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Providence College on the road to Tampa

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Friars did get the plus side of the penalty calls although I didn't think the ND penalties in the third were bad calls, just bad plays by ND players.

Personally, I thought the Friars took it to ND all night right from the beginning, but I must not have those keen eyes as the Zlax man..;)
 
dillon said:
My Bunyon comment was more of a general anti-Bunyon observation that can be applied to any game he refs.
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At least by Scott Hansen and Bunyon's standards I thought they called a good game, let the players play, good flow, had control of game and if not for the need to review those 2 goals you wouldn't have known they were there. First a great contrast to the horrible game Gravellese and Benedetto called vs UConn last Friday where they call 16 penalties (with 2 game misconducts) which killed the flow (also note the next night in game 2, usually the more physical game of a series there were just 7 minors. Gravelese has become the reincarnation of Steve McBride who is too slow now for the game. Second, the first goal did look offside to me. That missed call is on the linesman, would have been better to blow whistle late then hope nothing happened and play continue. Point also I believe they went into the review knowing they blew the call but with minimal footage of the line crossing were desperately looking for something which is why all 4 officials were watching the review in the end. My guess that ended up being what your gut told you not film. Which is part of the issue with goal reviews, if the puck is in its a good goal, then they decide working backwards if they allow the goal. I think sometimes they might make the call similar to baseball calls in question but not reviewable, by umpire consensus Last the last 14 minutes was Pooleyesque in reverse....3 late goals to throw away a wind highlighted by 3 unnecessary penalties (roughing, cross checking and high sticking) while giving up 3,goals
 
73PCFriar said:
Friars did get the plus side of the penalty calls although I didn't think the ND penalties in the third were bad calls, just bad plays by ND players.

Personally, I thought the Friars took it to ND all night right from the beginning, but I must not have those keen eyes as the Zlax man..;)
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To your first point. Jackson complained about that, however ND's style whether its Jackson's call or Pooley's style is to play defensive hockey and protect the lead. For 9 years we saw this Pooley style of playing not to tie when you hold a late lead. Inevitably you took penalties for being overly physical in playing your back in style. Let's face it we outshot them badly but most were not grade A and if they were in close they were draped on the PC player, eg. Rooney's break in in the 2nd, defenseman made it harmless shot but to do so he hooked him. Typical of our defense in the Pooley era (bet Benedetto brings a back up whistle to the ND games he does). When you are playing back not to lose and the other team brings it at you full force you are going to take penalties.

Point 2. I thought too even early PC came at ND hard. However I thought ND came out so too. ND was not going to just let us dominate. Shots were pretty much even through their first goal, then they went into that defensive shell and it became obvious were dominated possession. Also keep in mind that PC had to revamp their defense losing Walman so early. That may have played a role as you got your 5 man rotation in order. That also may be why to Zlax's point on Desharnais. He got an extra 5 to 8 minutes of ice time that Walman would have logged and at more critical times then his normal minutes would have come
 
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cavbim said:
To your first point. Jackson complained about that, however ND's style whether its Jackson's call or Pooley's style is to play defensive hockey and protect the lead. For 9 years we saw this Pooley style of playing not to tie when you hold a late lead. Inevitably you took penalties for being overly physical in playing your back in style. Let's face it we outshot them badly but most were not grade A and if they were in close they were draped on the PC player, eg. Rooney's break in in the 2nd, defenseman made it harmless shot but to do so he hooked him. Typical of our defense in the Pooley era (bet Benedetto brings a back up whistle to the ND games he does). When you are playing back not to lose and the other team brings it at you full force you are going to take penalties.

Point 2. I thought too even early PC came at ND hard. However I thought ND came out so too. ND was not going to just let us dominate. Shots were pretty much even through their first goal, then they went into that defensive shell and it became obvious were dominated possession. Also keep in mind that PC had to revamp their defense losing Walman so early. That may have played a role as you got your 5 man rotation in order. That also may be why to Zlax's point on Desharnais. He got an extra 5 to 8 minutes of ice time that Walman would have logged and at more critical times then his normal minutes would have come
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There is no excuse for Notre Dame to play that style they do...They have some elite scorers at the international level like Bjork, DiPauli, and Lucia. I think I saw Minnesota's Lucia there at the game last night watching his kid.
 
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Other thing from the game, Leaman stated postgame that he thought the ND goalie played well. I thought PC's offense made it very easy on him missing the net on high quality shooting areas and having shots blocked. I wouldn't say the ND goalie made any Grade A stops last night.
 
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Another thing to take from this game is this team can play and beat good teams without Walman, I do like our game a lot more when Jake is in there but as a team they have to believe they can win without him and this game is proof
 
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Hey if any of you losers have a date that backs out tonight, I'm available. :p

Got back from the Dude Ranch early. Yes, you read that right. So if you have one or two tickets to sell for tonight then let me know. :)
 
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PC91 said:
Hey if any of you losers have a date that backs out tonight, I'm available. :p

Got back from the Dude Ranch early. Yes, you read that right. So if you have one or two tickets to sell for tonight then let me know. :)
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Just show up...someone will have to give you a ticket
 
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3-1 and a bye, great weekend for the Friars, now they know how good they are
 
satking said:
He will post as soon as he finishes telling Nate what he thought of the game !!!!!
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Much better tonight by Desharnis and Ruggiero should be a top 6 d next season,

I don't know if there is a better option but McPhee was awful and throughout the year hasn't been good.
 
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Any updates on Walman ?? My guess is he is out until the NCAAs or maybe the last HE tourney game (mid March) give the shoulder plenty of time to heal
 
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satking said:
Any updates on Walman ?? My guess is he is out until the NCAAs or maybe the last HE tourney game (mid March) give the shoulder plenty of time to heal
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That's probably a good idea--we don't need him against UMass. The bye week will help too.
 
PcFriars13 said:
That's probably a good idea--we don't need him against UMass. The bye week will help too.
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I give him off the Quarters too. Gives him a month to get back. If PC can't win a quarterfinal series, they are still going to get in the NCAA tourney barring some sort of crazy PWR stuff.
 
The Zlax45 said:
I give him off the Quarters too. Gives him a month to get back. If PC can't win a quarterfinal series, they are still going to get in the NCAA tourney barring some sort of crazy PWR stuff.
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The Zlax45 said:
I give him off the Quarters too. Gives him a month to get back. If PC can't win a quarterfinal series, they are still going to get in the NCAA tourney barring some sort of crazy PWR stuff.
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I think Saty's more pessimistic guess is accurate. While it has not been tested yet I heard its a reoccurrence of the original injury. Assuming that does not make this worse that one was 5 weeks, which is opening round

I also agree with Zlax it would take real crazy stuff for us not to make NCAA. Saw somewhere since 16 teams go to NCAA that any team in the top 5 PWR has always made the tourney. We were and we won our 4 games since including our sweep of a top 10 team. We are also positioned well to lock down second since we own TB vs ND. All it takes is a combo of us winning 2 of 4 points vs Mass or ND dropping 2 points to BU
 
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This is probably an ideal weekend for Walman to be out (if such a thing is possible). UMASS is capable of beating us, but we should still probably sweep. We aren't going to beat out BC for 1st (unless UML pulls off a miracle and takes 3-4 points), but keep winning and put the pressure on and pray we don't draw UNH yet again.
 
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