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Religion Thread: That's Me In the Corner...

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We don't know this for a fact. I would not be surprised if it turns out that Trump is flat broke and just donor check kiting across the abyss.

It's likely that he's refusing to release his tax returns because it'll show his income to be much lower than he claims.
 
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We don't know this for a fact. I would not be surprised if it turns out that Trump is flat broke and just donor check kiting across the abyss.

Nah, he is going to sue everyone!!1!11!!! and that will plump up his purse
 
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(Shamelessly stolen from myself in other thread)

Clinton campaign officials really, seriously talked about infiltrating the Catholic Church and attempting to create a "Catholic Spring" uprising?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...oman-joking-about-catholics-and-evangelicals/

How soon they forget that since the dawn of the current era the most powerful espionage network mankind has known is the Catholic Church. Those with the human intelligence have the inside lane. You really don't want to mess with that organization. The old boys in beanies and red robes like their cushy, soft gig; try to screw that up and they come back at you (with the fervor of a religious zealot). Many have tried to take them down; you can read about all of them and their failures in the history books in the Vatican archives. ;)
 
(Shamelessly stolen from myself in other thread)

Clinton campaign officials really, seriously talked about infiltrating the Catholic Church and attempting to create a "Catholic Spring" uprising?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...oman-joking-about-catholics-and-evangelicals/

How soon they forget that since the dawn of the current era the most powerful espionage network mankind has known is the Catholic Church. Those with the human intelligence have the inside lane. You really don't want to mess with that organization. The old boys in beanies and red robes like their cushy, soft gig; try to screw that up and they come back at you (with the fervor of a religious zealot). Many have tried to take them down; you can read about all of them and their failures in the history books in the Vatican archives. ;)

Or, nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!! :)
 
Re: Religion Thread: That's Me In the Corner...

(Shamelessly stolen from myself in other thread)

Clinton campaign officials really, seriously talked about infiltrating the Catholic Church and attempting to create a "Catholic Spring" uprising?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...oman-joking-about-catholics-and-evangelicals/

How soon they forget that since the dawn of the current era the most powerful espionage network mankind has known is the Catholic Church. Those with the human intelligence have the inside lane. You really don't want to mess with that organization. The old boys in beanies and red robes like their cushy, soft gig; try to screw that up and they come back at you (with the fervor of a religious zealot). Many have tried to take them down; you can read about all of them and their failures in the history books in the Vatican archives. ;)

Never get involved in a land war in Asia, and never go up against Opus Dei when death is on the line.
 
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It continues to surprise me the way that churches (plural) are handling what is playing out in the political arena. As a non-Catholic in a very Catholic area I have no wish for the Catholic Church to have a say/control/influence on government. I can respect if they say what they believe is correct and explain why I should think this way. I do not like pushing the Church agenda being part of policy. This goes for all of the big churches that are weighing in on what they want to gain in the election. Church and State are separate for a reason. GO to different parts of the country and you get different views on what the right moral stance is.
If one Church's beliefs are espoused the other Churches howl foul. What if the majority of an area are Jewish? Muslim? Baptist?

More than that I am distressed that I hear various Church leaders speaking out to tell me that I need to look past the abhorent behavior because the end prize is a person who will forward their Church's beliefs. The other day I heard an Evangelical leader saying people needed to vote Trump because they needed the Supreme court to do what they wanted. He then tried to explain why what we were hearing and seeing wasn't that bad. Bleck. My Christian self wonders what God thinks of this and how on earth people can justify it. If you trust in God to be the final say why would you embrace such horrible behavior (both sides) in an effort to get what you think you should have? Do you not trust God to handle it?
 
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Eh. I get the vibe he'd be OK with the system, provided he and the Church leaders were the policy-setting class of "elitists" he laments.

Hmm... I picked up a different message. I thought he was saying that "the system" itself was the problem, because it constantly demands that each person subsume their own moral authority to do what is right in the eyes of their Deity to a secular state that insists it be in charge of every element of our daily lives, including parenting.

The state is the ultimate authority and arbiter in "the system." it is never wrong, by definition. that is the crux of the problem and challenge we now face: does an individual still have a right to acts of conscience? or is the state always right in every situation?
 
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I'm surprised. It's November and I haven't heard a peep about the supposed "War on Christmas" yet.
 
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The part that makes that claim unbelievable is that she's a teenager saying something. Whatever came next was bound to be a lie.
 
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The faithful, and others, come together in the gathering space, lit by soft lights powered by renewable resources. Any offensive imagery should be removed. Okay, let’s face it, the walls should be bare, but unobtrusive lest those offended by bare walls get stressed out.

