have earned themselves a 26-6-2 record, regardless. Who cares what order it came in?
And by "faded down the strecth", you mean got upset in a single elimination game or a short best of 3 series. Not necessarily the definition of a fade. On any given night anybody can beat anybody. That doesn't mean they're a better team, just that they played better that night. That's why the pros play best of 7 series in the post season. This is a tough sport to judge one or two games at a time. There's absolutely nothing we can do about that at the college level, however. It has to be short series and single eliminations, whether it's a realistic picture of who is the best or not.
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You've completely missed my point, again. You are so blinded by your own POV that you can't come around and see anyone else's.

First of all, college sports are not professional sports. Comparing the two can be very misleading.

Second of all, by "faded down the stretch", I mean playing crappy at the end of the season. "If a team starts 20-0-0, then finishes 6-6-2, they have earned themselves a 26-6-2 record, regardless. Who cares what order it came in?" -- Everyone should care, because that team isn't going anywhere in the NCAA tournament, whereas a team that did the opposite has a shot at going all the way. That was the entire point of the sentence you quoted but it apparently whooshed right over your head.


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TigerFan86-87 said:
Now you're catching on...;) But seriously... To win a conference championship, bragging rights, and a pretty trophy, that's why... oh wait a minute... Follow the $$$$$
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And I thought the league officials were in it for the glory! Or just trying to meet payroll!


TigerFan86-87 said:
What do they have to play for now? That remains the same. No matter how well or poorly anybody plays in the regular season, they all make the conference tournament.
What you describe is the way it is in pro sports. If you play poorly, you eventually get eliminated from post-season contention and play out the string. That's life. Tough bananas.
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So, how many 9 through 12 seeds have made it to the conference tournament and then went on to the NCAA's?


TigerFan86-87 said:
Again... Then what's the point of the regular season? Let's all just practice from October through February, then have a conference tournament to pick the NCAA representative. There's a reason the season is as long as it is. The best teams play the best over the long haul. If a team starts 20-0-0, then finishes 6-6-2, they have earned themselves a 26-6-2 record, regardless. Who cares what order it came in?
And by "faded down the strecth", you mean got upset in a single elimination game or a short best of 3 series. Not necessarily the definition of a fade. On any given night anybody can beat anybody. That doesn't mean they're a better team, just that they played better that night. That's why the pros play best of 7 series in the post season. This is a tough sport to judge one or two games at a time. There's absolutely nothing we can do about that at the college level, however. It has to be short series and single eliminations, whether it's a realistic picture of who is the best or not.
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Top six teams get a bye-week and the top five get home ice for the 'short 3 game series' while the lower seeds have to fight their way through the previous weeks games to even get a chance to ruin the higher seeds seasons. Doesn't see fair to the lower seeds either!
 
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Tom Naeger said:
Rumor circulating about Rotolo being injured in practice. Let the panic begun... :rolleyes:
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If this is true and he can't go this weekend, could be very scary for the Tigers. Air Force might be shaky defensively but they sure can score.
 
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RIT Winters said:
If this is true and he can't go this weekend, could be very scary for the Tigers. Air Force might be shaky defensively but they sure can score.
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Oh boy... was feeling pretty confident about RIT winning this weekend, the fact that Air Force scored 10 and 6 goals last weekend against a team that obviously didnt show up in AIC is pretty irrelevant. We scored 8 against a way better team, which doesnt matter much either. However, your hot goalie going into playoffs getting hurt is game changer for sure. If its true, I hope Ruby and the D can really step it up! I think RIT has an advantage playing at home, against a 4-11 away team record who has never played here. I still say RIT prevails, no matter who is in net.
 
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Tom Naeger said:
Rumor circulating about Rotolo being injured in practice. Let the panic begun... :rolleyes:
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FWIW, Rotolo is listed on the line chart for tonight. The goalies are always listed in number order, so it's tough to say whether he will start, but the good news is he will be dressed.

http://www.ritathletics.com/custompages/mhock/2014-15/RIT_Line Chart_AHAQFGame1_031315.pdf
 
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blazer777 said:
Hope you can get u your towel back!
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Yeah, I'm happy for Jordan to get a huge win in his senior year after it was looking like he might not play again. He definitely made some big saves no doubt on the very few real chances Air Force had. Kind of a lackluster game because of Air Force playing protect the queen basically except for on the PP and in the last few minutes of the third due to the fact they obviously have less talent top to bottom. Wasnt impressed with anything they did, their top line doesnt compare to ours. In any event, RIT just needs to come out and get a couple goals and continue their own stingy defense tomorrow. I think that that on Air Force's one goal that their guy's left skate trapped Jordan from sliding over to get that shot, but no matter now. Great win for the team!
 
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