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Providence College 2010-2011 - Things are looking up.

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Also of note the welfare check should be on the way soon. With 11 Big East teams in the tournament PC will be getting a decent revenue sharing check from the league soon.. There is a reason I think they are the Pirates of College sports.:eek:
 
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You guys should truly be interested in Mike Cavanuagh for this job. It's not that I want him to leave BC, he would just be a great head coach.

It wouldn't be a permanent solution because he is pretty much the next head coach at BC. ;)
 
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I would certainly discount your criticism of him for his time at PC for two reasons.
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I wasn't criticizing him, or I certainly did not mean to. I was saying if you're going to applaud his work at Union, you've also got to mention he was also here for 5 years, which most people have not bothered to mention. I'm not saying he's responsible for the success or lack thereof in either case per se.

Hey if he's the "hot guy," and people are high on him, go for it. They've been down this road before, and I fully admit I might be delusional. If all they can hope to land is another former assistant who's never been a head coach before and roll the dice, then that's how it is. Hopefully he actually has a good relationship with players and gets along, which I would think needs to be paramount in the next hiring. The part about him being a former Hobey Baker candidate and All-American....PC's last two coaches had both of those credentials going for them, and look how that paid off.
 
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HockeyMan2000 said:
I wasn't criticizing him so much as saying if you're going to applaud his work at Union, you've also got to mention he was also here for 5 years, which most people have not bothered to mention. I'm not saying he's responsible for the success in either case per se.

Hey if he's the "hot guy," go for it. They've been down this road before, and I fully admit I might be delusional. If all they can hope to land is another former assistant who's never been a head coach before and roll the dice, then that's how it is. Hopefully he actually has a good relationship with players and gets along -- the part about him being a former Hobey Baker candidate and All-American....so were PC's last two coaches, and look how that paid off.
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So HockeyMan,
What current Division I head coaches do you believe would be interested in the Providence job that are successful and desirable?
 
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HockeyMan2000 said:
Bennett was already an assistant here for 5 years. I'm not saying he may not do a good job -- but if you want to talk about what he did at Union as an assistant, why not mention what he didn't do here as an assistant coach?

Just sayin' it's a two way street... :cool:
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true, but hands were tied at PC. Is number one guy at Union and lead recruiter. It is safe to say he has proven his worth ina difficult environment. Look at Dennehy, he was something like 1-27 at D 1 Fairfield and the program dropped under his leadership. That was his only other head job. Thank God someone gave him another shot.
 
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Hokydad said:
true, but hands were tied at PC. Is number one guy at Union and lead recruiter. It is safe to say he has proven his worth ina difficult environment. Look at Dennehy, he was something like 1-27 at D 1 Fairfield and the program dropped under his leadership. That was his only other head job. Thank God someone gave him another shot.
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I fully realize that. You guys may be right on Bennett, I'm just -- sorry -- a bit more cynical and skeptical after the last 2 hires, who were also ex-players that were all-American Hobey Baker hopefuls who had never been head coaches before. Bennett is roughly the same age as Army and Pooley when they were hired and fits much of the same profile...so forgive me for being hesitant on pulling the trigger because it feels like deja vu. And yet another ex-PC guy? We just had a coach who supposedly had the "ultimate understanding of PC and its culture" and it provided no tangible benefits whatsoever. I'd rather have someone from the outside with some fresh ideas but apparently that's asking too much (and again, you're probably right about that).

I'm also not as bowled over by Union's success as some are (they couldn't get past a 9-25 Colgate team this past weekend in a best-of-3 and didn't play so much as 1 game against a Hockey East opponent all season), especially given the conference they're in, but I concede that you guys may be right, and this IS the best they can hope for. Certainly Union has turned things around in a rapid amount of time, even if it's in the ECAC, and if you guys are right about Bennett and a lot of it is his doing, that's totally in his favor too.

I just need to be "sold" more that he can actually do the job in Hockey East and can bring what neither of his predecessors did to the position...the last 15 years have taken its toll on me lol.
 
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HockeyMan2000,
You left the negative rep telling me I was a fool for saying that no desirable and successful D1 head coach would want the job at PC. So tell me, which current D1 head coaches who are successful would want the PC job?
 
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Hockey East had their worst winning pct vs ECAC in 13 years. Union was 17-3-3 in ECAC play.

ECAC wil have at least as many and maybe more in NCAA tournament.

One other very strong suit of Bennetts is that he is a hard core, discipline type but very well respected by his players.
 
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Hokydad said:
Hockey East had their worst winning pct vs ECAC in 13 years. Union was 17-3-3 in ECAC play.

ECAC wil have at least as many and maybe more in NCAA tournament.

One other very strong suit of Bennetts is that he is a hard core, discipline type but very well respected by his players.
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Agree very much. Providence has a much better list of former assistants and players who could come back to lead the program than many schools when searching for a new HC.

