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Religion: Communion Toast Crunch

FadeToBlack&Gold said:
TBH, hopefully it won't be one of the African bishops, as they're pretty much all conservadolts on human sexuality. They don't actually want to do anything about the AIDS epidemic because it gives them a convenient "divine punishment" for sex outside of marriage. Given than humans will have sex anyway (and they will since it's a primal need), what's the greater immorality - preventing unwanted conception before it even happens (thus no dreaded abortion), or potentially spreading AIDS and other STDs? I know the answer, the church just refuses to accept that there is no evil whatsoever, and in fact quite a bit of good in using contraception. And that, as much as any other reason, is why I renounced the RCC in my 20s. Its Puritanical idea of morality is black & white, it accepts no grey, and its one-sided blame of and hatred for women who don't shut up and play incestuous "boy mom" for some chud's spawn is abhorent.
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After the 5 full minutes of Googling that makes me an expert, I think that one of them is a critic of the crazy Africa laws against LGBT. Turkson apparently started out as a derp and got civilized rubbing shoulders with the Europeans.
 
Kepler said:
Even by religious standards, even by American religious standards, just wow.
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Chad was an apocalyptic author and publisher who claimed to have visions of the future, lived through multiple past lives, and prophesied the world would end in July 2020. Lori had come to share his fringe beliefs; she became convinced that she was a deity destined to play a role in the coming apocalypse and that her family was getting in the way of her mission.
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So...who was the grifter and who was the schizophrenic? Or por qué no los dos?
 
Living in Idaho, that has been a major topic of conversation here since the news of it all first broke. Combined with the quadruple murders at the University of Idaho in 2022 and its been an eventful couple of years. The trial for the UI murders is expected to start in August.
 
It's true that the USCCB and Frank did not play nice. However, the US still has more than twice as many Protestants as it does Catholics. Also, back in Catholic high school, I had a teacher/priest opine at the time of the conclave that elected Benedict, that it was likely there would never be an American pope as long as the US remained a superpower.
 
FadeToBlack&Gold said:
It's true that the USCCB and Frank did not play nice. However, the US still has more than twice as many Protestants as it does Catholics. Also, back in Catholic high school, I had a teacher/priest opine at the time of the conclave that elected Benedict, that it was likely there would never be an American pope as long as the US remained a superpower.
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Did we just stumble on to the actual reason the religious right is voting for that orange turd?
 
FadeToBlack&Gold said:
It's true that the USCCB and Frank did not play nice. However, the US still has more than twice as many Protestants as it does Catholics. Also, back in Catholic high school, I had a teacher/priest opine at the time of the conclave that elected Benedict, that it was likely there would never be an American pope as long as the US remained a superpower.
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That is probably true, and probably for the best.
 
That's one less thing to worry about.

The Italian cardinal at the heart of the Vatican’s “trial of the century” announced Tuesday he was withdrawing from participating in the upcoming conclave to elect a new pope for “the good of the church,” ending days of drama that had overshadowed the proceedings.

Cardinal Angelo Becciu’ s status has dominated discussions in the days after Pope Francis’ death amid questions about whether he would participate in the conclave to elect Francis’ successor or not.

After his 2020 downfall, Becciu had said he would not participate in any future conclave. But in recent days he had asserted he had a right to enter the Sistine Chapel with other cardinals on May 7.

On Tuesday, the 76-year-old Italian issued a statement through his lawyers that said: “Having at heart the good of the church, which I have served and will continue to serve with fidelity and love, as well as to contribute to the communion and serenity of the conclave, I have decided to obey as I have always done the will of Pope Francis not to enter the conclave while remaining convinced of my innocence.”


Becciu was once an influential Vatican chief of staff who was a leading papal contender himself. But he fell from grace in 2020 when Francis forced him to resign his job as head of the Vatican’s saint-making office and his rights as a cardinal because of allegations of financial misconduct.
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For once, not a rapist. Just a garden variety white collar criminal.

The case - the first of a Cardinal standing trial in a Vatican court - was the stuff of intrigue and skulduggery. It involved allegations of financial impropriety at the top of the Vatican, cloak-and-dagger activity of the kind that has often characterised the secretive world of the Holy See.
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It centred around a building not in the Vatican, or even in Rome, but a thousand kilometres away in London - 60 Sloane Avenue in affluent Chelsea, a former warehouse belonging to the department store Harrod's.
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In 2014, the Vatican spent more than €200m ($220m; £170m) acquiring a 45% stake in the building, which was planned to be converted into luxury apartments. By 2018, the Vatican's Secretariat of State had decided to buy the property outright, sinking a further €150m euros into the purchase. Allegedly signing off on the whole deal was Cardinal Becciu, who was at the time the Vatican's Substitute for General Affairs - in effect chief of staff to the Pope.
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The money, part of which was intended to be used for charitable works, had been paid into a trust run by a London-based Italian financier Raffaele Mincione, who orchestrated the purchase. When the Secretariat later sought financial help from the Vatican's own bank, it sparked concern - and a raid by Vatican police that led to the charges against Becciu, Mincione, and eight others.
But the investigation into Becciu's affairs wasn't limited to the London property deal.
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The cardinal was also accused of funnelling vast sums of money to his home diocese of Sardinia, some of which reportedly benefited his family. And it was alleged he paid almost €600,000 to another of the accused, Cecilia Marogna, to help free a nun kidnapped in Mali. Prosecutors said she instead spent much of the money on luxury goods and holidays. Marogna, who had offered her services to the Vatican as an intelligence expert, visited Becciu's residence on several occasions.
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