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Rep retirement lodge 193 — where should Mookie visit next?

Rep retirement lodge 193 — where should Mookie visit next?

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Good Morning, MEUSA! :)


Good Morning to the rest of tLodge! :)
 
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Scarlet said:
My brother is flying home tonight. Flight lands in a half hour. Waiting for him to call me when his flight lands so i can go pick him up. And I’m starting to fall asleep. Hope his flight is on time! I told him i was going to pick him up in my pajamas.
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Do they have bunny feet?

Good Morning Lodge!
Afternoon mook!
 
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Ralph Baer said:
387.0 miles to go.
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345.0 miles to go. Last ride until at least next Tuesday.
The last four days I have done the exact same ride and surprisingly my bike computer gave the same distance to the nearest 0.1 mile.
 
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Brenthoven said:
Yep, I have a strategery. Empty stomach, going to break the chip in half before basically slamming it in my mouth (no lip touching, hopefully no tip of the tongue touching), plugging my nose when I eat the chip (smell affects taste). I've had the ghost pepper before, with no ill effects; this is a different beast, but at least I have some experience in hot stuff.

That being said, I still don't know how my body will react to this. I will say I most likely will have many tears and sweat, after that....who knows?
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Well, you better suck it ****ing up, I put my $5 on you. I also have no faith in any of you fools, and picked a time of 1:38.
 
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s’upp y’all
 
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bigblue_dl said:
Well, you better suck it ****ing up, I put my $5 on you. I also have no faith in any of you fools, and picked a time of 1:38.
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If you win, I hear a bottle of Black Gold is in the cards for you. I will hopefully be contributing a bottle of some variant of Insight's Gravity Well.

I also plan on "pre-gaming" with a glass of milk right before the contest; get a coating in the ol' stomach. Kristin Bell (actress) dumped her milk out. That vid is easily found on youtube. On the other hand, Michael Pena (actor) said, "This is f*ing hot, and I'm Mexican!" :D

Mookie will be happy that I put a lot of points on Pittsburgh in the confidence pool I'm in. So far, so good.
 
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Milk does **** all. Get something like sour cream or whole milk yogurt.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
Milk does **** all. Get something like sour cream or whole milk yogurt.
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Speaking from experience, milk does wonders. So does table sugar. Just down a spoonful of that, and it helps the after-effects of heat. Yes, sour cream and whole milk yogurt will do the trick. Dairy kills heat. ;)
 
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Brenthoven said:
Speaking from experience, milk does wonders. So does table sugar. Just down a spoonful of that, and it helps the after-effects of heat. Yes, sour cream and whole milk yogurt will do the trick. Dairy kills heat. ;)
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It is the fat in the dairy that helps detach the capsaicin molecules from the receptors that trigger the burning effect. That's why things like water, bread, and skim or 1% milk are basically worthless when it comes to serious heat. Alton Brown had a whole segment on Good Eats about this years ago, though it's a bit dated since the habanero is no longer even close to being the world's hottest chile. Sugar does help as well, and capsaicin is alcohol-soluble, but you'd basically have to swish and gargle with 150+ proof liquor for it to be of much help (beer is, of course, mostly H2O, which is why it doesn't work).
 
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Brent is correct. Any dairy product contains a protein named casein, which binds nicely to the capsaicin molecule and pulls it off of your tongue's pain receptors. In addition, both capsaicin and milk are non-polar, which allows the capsaicin to dissolve in milk, whereas it does not dissolve in polar compounds such as water.

So to sum up, the casein protein binds to the capsaicin and pulls it into the milk, where it dissolves and is washed away.

EDIT: Ninja'd.
 
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Armadillo said:
Brent is correct. Any dairy product contains a protein named casein, which binds nicely to the capsaicin molecule and pulls it off of your tongue's pain receptors. In addition, both capsaicin and milk are non-polar, which allows the capsaicin to dissolve in milk, whereas it does not dissolve in polar compounds such as water.

So to sum up, the casein protein binds to the capsaicin and pulls it into the milk, where it dissolves and is washed away.

EDIT: Ninja'd.
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Which is why you want heavy dairy products like sour cream or cheese. Milk contains so much water that it’s far less effective than soemthing with a much higher casein content. Low percent milk is made up of almost all water. Cheese and sour cream aren’t.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
Which is why you want heavy dairy products like sour cream or cheese. Milk contains so much water that it’s far less effective than soemthing with a much higher casein content. Low percent milk is made up of almost all water. Cheese and sour cream aren’t.
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The only part where we all disagreed with you is that "Milk does * all." It DOES do good. Not AS good as other things, but it does do good.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
Which is why you want heavy dairy products like sour cream or cheese. Milk contains so much water that it’s far less effective than soemthing with a much higher casein content. Low percent milk is made up of almost all water. Cheese and sour cream aren’t.
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Milk in general is about 87% water, but that water is homogenized with the lipids present, resulting in a non-polar environment. That's what allows dairy to "wash away" the capsaicin, and the thickness of the dairy product is irrelevant to that.

Higher fat content might create a "coating" mouthfeel sensation, giving the illusion of more protection, but it isn't any more effective at binding and removing capsaicin.
 
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Chemistry doesn’t add up. A flood of a polar fluid will be the most effective means of dissolving a polar molecule. All you’re doing if you dilute with water is diminish its effectiveness.

Capsaicin is a wax. It’s not going to dissolve in water. Fat, on the other hand, is a wonderful medium to dissolve capsaicin. The best way to increase the mass transfer rate of capsaicin from your tongue to something else is a fluidlike substance that provides the most contact of a solvent to the helical being dissolved. Diluting it only hurts that transfer especially when the fluid used to dilute is not able to dissolve the substance.
 
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You realize you're talking to scientists here. You know, people who know what they are talking about. And no, that is not me. I'm the guinea pig.
 
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Brenthoven said:
You realize you're talking to scientists here. You know, people who know what they are talking about. And no, that is not me. I'm the guinea pig.
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Lolwut? I have two degrees in chemistry and engineering.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
Chemistry doesn’t add up. A flood of a polar fluid will be the most effective means of dissolving a polar molecule. All you’re doing if you dilute with water is diminish its effectiveness.

Capsaicin is a wax. It’s not going to dissolve in water. Fat, on the other hand, is a wonderful medium to dissolve capsaicin. The best way to increase the mass transfer rate of capsaicin from your tongue to something else is a fluidlike substance that provides the most contact of a solvent to the helical being dissolved. Diluting it only hurts that transfer especially when the fluid used to dilute is not able to dissolve the substance.
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Your entire second paragraph proves my point. Both capsaicin and milk are non-polar, ergo effective transfer.

EDIT: should clarify: milk is not a pure compound, so it contains both polar (OH bonds) and nonpolar (CH bonds in the fatty acids) elements. The capsaicin, being nonpolar and lipophilic, is attracted to the lipids and dissolved in the overall homogenous fluid.
 
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Milk is an emulsion or mostly water. Cheese and yogurt are not.
 
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