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Religion Thread: We Could Say a Prayer

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leswp1 said:
This makes me ask the question of what it the nice size? Women are all sizes. My lab partner in Physical Assessment class used to tease me that she was a bad partner for breasts because she was a AA cup. It kinda makes me sad that this part of the culture- feeling like you need big boobs- is something that is still part of what makes you a woman. We have tried so hard, for so long, to reassure women they don't need big boobs to be beautiful, or that having small ones doesn't make you less of a woman. (Not articulate but hoping this is coming across in the right way)
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And that was why I asked the initial question. Thundercat is in the process of throwing off traditional gender stereotypes and expectations that are unfair and even cruel. That takes courage and determination. But she still also seems vulnerable to another stereotype--the expectation about how the female body is supposed to look in our society.

I know that seems insensitive and obtuse to Thundercat--I.e., I don't get it.
 
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leswp1 said:
This makes me ask the question of what it the nice size? Women are all sizes. My lab partner in Physical Assessment class used to tease me that she was a bad partner for breasts because she was a AA cup. It kinda makes me sad that this part of the culture- feeling like you need big boobs- is something that is still part of what makes you a woman. We have tried so hard, for so long, to reassure women they don't need big boobs to be beautiful, or that having small ones doesn't make you less of a woman. (Not articulate but hoping this is coming across in the right way)
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It's no different from the male obsession with dick size. It doesn't matter for 99% of the population, but we all joke about it anyway.

Anyway, isn't this the religion thread? :p
 
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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
It's no different from the male obsession with dick size. It doesn't matter for 99% of the population, but we all joke about it anyway.

Anyway, isn't this the religion thread? :p
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Under the category of Spiritual well being?
 
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burd said:
And that was why I asked the initial question. Thundercat is in the process of throwing off traditional gender stereotypes and expectations that are unfair and even cruel. That takes courage and determination. But she still also seems vulnerable to another stereotype--the expectation about how the female body is supposed to look in our society.

I know that seems insensitive and obtuse to Thundercat--I.e., I don't get it.
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It's also about "passing," or making sure you look like someone's idea of a female. The concept is phobic, but it's there. But lately, more of us are saying screw "passing" and going out anyway.
 
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Back to religion:

Yesterday, I was in a car accident, and it clearly was my fault. I got no sleep Monday night, and by the time I left work Tuesday afternoon, I was dead tired. I nodded off, and I rear ended someone. I clearly accept responsibility for this. When speaking to a friend, she said "it was the enemy... they cause you to make poor decisions."

So, it was Satan's fault I got behind the wheel when I had no business driving?
 
MissThundercat said:
Back to religion:

Yesterday, I was in a car accident, and it clearly was my fault. I got no sleep Monday night, and by the time I left work Tuesday afternoon, I was dead tired. I nodded off, and I rear ended someone. I clearly accept responsibility for this. When speaking to a friend, she said "it was the enemy... they cause you to make poor decisions."

So, it was Satan's fault I got behind the wheel when I had no business driving?
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Satan tempts you into making morally false choices that you know are wrong, but you justify the act for some reason. For example, accumulating temporal power by stealing from the populace.

No, it wasn't Satan, this one's on you.
 
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Nah, Satan was just a decent goal scorer who left the league about 8 years ago.
 
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joecct said:
Satan tempts you into making morally false choices that you know are wrong, but you justify the act for some reason. For example, accumulating temporal power by stealing from the populace.

No, it wasn't Satan, this one's on you.
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Thank you. I knew that from the moment of impact.
 
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And on that note, apparently I need new friends. At least ones who don't blame "the enemy" when they or someone they know makes a boneheaded decision that leaves harsh consequences.
 
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St. Clown said:
Nah, Satan was just a decent goal scorer who left the league about 8 years ago.
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Not bad.

MissThundercat said:
Back to religion:

Yesterday, I was in a car accident, and it clearly was my fault. I got no sleep Monday night, and by the time I left work Tuesday afternoon, I was dead tired. I nodded off, and I rear ended someone. I clearly accept responsibility for this. When speaking to a friend, she said "it was the enemy... they cause you to make poor decisions."

So, it was Satan's fault I got behind the wheel when I had no business driving?
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Satan is a construct that is the natural opposite of God/Jesus. While its in the Bible as that, IMO it really serves no value to have Satan play any kind of role in one's active faith. Having Satan play a role in your journey is like focusing yourself in the morning on...'must not walk to work' when work is 20 miles away.

