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Quinnipiac Bobcats 2018 Off-Season

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MarkEagleUSA said:
I'm not arguing that at all. Just pointing out we've been down this road before. As long as we've got decent recruits ready, the number lost doesn't matter.
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What they are bringing in trumps what they are losing by a wide margin.
 
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QUAlum2004 said:
Trust me they need to clear out some of the players they have on the roster currently. They just really can't play. While this is still NCAA hockey at times you have to run this as a business because hockey is a money making sport at Quinnipiac and these cuts are a business decision.
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You also have to clear out kids that didn't buy into the culture. It seemed at times like there was very little buy in last year. Here's the deal: If you don't want to play here, no one's forcing you to.
 
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QUAlum2004 said:
What they are bringing in trumps what they are losing by a wide margin.
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That's good to hear. Rand's been at QU long enough that I trust him and his staff to bring in kids that will be ready to help lead us back to where we want to be.
 
ZYanksRule said:
You also have to clear out kids that didn't buy into the culture. It seemed at times like there was very little buy in last year. Here's the deal: If you don't want to play here, no one's forcing you to.
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That was started by getting rid of Aldworth and mick. The recent ones are just players that aren't talented enough to play at the D1 level.
 
QUAlum2004 said:
That was started by getting rid of Aldworth and mick. The recent ones are just players that aren't talented enough to play at the D1 level.
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QUAlum, excuse my ignorance on the subject, comparing the way Yale only brings in the bare minimum of recruits needed and the way many of the Hockey East teams stockpile recruits. Is the difference caused by Ivy League rules? Or is it variable from team to team? I would assume that admissions difficulty may hamstring the talent pool for Ivies as well. I am no recruiting expert and thought you might know the reason(s), thanks.
 
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LTsatch said:
QUAlum, excuse my ignorance on the subject, comparing the way Yale only brings in the bare minimum of recruits needed and the way many of the Hockey East teams stockpile recruits. Is the difference caused by Ivy League rules? Or is it variable from team to team? I would assume that admissions difficulty may hamstring the talent pool for Ivies as well. I am no recruiting expert and thought you might know the reason(s), thanks.
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I wouldn't say its the Ivy League rules at all. varies from team to team. Harvard stockpiles recruits knowingly that some of them aren't going to get into Harvard aka Bode Wilde and Oliver Wahlstrom. None of the other Ivies do what Harvard is doing.
 
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QUAlum2004 said:
Trust me they need to clear out some of the players they have on the roster currently. They just really can't play. While this is still NCAA hockey at times you have to run this as a business because hockey is a money making sport at Quinnipiac and these cuts are a business decision.
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This has caught my attention! Mind you, this is from the outside looking in and a high-level view...this situation does not sound or optically look good. You mean to tell me you would cut loose these players that in your words "can't play" after your staff recruited these guys; it's not like there was a coaching change. If that's the case culpability certainly lies with the scouting staff recruiters and some extent the players as they didn't pan out. This can only hurt future recruiting efforts with a credibility issue as now a prospect recruit can imagine that this can happen to them. While the education aspect is a whole other subject.
 
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McMaster continues to impress, a goal and an assist in Utica's 5-2 victory over Toronto last night. Four points in four games in the playoffs, he's becoming a star.
 
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BIG Green said:
This has caught my attention! Mind you, this is from the outside looking in and a high-level view...this situation does not sound or optically look good. You mean to tell me you would cut loose these players that in your words "can't play" after your staff recruited these guys; it's not like there was a coaching change. If that's the case culpability certainly lies with the scouting staff recruiters and some extent the players as they didn't pan out. This can only hurt future recruiting efforts with a credibility issue as now a prospect recruit can imagine that this can happen to them. While the education aspect is a whole other subject.
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It won't hurt recruiting at all. Quinnipiac honored the commitments to these players to come in as freshman when most bigger schools would have dropped them prior to that with how average they were in juniors. You have to remember these are 1 year contracts these players are on and the coaching staff especially at Quinnipiac needs to treat this like a business. When you have your first losing season in 22 years and have missed the NCAA tournament in the past two you just can't sit back and have dead weight on the roster. They whiffed on these guys. Happens to every team and at least I am happy that Quinnipiac is doing something about it.
 
