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RIT & Niagara @ RPI & Union (10/22, 10/23)

Re: RIT & Niagara @ RPI & Union (10/22, 10/23)

knsmith said:
Don't bother with shuttle buses. Assuming you will get there at least 30 minutes before gametime, by far the most convenient free parking is on Sherry Road. If coming from Route 7, make a right onto 15th street and then make a left after about half a mile onto Sage Ave. Sage Ave will fork shortly thereafter; bear left to get onto Sherry Road. There is street parking on Sherry Road all the way up to Burdett. To get to the arena just walk up to Burdett and then up the many stairs and you'll see HFH.

For food I recommend Notty Pine or Brown's. Recovery Room is fine and nice and all, but no local flavor whatsoever (other than the sense of prestige you might get from being in the same building that Dr. Jackson lives in :p). Stay away from the Ruck (or anywhere on that side of Congress St, for that matter).
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Well, just in case Sherry Road is taken up. Typically I try to park at least an hour before the game for that very reason. You may also get lucky on Burdett.
 
Re: RIT & Niagara @ RPI & Union (10/22, 10/23)

BC/HE said:
The RIT fans are not going to like what I am going to say but RIT had a distinct advantage playing UML and yet they still only came away with a tie. Not only was there a decided home fan advantage with the huge crowd but they were playing a team that was exhausted from playing a come from behind OT tie the night before while RIT was off. UML had to run in full gear that third period and OT the previous night managing to get half their shots in those 25 minutes.
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I agree. I think Lowell reached back and found another gear late in the game. I was impressed. RIT outworked a lot of teams last season but not Lowell on Saturday.
 
Re: RIT & Niagara @ RPI & Union (10/22, 10/23)

dutchbrowncoat said:
i just plan on getting there early and asking for seats by the visiting team at the counter. from there i will probably move next to wherever the band is. i would just say head to wherever the orange seems to be gathering. shouldnt be a problem to shift over some seats. the other times i have been to the houston field house there was enough room to move around. i dont think they come close to selling out the arena outside of clarkson, union, and the freak out.
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If you actually want to see the game i wouldnt recommend sitting where the visiting bands usually sit....one year for the freakout i had to sit there and your behind and to the side of the goal....visitors usually sit in the corner to the left as you walk in
 
Re: RIT & Niagara @ RPI & Union (10/22, 10/23)

burgie12 said:
That is a great shot of Bailen ripping a shot from the point. It's a shame they don't give credit to the photographer (although my guess is that it's Sara Melkian).
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Her name is on the right edge of the photo. :p (Melikian?)
 
Re: RIT & Niagara @ RPI & Union (10/22, 10/23)

Ralph Baer said:
As to speed special mention should be given to freshman Johnny "Rocket" Rogic. There's a you tube video out there of him splitting the defense that's worth watching.

Edit: Rogic video. The play starts at about 40 seconds. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGzPCyticMI
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Nice goal by Union's Matt Hatch in that video too :).. he also is not a shabby skater.

Union is very deep at forward and can put out 4 lines that can score. Goaltending is also a strength, especially Kinkaid who has been outstanding so far. The d-men lack experience but are talented, which has lead to some high risk/reward situations. Team confidence is definitely high. How the team will adjust after coming back from Alaska last weekend is a bit of a question, but with the depth on the team should not be an issue. I would expect either Milan or Grosenick to get the start in goal on Friday and Kinkaid on Saturday.. though of course I'm not the coach :o.

Should be a great weekend of games and am looking forward to seeing a Frozen Four team in Schenectady. This could be a preview of what an Empire League weekend will look like in a couple years ;).
 
Re: RIT & Niagara @ RPI & Union (10/22, 10/23)

ADK11 said:
This could be a preview of what an Empire League weekend will look like in a couple years ;).
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Wow.... if the big 10 conference does happen and this came to be. What teams would be in it?

Obviously we are suggesting:
RIT
RPI
Union
Niagara
Canisius?
Clarkson?
Colgate?
Cornell?

(Although i doubt any of the ivy's would want to leave for this league).
 
Re: RIT & Niagara @ RPI & Union (10/22, 10/23)

Zyklon said:
Wow.... if the big 10 conference does happen and this came to be. What teams would be in it?

Obviously we are suggesting:
RIT
RPI
Union
Niagara
Canisius?
Clarkson?
Colgate?
Cornell?

(Although i doubt any of the ivy's would want to leave for this league).
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you can throw in st lawrence and army too. canisius would get steamrolled in this league.
 
Re: RIT & Niagara @ RPI & Union (10/22, 10/23)

dutchbrowncoat said:
you can throw in st lawrence and army too. canisius would get steamrolled in this league.
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I was thinking army was a little too south. I tried to keep it in the . Albany, Buffalo and up triangle-ish.

Unless you think it should extend all that way down. The teams I picked for the most part are 2-3 hours away from each other, which is really nice.

