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>>>>> RIT TIGERS 2013-2014 - Rocking The Ritter One Last Time <<<<<

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i'm aware of our situation, and how conferences align, and yes i'm still bitter that uconn gets to move and we don't.

ecac please.
 
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I'm aware of our situation, and how conferences align, and yes I'm still bitter that Uconn gets to move and we don't.

UConn has location in terms for what the Hockey East wants. I know that Notre Dame though is Indiana but that is a deep pocketed athletic department that can afford that type of travel east and my guess is they are giving some Hockey East teams money to travel out to Indiana as part of the deal. I'm guessing that the Hockey East teams don't want 8 hour bus rides to Rochester.
 
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I'm aware of our situation, and how conferences align, and yes I'm still bitter that Uconn gets to move and we don't.

I'd much rather play in the AHA than Hockey East. Without scholarships, we would be a very small fish in a very large pond filled with sharks. As soon as UCONN committed to them, they immediately blew up the number of scholarship hockey players they were bringing on and started spending money...and even still they are years away from competing. Our inability to do that would make a Hockey East experience very painful.

ECAC puts us more in line with our peers and their financial situations. That's the seat we have to wait for.
 
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I'd much rather play in the AHA than Hockey East. Without scholarships, we would be a very small fish in a very large pond filled with sharks. As soon as UCONN committed to them, they immediately blew up the number of scholarship hockey players they were bringing on and started spending money...and even still they are years away from competing. Our inability to do that would make a Hockey East experience very painful.


And then the posts on this forum would look very similar to what we see today, except maybe with some more "recruiting sucks" and "fire wayne wilson" posts.
 
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ECAC puts us more in line with our peers and their financial situations. That's the seat we have to wait for.

Yes. Our hope was that RPI or QU would have jumped to HEA. I think RIT would have been very attractive to ECAC then, arguably the best fit from AHA. (I know people quibble about travel partners, but that is always relatively easily solved with teams so close to one another.)

I'm not sure I see another ECAC scenario opening up for RIT any time soon, but you never know. I agree that our best shot at something like that is to get back to winning the AHA every year or so (OK, maybe every couple of years.) Call me crazy, but I have not given up hope on this team yet. And I would say Wilson has earned the job until he wants to leave on his own terms. This is a non-revenue sport at a DIII school ... we can afford to have some loyalty to our employees who "in essence" built the place.
 
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I wasn't implying RIT go to HEA. We all were pretty much praying for an ECAC team to move over and open a spot for RIT.

UConn has location in terms for what the Hockey East wants. I know that Notre Dame though is Indiana but that is a deep pocketed athletic department that can afford that type of travel east and my guess is they are giving some Hockey East teams money to travel out to Indiana as part of the deal. I'm guessing that the Hockey East teams don't want 8 hour bus rides to Rochester.
 
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And then the posts on this forum would look very similar to what we see today, except maybe with some more "recruiting sucks" and "fire wayne wilson" posts.

Yeppers!
 
Yes. Our hope was that RPI or QU would have jumped to HEA. I think RIT would have been very attractive to ECAC then, arguably the best fit from AHA. (I know people quibble about travel partners, but that is always relatively easily solved with teams so close to one another.)

I'm not sure I see another ECAC scenario opening up for RIT any time soon, but you never know. I agree that our best shot at something like that is to get back to winning the AHA every year or so (OK, maybe every couple of years.) Call me crazy, but I have not given up hope on this team yet. And I would say Wilson has earned the job until he wants to leave on his own terms. This is a non-revenue sport at a DIII school ... we can afford to have some loyalty to our employees who "in essence" built the place.

The most likely bet with the ECAC is if the Ivies decide to break off and do their own thing, leaving two separate 6 team conferences. However, I'm not sure how likely that is (gut says not very, but who knows)
 
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I'm late on the Max Mikowski discussion but the Jr. Sabres are going to be playing on Sunday the 15th at the Frozen Frontier (instead of making the trip down to Buffalo).
 
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The most likely bet with the ECAC is if the Ivies decide to break off and do their own thing, leaving two separate 6 team conferences. However, I'm not sure how likely that is (gut says not very, but who knows)

I hope we never see that. With the ECAC getting stronger every year I think it would make it tough for the Ivies to break away. This conference has had a rebirth of sorts.
 
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As a long time ECAC fan and observer, I always figured that Quinnipiac's real objective was Hockey East when they first joined the ECAC. And ECAC purists (like me) did not like QU joining the ECAC (as a replacement for Vermont) because QU doesn't really fit the profile of Ivy or the old time academically-oriented small college that make the ECAC unique and special. At the time, I believe that most ECAC fans and coaches would have preferred Holy Cross over QPac -- but that didn't work out because HC was unable to commit to a D-1 women's program which was a condition for entry into the ECAC.

That said, I think both the ECAC and Quinnipiac have to be very happy with how things have worked out. QU are more than pulling their weight in terms of giving the ECAC street cred with recruits and journalists. My sense is that their spending has spurred other ECAC schools, like Union and Yale, to start putting more emphasis on the sport. The ECAC has the best interconference record for the first time in ages. It also might have been a much tougher road for QU to hoe trying to get competitive had they been able to go straight to HEA. Furthermore, like all of the non-Ivy schools in the ECAC, they have to like seeing Harvard, Cornell, Yale and Dartmouth showing up on their schedule. My guess is that they are now pretty happy where they are and I would guess the ECAC is pretty happy to have them.