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QUAlum2004 said:
It won't hurt recruiting at all. Quinnipiac honored the commitments to these players to come in as freshman when most bigger schools would have dropped them prior to that with how average they were in juniors. You have to remember these are 1 year contracts these players are on and the coaching staff especially at Quinnipiac needs to treat this like a business. When you have your first losing season in 22 years and have missed the NCAA tournament in the past two you just can't sit back and have dead weight on the roster. They whiffed on these guys. Happens to every team and at least I am happy that Quinnipiac is doing something about it.
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Fair enough! I am no so sure that it will not impact recruiting slightly. While Q honoring their commitment on a year by year status is honorable, that still does solve the idea about being "cut" or "mutually agreed" to leave where they are now like free agents and looking for a transfer. This would be akin to Q retracting a verbal commitment; word gets out and recruits have that to factor that in, ala Miami of OH and WI years back. Actually in retrospect, a prospect recruit would probably rather have the de-commitment before he enrolls therefore saving face of a failure once he got there. Look, I understand it is a dog eat dog, survival of the fittest world and as you say "hockey business"but to me this falls squarely on the face of the scouts/staff. A possible solution would be to "commit" much later in juniors (I know the pool dries up for which I say there is plenty especially late-developers). With Q having one bad year, it sounds like you are frantic and in panic mode instead of re-assessing and reflecting then taking action...losing the Peca's, Anas, Toews, St. Denis, Clifton bros will do it to you.
 
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BIG Green said:
Fair enough! I am no so sure that it will not impact recruiting slightly. While Q honoring their commitment on a year by year status is honorable, that still does solve the idea about being "cut" or "mutually agreed" to leave where they are now like free agents and looking for a transfer. This would be akin to Q retracting a verbal commitment; word gets out and recruits have that to factor that in, ala Miami of OH and WI years back. Actually in retrospect, a prospect recruit would probably rather have the de-commitment before he enrolls therefore saving face of a failure once he got there. Look, I understand it is a dog eat dog, survival of the fittest world and as you say "hockey business"but to me this falls squarely on the face of the scouts/staff. A possible solution would be to "commit" much later in juniors (I know the pool dries up for which I say there is plenty especially late-developers). With Q having one bad year, it sounds like you are frantic and in panic mode instead of re-assessing and reflecting then taking action...losing the Peca's, Anas, Toews, St. Denis, Clifton bros will do it to you.
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You need to factor in that incoming recruits don't always live up to the hype. These kids are recruited 2, 3, 4 yrs out and things change by the time they get on campus. The biggest problem possibly isn't even talent, but buy-in to the culture and systems. If the heart and desire isn't there, the talent level doesn't matter. And sometimes kids just don't fit in.

I'm not sure this is as bad as it sounds regarding the Bobcats, and I'm sure it happens everywhere to some extent. MacMaster, Smith, Duane, and Fortunato were all cast-aways from other programs.
 
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LTsatch said:
26 goals are the franchise record? Must be a new franchise. Good for Anas.
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Most players who are doing that well in the AHL don't stay in the A for long. This might be a sign that the Wild don't see Sam as someone who can help them in the NHL, otherwise he would have joined them at some point this year.
 
ZYanksRule said:
Most players who are doing that well in the AHL don't stay in the A for long. This might be a sign that the Wild don't see Sam as someone who can help them in the NHL, otherwise he would have joined them at some point this year.
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I agree with this. Kind of surprised he didn't look for a team that he could have gotten more of an NFL chance with. He should have gotten a callup and didn't this year.
 
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Just got an email that UConn Season Tix are on sale. Anybody remember when we get our notification? Is it October yet?
 
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Maybe they could use him tonight :eek: My B's need to play a lot better tonight.
 
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sshablak said:
Maybe they could use him tonight :eek: My B's need to play a lot better tonight.
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Unfortunately I don't think he's eligible...

I agree that the Bruin's need to get their heads out of their ***** and play hockey tonight. Marchand needs to stop trying to draw penalties and start burying the biscuit, and Rask needs to stand on his head (or sit on the bench).
 
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