Paying any attention to Satan in best case distracts one from the Word itself...and in worst case, turns you into something that is 'against' things rather than 'for' things. And the latter is what Jesus is about.

MissThundercat said:
And on that note, apparently I need new friends. At least ones who don't blame "the enemy" when they or someone they know makes a boneheaded decision that leaves harsh consequences.
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That incident is a data point or a symptom...which obviously doesn't mean that this person is bad. But its not an encouraging sign. You'll know if its right to move on.
 
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5mn_Major said:
Not bad.



Satan is a construct that is the natural opposite of God/Jesus. While its in the Bible as that, IMO it really serves no value to have Satan play any kind of role in one's active faith. Having Satan play a role in your journey is like focusing yourself in the morning on...'must not walk to work' when work is 20 miles away.

Paying any attention to Satan in best case distracts one from the Word itself...and in worst case, turns you into something that is 'against' things rather than 'for' things. And the latter is what Jesus is about.



That incident is a data point or a symptom...which obviously doesn't mean that this person is bad. But its not an encouraging sign. You'll know if its right to move on.
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I told her I was eating the responsibility, and to pass the hot sauce. She just remained silent. No hot sauce was passed.

In terms of Satan/"the enemy," always a convenient scapegoat. The moment I hit that car, I had all the responsibility. The moment I got caustic chemicals on my face at work, I had all the responsibility. And I knew it. And I also knew when I was severely depressed, it was my own brain/anxiety/depression, not the "enemy" telling me I was worthless. Since hormones, that voice is extinct.
 
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MissThundercat said:
I told her I was eating the responsibility, and to pass the hot sauce. She just remained silent. No hot sauce was passed.

In terms of Satan/"the enemy," always a convenient scapegoat. The moment I hit that car, I had all the responsibility. The moment I got caustic chemicals on my face at work, I had all the responsibility. And I knew it. And I also knew when I was severely depressed, it was my own brain/anxiety/depression, not the "enemy" telling me I was worthless. Since hormones, that voice is extinct.
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And sadly not just a scapegoat, but a natural path to shift blame to others. Kinda seems to encourage behavior that's the opposite of the golden rule. Truly...satan be gone.
 
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Today, I was grateful for the community of Grace. At "the peace," I held onto a few people for a few seconds. Everyone understood; someone told me "you've had a rough time."
 
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MissThundercat said:
Today, I was grateful for the community of Grace. At "the peace," I held onto a few people for a few seconds. Everyone understood; someone told me "you've had a rough time."
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Awesome.

Tonight someone said that they felt bad for 'using God' to further personal improvement. My opinion was/is that can be a really great thing depending on what and how its done. I think that's part of the deal - get the most out of Him (and others who represent Him) as long as its for what you need. The Bible is one pretty amazing toolbox if used appropriately - and the right people are an extension of that.
 
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Today, we read from Mark about the Rich Young Man. ("Sell your possessions and follow Me.")

That made a whole bunch of parishioners squirm today.
 
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MissThundercat said:
Today, we read from Mark about the Rich Young Man. ("Sell your possessions and follow Me.")

That made a whole bunch of parishioners squirm today.
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They should. And so should I and so should you if you were at that stage of your faith.

The message here is 'selling your possessions' really means giving up everything (not just possessions but free time, comfort, friendships, etc.) to do the the right thing, golden rule, etc. I'm not saying any of us necessarily should...but that's what its about.

I took a Stanley Kaplin course to pass an MBA entrance test. I first took an example test in the SK course and got blown out. I took it again and did worse. I panicked and worked harder. The last example test I took before the real test - I barely got a passing grade. So when I went to take the real MBA entrance test - it was super easy and I blew it away. I had the option of getting into any college because of it.

Jesus also sets the bar super high - probably higher than anyone can reach. And because of that...its not black or white if we are great or terrible for actually giving away all we possess. Let's just work in that direction of making some sacrifices - that's an improvement and if we're motivated, it can be a big improvement. Its one approach to motivate us to do the best we can.
 
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"The main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing."- Mr. Noling, my high school government teacher

"Saturday night is when you sin, and Sunday is when you regret."- Adam Duritz, lead singer of the Counting Crows

Now I see how endurance became religion for me. I stopped attending church, neglected my support system, got so caught up in training that it became obsession, a chore... instead of sweet release. I lost sight of the main thing. Physical problems are the price I paid for this obsession, including sciatica and ankles that hurt every so often. Not to mention loneliness because I was busy with racing that I forgot about everything else.
 
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