There was never any question in my mind that Connecticut, as the last remaining New England Land Grant University, would end up in Hockey East sooner or later. And, no conference in any sport on earth would ever turn down having Notre Dame's brand in their league -- So there was never much likelihood that RPI or QU were going to end up with even a chance to go to Hockey East. RPI has a long DIII and D-1 sports history with SLU, Clarkson and Union (in what is now the Liberty League) across almost every sport -- so while people have talked about a possible RPI move to Hockey East, I doubt that it would ever happen even if a spot opened up -- as RPI as a school looks a lot more like its non-Ivy New York State ECAC brethren than it looks like a BU or BC or Maine.

Which leaves you with one slim hope. Merrimack or even less likely, Providence. These schools are small and look nothing like the other Hockey East schools ( other than Catholic affiliation they share with BC and ND. The price to be competitive in Hockey East might one day shake Merrimack out of the tree. Then perhaps a Hockey East slot opens up -- which might be suitable for an RIT or, in what I now consider the unlikely event of an RPI or QU springing to Hockey East, then perhaps an ECAC slot opens up. Given RIT's Liberty League DIII affiliation, I'm sure that would help. I don't know where the Ivies would come down on RIT vs. say Holy Cross. Maybe Hockey East would pass over RIT and try to find a good weekend travel partner for Notre Dame (like Miami).

If the Ivies were to break away from the ECAC, which I believe they would be ill-advised to do, then I think you would see the ECAC go to 8-10 teams with RIT, Holy Cross at the head of the pack. I also wouldn't completely discount the possibility of a big SUNY school pushing up to D1 or (I hope this never happens -but it gets tossed around occassionally) schools like SLU or Union throwing in the towel on the cost of playing at the D-1 level and the ECAC falling apart. But right now the ECAC looks like the most stable game in town and its on the way up. Puck drops in one hour. For my money, RIT has overperformed in the short history of the SLU-RIT series so I'm nervous notwithstanding the team records.
 
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Great post, bcarlisle. Lots of good information in there, and grats to your team on the W tonight.

As for RIT, I saw two great periods of hockey and one terrible period. PK was terrible all night but SLU is a team that is built to score. I was encouraged that RIT seemed to throw the puck at the net a lot more, particularly from the point. They were quickly rewarded for this and hopefully they take that as a sign that they should do it more often.

I don't know if we ran out of gas or if SLU put the pedal down in the 3rd, but it was like watching a totally different game. Also I'll be interested to see who starts tomorrow. Ruby can't start EVERY game...and with how he's been playing maybe a night off to clear his head would be good for him. No more out of conference games left on the schedule, so that's another reason to put in somebody else if you think Ruby is going to carry the load the whole rest of the way.
 
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Sat next to Justin Baker's mom, so it was cool that he got second star for the night. While RIT Winters is correct that the 3rd was all SLU, it's also true that RIT got a lot of life from their first goal--yikes! One of the worst goalie miscues I've seen, just seconds into the game--but Parks settled down, to his credit, and played well for the rest of the game. Great to see the team play, and I think they can do some damage to just about ANY team, even the Fighting S*^@x.
 
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Watching RIT is frustrating now is that they seem to be putting together some good stretches where the team can play with most anyone. For 2 periods, the game was pretty even. The third period once again was a meltdown. That needs to be corrected.

I'm convinced that RIT will put together a stretch where they will be dominant. For the most part, I think that RIT can make some hay against the eastern teams to get back into the mix. They are going to need to execute better in the third though.
 
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Watching RIT is frustrating now is that they seem to be putting together some good stretches where the team can play with most anyone. For 2 periods, the game was pretty even. The third period once again was a meltdown. That needs to be corrected.

I'm convinced that RIT will put together a stretch where they will be dominant. For the most part, I think that RIT can make some hay against the eastern teams to get back into the mix. They are going to need to execute better in the third though.

Well, we won. If we can go 5-0 these couple weeks. I may admit I might be wrong about coach Wilson. But I am still a firm believer as a coach you must perform.
 
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Goaltender rotation for a few weeks (more if it works)?????
 
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Well, we won. If we can go 5-0 these couple weeks. I may admit I might be wrong about coach Wilson. But I am still a firm believer as a coach you must perform.

Your standards are too high. Even the best, longest-tenured coaches in college hockey have down years. Do you think Brian Riley's job at Army is in jeopardy because they've been in the cellar for a few years? Do you have any idea how long AIC's coach has been there? It's unfair to can a college-level coach over a few poor performances. If they go a whole recruiting cycle (4 years) without noticeable improvement, maybe. But a year and a month? Give me a break! What new coach could we get who would accept the job under those conditions?


Powers &8^]
 
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Goaltender rotation for a few weeks (more if it works)?????

It will be very interesting to see what happens next weekend. Wilson was clear that Ruby was the #1 and they were both happy to enter the season without having to platoon. In Sportszone episode 2 Ruby speaks to how rotating hurts his game and his confidence, so I'm sure he doesn't want to go back to that again.

But after 10 games of mediocre play on a bottom of the standings team....maybe it's time to give other guys a chance.
 
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If Rotolo had put up a shutout or only allowed 1 goal I think it would be a more viable question regarding starting him. But he allowed 4 on 30 shots, which is very pedestrian. If Ruby put up that performance, I don't think we would have been screaming how great it was, but likely would have said that they won in spite of his performance.

The bigger thing is that the offense finally scored some goals. That's going to be the thing that helps turn around the season.
 
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If Rotolo had put up a shutout or only allowed 1 goal I think it would be a more viable question regarding starting him. But he allowed 4 on 30 shots, which is very pedestrian. If Ruby put up that performance, I don't think we would have been screaming how great it was, but likely would have said that they won in spite of his performance.

Agreed. I think it was good for Ruby to get a rest day and it's a non-conference game. Wilson usually starts the "third string" goalie in a non-conference game, right? So, I think Ruby will still be #1 unless he gets pulled from a game and replaced by MacLean or Rotolo and they win the position from him.
 
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