I think a lot of the problems with HE can be attributed to what you hear a lot for college basektball during March Madness. Some of the smaller schools like Butler who have good team players who stay all four years can cause some serious damage. HE has a lot of solid players who leave early. Maine will take a huge hit next year without Nyquist and Flynn along with the seniors who've left. BU took a hit this year b/c no Wilson, Shattenkirk, Cohen, Bonino. MC will take a hit next year without Da Costa and Cannata and possibly Todd. Minnesota has had a tough go of it lately too with losing a lot of their top players. I'd say the ECAC has less of an issue with players leaving early.
 
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I was told that Lucia may be on the way to unemployment

irishfan85 said:
HockeyMan2000,
You left the negative rep telling me I was a fool for saying that no desirable and successful D1 head coach would want the job at PC. So tell me, which current D1 head coaches who are successful would want the PC job?
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Actually, I've spoken with parents and others who say that the kids love playing for Rick Bennett and that he is a tireless recruiter. I've met him only a few times and he seems like a real gentleman. As posted here earlier, I hope he stays at Union, especially if we're looking to replace Nate Leaman soon which is a distinct possibility. However, he could be just what the doctor ordered, especially as he may not be looking at PC as a stepping stone but as home and where he really wants to be..just saying.
 
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Hokydad said:
Hockey East had their worst winning pct vs ECAC in 13 years. Union was 17-3-3 in ECAC play.

ECAC wil have at least as many and maybe more in NCAA tournament.
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That's fine and good for the regular season, but I'll put stock in those numbers when the ECAC actually WINS something in the NCAA tournament.

Union did beat Minnesota (who had a mediocre season ultimately) in the Mariucci Classic but, otherwise, their out of conference schedule was, honestly, a little bit light. Would it have killed them to play one game -- just one -- against a good Hockey East team? Or ANY Hockey East team? The fact they got bounced by Colgate is not the sign of a powerhouse team on the level of BC, North Dakota, etc. even though they have been ranked nationally as if they are.

Again, if they show up in the NCAAs and make the Frozen Four, I'll be happy for 'em (and I'll going to be rooting for them), but I'm still suspicious of how good they actually are.

One other very strong suit of Bennetts is that he is a hard core, discipline type but very well respected by his players.
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That, I agree, is a big-time plus for him if it's accurate, and I see a lot of confidence in his camp, which is good.

Again, I concede that you guys may be right, and Bennett might be the best guy. And it's also true this is the situation PC is in, as Cav said, so...if he can do the job, go for it and I hope it works out. It's just they will be going down a very similar road to what they were just on.
 
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Wholin1 said:
Actually, I've spoken with parents and others who say that the kids love playing for Rick Bennett and that he is a tireless recruiter. I've met him only a few times and he seems like a real gentleman. As posted here earlier, I hope he stays at Union, especially if we're looking to replace Nate Leaman soon which is a distinct possibility. However, he could be just what the doctor ordered, especially as he may not be looking at PC as a stepping stone but as home and where he really wants to be..just saying.
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I like reading that parents love playing for the guy. PC didn't have that with either of their prior coaches (especially Pooley), so that would be a welcome change ;)
 
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Hokydad said:
One other very strong suit of Bennetts is that he is a hard core, discipline type but very well respected by his players.
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I also suspect he will go bigger and have a more aggressive style on the ice
 
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cavbim said:
I also suspect he will go bigger and have a more aggressive style on the ice
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Something that would be much needed. I never understood Army's theory of going small and fast playing in a rink like Schneider. It basically negated one of the only advantages PC has playing at home.
 
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satyking said:
Are you getting ready for your annual choke
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already started last weekend when they handed BC reg season title on UNH's ice

couple that with the fact they had a nice lead i standings and could only win 2 of last 8and the party is on.
 
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Hokydad said:
already started last weekend when they handed BC reg season title on UNH's ice

couple that with the fact they had a nice lead i standings and could only win 2 of last 8and the party is on.
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Stop posting here. You are a dope.
Your run on sentences are fun to laugh at and all but the fact that you are functionally illiterate is beyond pathetic!

I know why you love following college hockey so much. The leagues are consisted of young men which is like Christmas morning to a pedophile like you and it's the closest that a dope like you will ever get to college.

I'm sure the Merrimack fans are missing your cheerleading Hokydope. We'll call you when you are needed back in our village.
 
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Hokydad said:
ECAC wil have at least as many and maybe more in NCAA tournament.
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You are so full of crap. If you were ever right then people might respect your opinion but you are a tool who pulls stuff out of his arse both on line and in your personal life!!!

The ECAC will not have more teams in the tourney than HE you moron.
 
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Not go back to hoops for a moment but the faster they hire someone, the faster hockey will get the attention. Seems Ed Cooley (who I do like) and Jim O'Brien (ex BC and Ohio St. coach) are front runners. If O'Brien's baggage with the NCAA isn't a big deal, I think he would be a strong candidate having been successful at BC, won a Big 10 title and taken OSU to the Final Four (though of course it had to be wiped out because of the violations). He's an excellent coach with ties to the region, knows the conference and is probably looking to get back in the game...if being clean isn't going to be a problem (and there is a debate it seems over how much stuff he did), and they can pay him, I like it.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebas...-obrien-among-frontrunners-for-providence-job
 
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