So revised:

RIT
RPI
Union
Niagara
Clarkson
Colgate
Cornell
St. Lawrence

Possibles:
Canisius (Geographically fit in, otherwise not so much.)
Army (Air force would want in, which would cause problems)
 
Re: RIT & Niagara @ RPI & Union (10/22, 10/23)

Zyklon said:
I was thinking army was a little too south. I tried to keep it in the . Albany, Buffalo and up triangle-ish.

Unless you think it should extend all that way down. The teams I picked for the most part are 2-3 hours away from each other, which is really nice.

So revised:

RIT
RPI
Union
Niagara
Clarkson
Colgate
Cornell
St. Lawrence

Possibles:
Canisius (Geographically fit in, otherwise not so much.)
Army (Air force would want in, which would cause problems)
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There is no way on earth that Cornell would break away from the other Ivies.
 
Re: RIT & Niagara @ RPI & Union (10/22, 10/23)

The travel partner scheme would really get messed up with those 10 teams.

Also, if anyone read the ECAC blog this week, 2 of the ECAC coaches interviewed (Marsh, Appert) are very satisfied with playing in the same league as the Ivies. I would agree with them. Nothing puts a smile on our faces like beating Harvard.
 
Re: RIT & Niagara @ RPI & Union (10/22, 10/23)

The only way I can see Empire league working is if you were to let Cornell stick with the ivies, and keep Army in Atlantic (they already fit somewhat in the "eastern half"). Even then, that's a heck of a home-home travel between RIT and Colgate. Of course you'd probably see a format similar to Hockey East, where the teams play each other 3 times (21 games), and then 13 non-conference.

Of course also, Q-Pac would then have to go back to Atlantic. I'm sure they'd be REALLY enthralled by that... :eek:
 
Re: RIT & Niagara @ RPI & Union (10/22, 10/23)

As i said it would be hard to split up the ivies. But you could probably get 6-8 of those teams to buy into it. Travel partner tho not so much. Teams that could travel together if you had the whole ten:

Niagara - Canisius
RPI - Union
St. Lawrence - Clarkson
Colgate - Cornell - RIT
Army - Fly solo or w/ Colgate, Cornell, Union, RPI

If i were to get rid of the possibles and cornell.

Niagara - RIT
RPI - Union
St. Lawrence - Clarkson
Colgate would be a semi partner of RIT and Niagara as well as RPI and Union.

edit: this helps a lot: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...lege_Hockey_-_all_men's_D-I_locations.svg.png
 
Re: RIT & Niagara @ RPI & Union (10/22, 10/23)

RIT coach Wayne Wilson on an Albany-area podcast for the weekend series. Link

Wilson confirms we'll see two different goalies this weekend, though he doesn't say which two.


Powers &8^]
 
Re: RIT & Niagara @ RPI & Union (10/22, 10/23)

While I would love to see an "Empire State" confernece, even with the Big 10 conference looming, I don't see it happening UNLESS Syracuse announces that they are playing DI hockey and wanting a state conference.

RIT
SLU
Clarkson
Union
RPI
Niagara
Colgate
Syracuse


Would be my confernece. I don't see Army joining, as they fit better with the AHA. This would leave QPac in a lerch where they would have to either get into Hockey East or join the remnants of the AHA.

I think those 8 schools would be interested in playing in that conference - which would have similar academic ideals.
 
Re: RIT & Niagara @ RPI & Union (10/22, 10/23)

Zyklon said:
As i said it would be hard to split up the ivies. But you could probably get 6-8 of those teams to buy into it. Travel partner tho not so much. Teams that could travel together if you had the whole ten:

Niagara - Canisius
RPI - Union
St. Lawrence - Clarkson
Colgate - Cornell - RIT
Army - Fly solo or w/ Colgate, Cornell, Union, RPI

If i were to get rid of the possibles and cornell.

Niagara - RIT
RPI - Union
St. Lawrence - Clarkson
Colgate would be a semi partner of RIT and Niagara as well as RPI and Union.

edit: this helps a lot: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...lege_Hockey_-_all_men's_D-I_locations.svg.png
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..and Syracuse when they are finally able to count women's cheerleading as a sport ;). Could also do a NY-Penn league and have Mercyhurst & RMU.
 
Re: RIT & Niagara @ RPI & Union (10/22, 10/23)

If the ivy leagues REALLY wanted to break off, I would say bring in Army (they can travel partner with Q-Pac) and RIT (they can travel partner with Colgate, though it's a heck of a long trip), MAYBE Canisius/Niagara. Just remember that with travel partners, you play at one site the first night, and then the other one the next, none of this playing the same team two nights in a row. I'm a little dubious because of the amount of non-conference play that would result (unless you just played each other twice, thereby 16-18 NC's, it'd be 7-9 if you play everyone 3 times a la Hockey East). If you can schedule it, 12-14 NC games (which half of the ECAC has now) is nice.

But, I don't see the east re-aligning anytime soon, so I'm for leaving well enough alone. Why screw up a good thing?

Anyway, I'm looking forward to a weekend of hockey!
 
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