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Reparations

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an excellent article. I've always said we should pay reparations to anyone who was enslaved. But this looks beyond slavery and into the Jim Crow era, the separate but equal idea and the housing projects. But be careful where you tread Kepler. All Democratic programs.
 
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I worked for the state civil rights commission for 5 years. I prosecuted civil rights act violations. Favorite memory was getting a black woman $5,000 from a tow truck driver who dropped an n-bomb on her as he drove off after refusing to serve her.

I subscribe to The Atlantic and read that when it was first published.

I adamantly disagree with Coates and you.
 
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Haven't finished but so far thats a pretty depressing article
 
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huskyfan said:
an excellent article. I've always said we should pay reparations to anyone who was enslaved. But this looks beyond slavery and into the Jim Crow era, the separate but equal idea and the housing projects. But be careful where you tread Kepler. All Democratic programs.
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Every single person who was enslaved is dead now. By your logic, there's nothing to pay.
 
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I think reparations are long overdue not just for African Americans but Native Americans as well. We haven’t come close to reconciling our disgusting past.
 
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As long as we use the American army to install third world dictators to steal the wealth of their citizens to maintain the lifestyle of the global 1% colonialism never ended. Can't pay the taxi fare when the meter's still running.
 
Kepler said:
As long as we use the American army to install third world dictators to steal the wealth of their citizens to maintain the lifestyle of the global 1% colonialism never ended. Can't pay the taxi fare when the meter's still running.
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Boom! Mossadegh democratically elected in Iran wants to retain oil money for his country. BP And Rockefeller’s say no and call Allen Dulles at CIA. Bye bye Mossadegh in 53. Same with Arbenz in Guatemala 54, Lumumba in Congo 60, Sukarno in Indonesia 65, Allende in Chile in 71(?) and the list continues through Nicaragua, El Salvador, Honduras, Iraq (twice) and on and on.
 
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solovsfett said:
I think reparations are long overdue not just for African Americans but Native Americans as well. We haven’t come close to reconciling our disgusting past.
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My grandparents came through Ellis Island, by the process, became citizens, in the early 20th century.

But I'm to pick up the bill for these (admittedly terrible) things that happened before my family's arrival?
 
The Sicatoka said:
My grandparents came through Ellis Island, by the process, became citizens, in the early 20th century.

But I'm to pick up the bill for these (admittedly terrible) things that happened before my family's arrival?
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Yes. You still benefit from it.
 
The Sicatoka said:
My grandparents came through Ellis Island, by the process, became citizens, in the early 20th century.

But I'm to pick up the bill for these (admittedly terrible) things that happened before my family's arrival?
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You won’t pay it. The US government will
 
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The Sicatoka said:
My grandparents came through Ellis Island, by the process, became citizens, in the early 20th century.

But I'm to pick up the bill for these (admittedly terrible) things that happened before my family's arrival?
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That's not how reparations work. You are no more and no less "America" than the descendants of the slaves. The US harmed these people -- formally, officially, legally. Now the US can make good on it.

You are saying the equivalent of "you can't sue a company for wrongdoing because that will affect workers at that company who didn't do anything and might even have been hired after the wrongdoing was finished."

No. That's not how this works.
 
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Kepler said:
That's not how reparations work. You are no more and no less "America" than the descendants of the slaves. The US harmed these people -- formally, officially, legally. Now the US can make good on it.

You are saying the equivalent of "you can't sue a company for wrongdoing because that will affect workers at that company who didn't do anything and might even have been hired after the wrongdoing was finished."

No. That's not how this works.
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So isn't the bulk of the "claim" then really against Britain and France? They're the mofo's who enslaved them and brought them here.
 
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SJHovey said:
So isn't the bulk of the "claim" then really against Britain and France? They're the mofo's who enslaved them and brought them here.
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The US inherited (and honored) the states' liabilities at the Founding. These are unpaid state debts.

If you want to bring suit against GB and FR be my guest. That's a different claim.
 
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