Okay, maybe we should do this in a park somewhere. But not a park named after a civil war general, or slave owner, or heteronormative cisgender patriarchial oppressor.

Okay, we’re gathering in Judy’s apartment complex community room.

Softly lit soy candles are held aloft in the cardinal directions by the Sisters Servant of Jesus the Revolutionary, newly back from their bus tour. Ursapupifers hand out stuffed bears (made by undocumented immigrants being paid a just wage under old-growth redwoods and using all natural fabrics). The gathered community can begin softly signing any hymn from the Cure’s 1989 album “Disintegration.”

Leader of Prayer: I apologize for being the leader, and acknowledge the leadership in all of you.

Community: We affirm your discomfort at leadership, and beg the pardon of all those offended by hierarchy.

Leader of Prayer pinning a safety pin on his/her sweater vest: I proclaim this to be a safe space and invite you all to safety and trust. They all ensafetypin themselves.

Commissioned Agitator: O God, or whoever, or whatever: deign in your mercy to hear the cries of your people – wounded, hurt, destroyed, demolish, brought down low, despair, crying, angered, irritated, annoyed, vexed, bothered, mildly displeased, anguished, oppressed, confused, down trodden, misgendered, mispronounced, miffed, freaking out – hear our cries and our unreasonable demands. Make it stop. May the shade-grown vanilla soy latte of your countenance pour forth and scald the mean people that have done this to us, while bringing us half-caffeinated and gluten-free enjoyment.

Community: Amen (and Awomen, and Anon-binarygendered).

Reader: A reading from the Apocalypse according to van Jones

I’m so mad. I think this should give us a lot of empathy for the kids in Syria and other wartorn countries who want to get away from crazy and to come here. The fact that someone said mean things was able to become president traumatized a whole generation of children. No building got blown up next to them. They didn’t see their dad get torn apart in a car bomb. Just one mean person saying mean things, being put in a position of power, traumatized half a generation of kids.”

Community: Yes, we are terrified. You shall know us by the browning of our pants on that sad day. Ooooo, people who disagree with us are scary.

A moment of silence as teddy bears are hugged. Appropriate touches may be given, after proof of signed consent is provided.

Commissioned Agitator: Will the genderless professor of multicultural, multiethnic, multilateral, multisexed, multidimensional transnuminous studies come forward for the inexhaustible litany of pronouns.

The community sits. This is gonna take… awhile.

Leader of Prayer: Let us now share in the community cake, which was baked by a conservative Christian baker (the crowd shudders and moans in unison) who made this celebratory cake in protest under fear of being shut down and sued (crowd lets out a muffled, hooray!).

Commissioned Agitator: Father… Mister… Othered Roy Bourgeois will now unfurl an inexplicable banner demonstrating the offense we feel at how other people having been poopy-heads. Will the assigned assistant unfurlers come forward.

They unfurl. Then refurl.

Leader of Prayer: Please stand for our litany of grievances. Your response is, “I just can’t even.”

L: Dude, we so thought we had this election in the bag.
C: I just can’t even.

L: I mean, he’s gonna be the President. That’s so freaking bizarre.
C: I just can’t even.

L: I hear he’s already opening concentration camps for minorities and that he bathes daily in the blood of bludgeoned baby seals.
C: I just can’t even.

L: We might have to get jobs!
C: I just can’t even.

L: Dude, I can’t afford to pay for my girlfriend’s birth control, let along her girlfriend’s gender reassignment surgery!
C: I just can’t even.

L: I know that pot’s been legalized just about everywhere, but is there really enough weed to get us through the next four years?
C: I just can’t even.

L: And what if he’s elected and is president for eight years?
C: I JUST CAN’T EVEN.

Commissioned Agitator: Let the biodegradable tissues be handed out.

Leader of Prayer: Please turn and affirm one another in our okayness. You may exit through the back doors, or the windows, or into the next dimension through a time-space portal. Or stay here. I really have no power to force you to do anything.

Commissioned Agitator: Let the community gather again tomorrow night for more prayer and healing, except those who have jobs.

Community: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. See you tomorrow!


Did I mention I like satire?
(Thanks to the uncle of Gophers #20)
 
Re: Religion Thread: That's Me In the Corner...

Did I mention I like satire?

Did I mention conservatives can't do humor.* ;)

Also, the album you're looking for is The Head on the Door.


* There is an exception and if you haven't read it you should. I think you will see the difference.
 
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